Smoke in cabin
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Smoke in cabin
Hello;
As an ARFF Fire Officer, I recently responded to an inflight emergency where the pilot of a B-727 reported an odour of burnt material. The plane landed safely. The detection of the source of the problem was lengthy but we discovered that a passenger reading plastic light cover had been glued by an airline mechanic on a previous flight. This type of plastic light covers are usually threaded. In this particular occasion it had been glued and under heat, it melted and released fumes.
I would like to ask you about your investigation techniques in relation to finding the origin of smoke (and or suspicious smell) inside the cabin ? Is it a common occurence ? Do you have a lot of burnt ballast for example ? In the case of flight SR111 the fire was located behind the ceiling pannel in the cockpit. How do you access easily the areas located behind these pannels ?
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
As an ARFF Fire Officer, I recently responded to an inflight emergency where the pilot of a B-727 reported an odour of burnt material. The plane landed safely. The detection of the source of the problem was lengthy but we discovered that a passenger reading plastic light cover had been glued by an airline mechanic on a previous flight. This type of plastic light covers are usually threaded. In this particular occasion it had been glued and under heat, it melted and released fumes.
I would like to ask you about your investigation techniques in relation to finding the origin of smoke (and or suspicious smell) inside the cabin ? Is it a common occurence ? Do you have a lot of burnt ballast for example ? In the case of flight SR111 the fire was located behind the ceiling pannel in the cockpit. How do you access easily the areas located behind these pannels ?
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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Haven't known it to happen too often but ....
Best detection tool - Mark 1 Nose. If it is burnt/overheated materials then the smell usually lingers in that vicinity.
Any circuit breakers tripped?
If not evident after the event then try to reproduce the conditions it was noticed whilst keeping a good nose and pair of eyes in the suspect vicinity.
Most common cause of "smoke in the cabin" I know of is a faulty air conditioning or engine bleed air system. If any oil gets into the ECS then this can be smelt and in extreme case seen in the cabin air. Causes of this could be a seal failing in the engine, over filling the oil, a cold air unit failing amongst others.
Get a fire in flight - you're in the kack. About the only way to get access behind a panel without tools and the know how is to attack it with the fire axe and discharge a fire extinguisher in there. This in turn can make matters worse because some areas are designed to starve a fire of oxygen and make it self extinguishing (eg lav and galley bins).
Best detection tool - Mark 1 Nose. If it is burnt/overheated materials then the smell usually lingers in that vicinity.
Any circuit breakers tripped?
If not evident after the event then try to reproduce the conditions it was noticed whilst keeping a good nose and pair of eyes in the suspect vicinity.
Most common cause of "smoke in the cabin" I know of is a faulty air conditioning or engine bleed air system. If any oil gets into the ECS then this can be smelt and in extreme case seen in the cabin air. Causes of this could be a seal failing in the engine, over filling the oil, a cold air unit failing amongst others.
Get a fire in flight - you're in the kack. About the only way to get access behind a panel without tools and the know how is to attack it with the fire axe and discharge a fire extinguisher in there. This in turn can make matters worse because some areas are designed to starve a fire of oxygen and make it self extinguishing (eg lav and galley bins).
