How many Engineers contribute??
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Aussie LAME here too. I observe a lot, then log on to Pprune............ oh yea, don't mind winding up the knuckleheads too. It's Flight attendants that really get up my kangaroo though....By the way, a reference to 'shopping a collegue' is that like a UK term for shafting them? or dare I say, Rogering them????!!
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Kanga767 , I've always known the term 'shopping a colleague ' as meaning to inform on someone or ' grass ' on them but if this was quoted by a male flight attendant then there may have been some sort of sexual connotation associated with it .
If you've ever heard Julian Clarey speak you'll know what I mean!
Also the term 'shafted' is something that our management do to us frequently . It's the only thing they excel at.
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If you've ever heard Julian Clarey speak you'll know what I mean!
Also the term 'shafted' is something that our management do to us frequently . It's the only thing they excel at.
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. . .Giving the identity game away a little, I work for a company that got so paranoid about the wonderful world of Internet information, our company e mail facility was disconnected for almost 2 years ! Scared to death of the dissemination of information I guess, this makes quite a few engineers fearful of the retribution from hell from contributing regulaly on a wonderful and open forum such as pprune is . . .
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The stark reality of lack of people on the engineers page is this.Nobody gives a s**t anymore.The reason why the pilots forums are jammed packed,is due to the fact that they all have a passion for what they do.They enjoy flying.There salaries are on the whole preety good,and there life styles are on the whole good.As an engineer in aviation in this country.i am nothing but a greasy man in overalls,who works crap archaic shift patterns,with a wage packet that is absolutley crap.
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Oh dear!! Time for a change of career methinks. Is it any different elsewhere though. Yes, this industry is for the most part pretty poo, but do you think that nursing, teaching, reatail, plumbing or plastering is any better or more financially lucrative?? There is money to be made in IT but there is also money to be made in Aircraft Engineering. I do agree that blokes in overalls are downtrodden but that is only because we allow it to happen. Aircraft Engineering is the only industry I know of where rolling up for work a couple of minutes late or taking a lunch break is frowned upon. Why? Because most engineers are not bolshy enough to tell managers, 'Sorry, it's lunch time'. Be more forthright my friend, don't take the cr@p, and you'll be a lot happier within!!
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I agree there are other jobs outside aircraft engineering that are not well paid but there again shop assistants , plumbers & plasterers don't have the responsibility we have & aren't governed by legistlation equivalent to the Air Navigation Order which stipulates the penalties by means of fines and/or maximum imprisonment of 2 years should they make a serious mistake whilst carrying out their duties !
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I agree. Unfortueately this argument is never put forward within unionised airline pay negotiations etc. There is just talk of shift pay is not as good as xx, approval pay is not as good as yy, leave is not as good as zz. The fundimentals of what we do day in day out is never addressed, hence basic pay will always be poo because apart from the above reply, all pay negotiations/comment etc is just based on shift pay etc, not the real world.
