latest on Air nagukurr? is that how you say...........
 

Is Air (place about 280nm se of dn)ngukkur still operating. . .Read some posts on it a few weeks ago. Sounds like how another company was started up there. From an Island a little further east. But that company had people who started it using the money from the wah wahs to set a standed on how a charter company should be run. Not use it on them selves. Atleast not until they left the company. . .There still going on strong I hear.

The company you refer to is still operating. They have a new CP in place who apparently (rumour only) is respected by the current pilots.

RESPECTED?!?!?!?! <img src="eek.gif" border="0"> <img src="eek.gif" border="0"> . .I'm sorry prop, but that couldn't be further from the truth. (as you said it was a rumour, it was probably started by the CP himself!!). .I've worked under this guy before, and the few people that I know at Air Ngukurr, really dislike him, and thats being nice!. .He doesn't like pilots that don't suck up to him, or pilots that stand up for their rights. Also i've heard he is a bit racist, i won't say his name, but he knows who he is. . .Now all you ex-air ngukurr pilots out there, you thought the old CP was bad, he is an ANGEL compared to this new bloke.. .I think the whole 'power trip' thing has got to him, and he thinks he is gods gift to pilots, so in that sense, he comes across like a budding Hitler!! :) . .Any of you current Air Ngukurr boys, or friends of them, make your own comments on here about him, I'd really like to know if it's just a few of you who feel the same way, or is it the same across the board?? <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

I think there are probably many who would like to know, what life in AN(gkurr)Mk2 is like.

As someone new to DN, it's seems imposible to know whether to go meet this guy and s##k up, or when to draw the line & avoid them to protect my career. With old claims (no longer in archives I note) and recent ones of CDEP pay, terrible living conditions, and.... . [quote] a budding Hitler!! <hr></blockquote>. ....it's all very confusing.

Have things improved???

The last I heard from a friend was that things were quite good up at Air Ngukurr.

Firstly Offchocks, things at air NGU are ok, i mean with the whole airport being very quiet, not much work is going on.. .Secondly Gotmygearup, the old CP, who recently had his approval taken off him, isn't that bad, people in the company, not just pilots, have said he has improved over what he used to be like, and in my opinion, he is nt an unreasonable man. However, the new CP, who used to be the CP of Kak Air, well twice he was, and there were many a pilot made unhappy with this character. When this person left the CP position of Kak Air, he came back shortly after, and the pilots employed by the stand in CP, were not looked after (basically he didnt like them), and the pilots knew it too. So a few of them were hired by Wimray, and they are still there with the purchase by air NGU, so he is a but funny towards them, actually he is a but funny towards alot of the current pilots, tho there are a few who he likes (for reasons i shant say).. .Suer he is bad, and is getting rather too bossy, i think that "a budding hitler", is going a little too far, he isn't THAT bad, maybe your friends are in his bad books or something, but i do agree on the power trip, he was never this way when he was just a casual at wimray.

this is getting confusing... . .can someone clarify?

1.hasn't air ngukurr bought out wimray?. .2.and the old CP at ngukurr is a kiwi with initials H.E.?. .3.and the current CP at ngukurr who was also ex CP at Kak air name of Cr... Mi....?. .4.does ngukurr still operate under the wimray name?

1. Yes. .2. Yes. .3. No (Ro... Do....). .4. Yes

Hey Bionic Vapour Boy, you refer to the current CP liking a few of his pilots....do you mean the "Bull" factor??

[ 02 March 2002: Message edited by: Jose Cuervo ]</p>

My few cents worth are as follows to any aspiring wannabe trying for a job in NT with BULL:

1. Desparation for your first type job may require you to work for the current Bozo CP at Air Ngukurr. And yes, you may be required to apply a little vasoline to your rear end.. .2. Don't forget, it's a means to an end.(Being your big airline career). .3. Bozo (Bull)will never have an airline career, so you can expect s**t from him cos' he's jealous of most pilots employed under him. I believe he's not allowed near the Bandit, so he's even more agro.. .5. Do not try to talk sense into this idiot when you have an interview. (He doesn't know what he's on about: thinks aiming points are variable and can move up and down runways). He is always right cos' he's the CP.. .6. He responds well to being called "Bull"(I think this is his role in his current boy/boy relationship). .7. It's very quiet in the to end right now, no work anywhere, but if you have in excess of 1000hrs and good sound knowledge on C210/C206 you may land a job with Hardy's.. .8. Wac wac's require an ATPL with 6 shuttle launches and monn landing recency.. .9. Give old Bull a go, you never know what's around the corner.

Ah yes, the infamous BULL factor! Think it means Bull$**** factor.

Bull$*** factor. .I always thoguht it was the Bullwinkle factor. . <img src="http://www.everwonder.com/david/bullwinkle/1.gif" alt="" />

Gotmygearup what is CDEP pay ?

Community Developement Education Program. .. .Its kinda Like work for the dole for people in Aboriginal Communities.

Thanks Peter

Ask Bozo about VH-GKZ crash at Kakair. Really showed his true colours there. Made lots of friends(NOT)!!! Bend over boys, you are all in for a good shafting. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"> Community Development Employment Projects (CDEP). .Community Development Employment Projects (CDEP) provide employment for Indigenous people in a wide range of community projects and enterprises, and allow Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities and organisations to take control of their own communities' economic and social development. . .. .Now the Commonwealth’s largest Indigenous program, CDEP began in 1977 at the request of a number of remote communities who wanted an alternative to continued reliance on unemployment benefits. In 1984 it was expanded to include Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people living in rural and urban areas.. .. .The new CDEP objective, endorsed after a 1997 review, is: ‘To provide work for unemployed Indigenous persons in community-managed activities which assist the individual in acquiring skills which benefit the community, develop business enterprises and/or lead to unsubsidised employment.". .. .Description: ATSIC provides a grant to a community or organisation for them to undertake community-managed activities and pay wages to workers. CDEP organisations managing projects also receive amounts to cover the costs of administration and capital items. . .. .The CDEP scheme is led by the communities and participants involved. Any activity that benefits the community can be a CDEP activity; these range from community maintenance to land management to the development of businesses to cultural or sporting activities. (ATSIC Website) </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">... The line, "To provide work for unemployed Indigenous persons in community-managed activities which assist the individual in acquiring skills which benefit the community..." says much...But only if it's true!. .. .No-one has ever cleared up whether the airline actually was or more importantly is working under this or not.

Zuludead,. .Tell me more about the great GKZ. I used to fly that bucket of *^%$ until about 6 months (i think?) before it spudded in. Fuel pump failure, I heard but I didn't hear about the political fallout afterwards.

Zuludead, be careful.... . .. .I realise casting dispersions is your specialty but unless you have fact not innuendo be very careful.. .. .You caused enough trouble already without attacking somebody else. I know who you are as do others. Again be very careful, legal action is not pleasant. .. .I would have posted you personally but you dont have your email address handy. . .. .Your dispersions also have a secondary effect.. they ruin it for many other Ppruners who come here to have a quiet read, chat, or informed debate.

C'mon Northern Chique, lighten up, I thought this was what the PPRUNE was all about.......... .This is EXACTLY why I'm here.. . . . <small>[ 08 March 2002, 13:44: Message edited by: Jose Cuervo ]</small>

I agree Jose!! Northern Chique, babe, Chill out!!. .In case you have forgotten, it is a rumour network!! Let them flow, fast and free <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />