Diesel
Diesel
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Don't know about Oz, but you might like to go here to get info on developments in the US:
http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/AST/GAP/
cheers
http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/AST/GAP/
cheers
What did you have in mind, Vege?
A Lister in your lightie, Bukh in your Beech or a Toyota diesel in a Tobago?
I think it's Renault that is currently leading development of a cheap 3,000 hour throw away diesel donk for light aircraft.
A Lister in your lightie, Bukh in your Beech or a Toyota diesel in a Tobago?
I think it's Renault that is currently leading development of a cheap 3,000 hour throw away diesel donk for light aircraft.
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Thanx Dog cant seem to google up anything on the plane.
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Aynayda Pizaqvick and Malexa Kriest
Awul Dasfilshabeda and Nowaynayda Zheet
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Aynayda Pizaqvick and Malexa Kriest
Awul Dasfilshabeda and Nowaynayda Zheet
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You might like to check out the site http://www.smaengines.com .
These seem to be closest to full certification.
These seem to be closest to full certification.
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Ah, Vege, just curious but what is this:
"Aynayda Pizaqvick and Malexa Kriest
Awul Dasfilshabeda and Nowaynayda Zheet"
A new language from your homeland, perhaps? Or something you picked up from a pi$$ed Chimbu?
"Aynayda Pizaqvick and Malexa Kriest
Awul Dasfilshabeda and Nowaynayda Zheet"
A new language from your homeland, perhaps? Or something you picked up from a pi$$ed Chimbu?
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I did read an article once on a kiwi Ag company running diesel in their flecher's (turbine I suspect), I used to run jet a1 in my landcruiser and it ran beautifully. Can't wait to see the new range of lycoming/continental replacment diesels an the market, no more maggy troubles!.
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Diesels have been used with good sucess for tens of years in model aircraft. They are known for their high output for weight, which is great, and their incredibly high fuel usage, probably due to the fact they are 2 strokes.
Yup, 2 stroke diesels that pull more than 10,000 rpm.
Yup, 2 stroke diesels that pull more than 10,000 rpm.
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I might put me hand up and see if they want one flight tested in a very harsh Australian enviroment. If it can last the distance doing my work it should be certified.(and I get a couple of thousand hours free)
I just wanna see someone shoehorn two of those 18-litre 650HP turbo-charged Cummins diesel truck engines into a Cessna 310 and see how it goes! (Don't do it Wiz, mate, I'm only kiddin'!)
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Diesel is obvious...you run AVTUR in 'em. All sprog wannabes can log it as kerosene time
Ran an old Golf once on fuel drains for ages.
Torres thats a gag about London airport announcements...anyone help with a URL?
Ran an old Golf once on fuel drains for ages.
Torres thats a gag about London airport announcements...anyone help with a URL?
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Vege. OK. I remember that gag now.
A word of warning if you run Jet A1 in a normal diesel engine. Jet A1 is very "dry" in lubricants due to the refining process. You will need to add at least a liter of oil per 30 liters of Jet A1. Conversely, I find using Jet A1 in a workshop cleaner far better than kero or diesel as it doesn't leave an oily residue.
And on a similar subject, if you run an engine that required "power kerosene" (e.g. in tractors etc), power kero is 3/4 lighting kero plus 1/4 super grade leaded gasoline.
A word of warning if you run Jet A1 in a normal diesel engine. Jet A1 is very "dry" in lubricants due to the refining process. You will need to add at least a liter of oil per 30 liters of Jet A1. Conversely, I find using Jet A1 in a workshop cleaner far better than kero or diesel as it doesn't leave an oily residue.
And on a similar subject, if you run an engine that required "power kerosene" (e.g. in tractors etc), power kero is 3/4 lighting kero plus 1/4 super grade leaded gasoline.
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Smelly diesel's
Throttle monkey,
Some of the PT6 range can be run on dieso and some versions in the thrush come to mind. Hopefully the cocky's diesel has been filtered for gunge, dust, cockroaches, little bugs, water and all the other stuff that comes out of tractor filters when the engine stops......
Critical mass,
Wanna see the pictures of a GM 6V53 in a Pawnee?????
Torres,
50 - 50 Dieso and Jet A runs very well in the Datto 720.
Syd
Some of the PT6 range can be run on dieso and some versions in the thrush come to mind. Hopefully the cocky's diesel has been filtered for gunge, dust, cockroaches, little bugs, water and all the other stuff that comes out of tractor filters when the engine stops......
Critical mass,
Wanna see the pictures of a GM 6V53 in a Pawnee?????
Torres,
50 - 50 Dieso and Jet A runs very well in the Datto 720.
Syd
The first PT6 ag version was the PT6A-34AG, designed to run on almost any liquid fuel that would burn - avgas/mogas, diesel, kero!
I think there was a later, more powerful version as the PT6A- 45AG. the -45 was a commercial variant of the -41/-42 and was installed in a few aircraft, the Shorts SD3-30 comes to mind.
I think there was a later, more powerful version as the PT6A- 45AG. the -45 was a commercial variant of the -41/-42 and was installed in a few aircraft, the Shorts SD3-30 comes to mind.
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You sure of your facts torres as I would have thought the -11 and -15 as found in the AT 402 would have preceded the -34 by a fair margin.
The AG designator refers only to the air filtration system fitted for Agricultural operations otherwise a -34 as fitted to an AT502 is identical to that fitted to a Bandit etc and as for running on Avgas, well yes you can but only for 150hrs between overhauls however diesel is fine..... older stuff caused sulphidation problems but diesel now has a reduced sulphur content which cured the problem and is cosiderably cheaper!
Other than that your probably right
Oh yeah BTW we have had the -65AG of 1250shp for a while now .
The AG designator refers only to the air filtration system fitted for Agricultural operations otherwise a -34 as fitted to an AT502 is identical to that fitted to a Bandit etc and as for running on Avgas, well yes you can but only for 150hrs between overhauls however diesel is fine..... older stuff caused sulphidation problems but diesel now has a reduced sulphur content which cured the problem and is cosiderably cheaper!
Other than that your probably right
Oh yeah BTW we have had the -65AG of 1250shp for a while now .
-11 or -15 - I would have thought they were museum pieces by now!
And a -67AG - now that would have real grunt!
Yup, 150 hours only on avgas between overhauls. But 50 liters of avgas per week works better than Prist to keep the bugs at bay!
And a -67AG - now that would have real grunt!
Yup, 150 hours only on avgas between overhauls. But 50 liters of avgas per week works better than Prist to keep the bugs at bay!