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Old 12th Dec 2000, 23:43
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Wink Northwest Airline mechanics look for $56.30 an hour.

I clipped this from the Wall Street Journal a couple of weeks ago, (maybe 7 November?), and just found the clipping under a pile of junk on my desk!

As I cannot download the original copy, and I searched for the story elsewhere, and found no reference to it, I will extract the pertinent details;

Source: Wall Street Journal
By Susan Carey.
Northwest Airlines Asks Federal Judge To Bar Any Job Slowdowns By Union

"Northwest and the Union had been in contract talks for a year when the National Mediation Board early this month recessed the discussions indefinitely so that the union could reassess it's economic proposals. Northwest claims AMFA's demands in the area of pay and pensions are "wildly unrealistic" and would vault the average Northwest mechanic to an hourly rate of $56.30 from the current $26.25. The airline said it offered a 14.3% pay raise."
 
Old 13th Dec 2000, 05:25
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Go to <A HREF="http://www.amfa33.org" TARGET="_blank">www.amfa33.org</A> for your reference. The wage listed was on "opening" offer, not exactly what we will finally see when the contract is presented to us to vote on. We came into negotiations with a high wage, the company came in with a low wage, and eventually we should meet somewhere in the middle area after negotiating, if the company will stop playing games with the National Mediation Board and the court system. The company says publicly that they want to negotiate, but their actions say something different.

We are hoping to change the profession with this contract. We used to be paid more than skilled trades in other industries, but our former union let our wages slip compared to inflation. A lot of people are watching what we do.
 
Old 13th Dec 2000, 23:26
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Redtail,

I'm sure that anybody who's got great concern on our thankless profession would watch in anticipation. If it does go through, it will set a good precedence for others to follow, we hope. Goodluck to you and the boys.

Macdu

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Old 14th Dec 2000, 22:57
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Redtail, it says you have been in negotiations for 12 months now, what would be you ball park estimate of when you may get a settlement. My vested interest is we start negotiations in April, a settlement like that would give us some leverage this side of the pond.

All the very best, rough calculations would equate to £73,000 over here. That would make Christmas more bearable ! ! ! !
 
Old 15th Dec 2000, 04:11
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Actually, we have been in negotiations with the current union for about 12 months. We fired our old union after they brought us a disappointing tentative agreement after 19 months. Our current contract has been open for negotiation for four years now. My guess would be a tentative agreement being brought to us in Spring of 2001, if the company would get down to business and negotiate instead of playing games with the National Mediation Board, the Federal Courts, and the media.
Be careful about counting your chicken before they are hatched. The figures being trotted out to the press by the company are from our initial pie-in-the-sky first offer to the company. Our second offer, made before the #@$%&* National Mediation Board recessed the negotiations was down to $40USD base pay an hour, and was not our final offer for this contract. Most likely we will end up around $35USD with all the bells and whistles (license pay, shift differential, line premium, whatever). What this new union is trying to do with this contract is to get our pay back in line with what other skilled trades outside of aviation get payed for the same job skills, like it was twenty years ago. You shouldn’t have to take a pay cut to work on airplanes.
 
Old 15th Dec 2000, 04:40
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How many hours per week do you guys work redtail?
What about leave etc?
Just trying to compare "like with like".
Good luck with the pay deal.

 
Old 15th Dec 2000, 05:25
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I know what you mean, WenWe. I had a hell of a time trying to get Commonwealth type Aircraft Engineer translated to FAA A&P, so I could attempt to compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges. The engineers always ended up sounding like some kind of super-mechanic with a ton of training.

At a major US airline most workweeks are 40 hours. Either 5 days/8 hours, or 4 days/10 hours. Anything over 8 is 1.5x pay, and after 12 hours 2x pay. (10 hour days use different numbers). Working days off is 1.5x for the first 8 hours, 2x after and also for the second day or third day off (rotating day off schedules). Working holidays is 8 plus 8 for the holiday. Some shifts/operations have paid lunches. I’m not sure of leave. New hires either have 40 or 80 hours paid vacation time after their first year. I have 15 years in, and am up to 160 hours of paid leave a year, along with paid birthday and paid date-of-hire. We lost a week of vacation time when we gave concessions to bail out the company.


See also <A HREF="http://www.amfanow.org/AMT-Wage_Scales.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.amfanow.org/AMT-Wage_Scales.htm</A> for more info



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Old 16th Dec 2000, 16:19
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About to start pay negotiations here downunder and are hoping to obtain some decent pay to make up for the lean pickings organised by company orientated union officials over the last few years. I am very interested to obtain any information on worldwide rates either contract or permenant which can be used as leverage in our fight. The links posted so far have been great. I beleive we are the second lowest paid engineers worldwide behind NZ. Goodluck yankee boys.
 

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