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Could someone please advise me if one needs to do a degree or diploma course these days to succeed with a career in aviation.
Any advice on flying schools in Melbourne.
Any advice on flying schools in Melbourne.
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Geelong Flight Centre now offers a Dipolma in applied science
(aviation).
They are 45mins from Melb.
Very proffessional , personal.
See them at [email protected]
(aviation).
They are 45mins from Melb.
Very proffessional , personal.
See them at [email protected]
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Thanks for the info, still trying to find a school with a good reputation, where you are not just a number, with experienced instructors.
Not familiar with Melbourne, anywhere like Whitworth Aviation at Bankstown?
Not familiar with Melbourne, anywhere like Whitworth Aviation at Bankstown?
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I can also recommend geelong flight centre. They are very professional, and you are definately not treated like a number. If you want to fly only with the senior instructors, then you only fly with the senior instructors, and they will organise a program according to your wishes.
If they are running a Diploma, that is also good.
Be sure to check out any diplomas or courses that are offered. I did a diploma as part of my studies with a Melbourne Uni, and told them to shove their flight training and training school, and did it with Geelong. Admittedly, they have since changed flying schools, but I was not impressed with the course at all. Words like 'waste of time' spring to mind.
If you have any questions, you can email etc.
good luck
If they are running a Diploma, that is also good.
Be sure to check out any diplomas or courses that are offered. I did a diploma as part of my studies with a Melbourne Uni, and told them to shove their flight training and training school, and did it with Geelong. Admittedly, they have since changed flying schools, but I was not impressed with the course at all. Words like 'waste of time' spring to mind.
If you have any questions, you can email etc.
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Susie,
Only time will tell if diplomas and degrees will give you an edge.
Good experience and training will go a long way.
Try Peter Bini's at Moorabbin, very experienced instructors with a great reputation.
Only time will tell if diplomas and degrees will give you an edge.
Good experience and training will go a long way.
Try Peter Bini's at Moorabbin, very experienced instructors with a great reputation.
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G'day
I am also in the current situation trying to pick one or the other.
The path i will take will be to do an Adv Dip in Aviation and then upgrade to a degree.
I like the idea of being able to do the flying that goes into the 3 year degree in the space of a year.
This i hope will get me a job while i finish off the degree
Hopes this helps
I am also in the current situation trying to pick one or the other.
The path i will take will be to do an Adv Dip in Aviation and then upgrade to a degree.
I like the idea of being able to do the flying that goes into the 3 year degree in the space of a year.
This i hope will get me a job while i finish off the degree
Hopes this helps
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Thanks and good luck,
From those I have talked to, its a Degree or general training with good experience afterwards in general aviation.
I know of some who have gained an airline position without degees or diplomas. No TER scores and no HEX - TER scores do not seem to be a pre- requisite for an Aviation diploma.
Not sure who to believe, seems its what ever is the flavour of the month!!!!.
From those I have talked to, its a Degree or general training with good experience afterwards in general aviation.
I know of some who have gained an airline position without degees or diplomas. No TER scores and no HEX - TER scores do not seem to be a pre- requisite for an Aviation diploma.
Not sure who to believe, seems its what ever is the flavour of the month!!!!.
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evening susie
degree's are not of much in value, in GA, but prolly help further on
other recomendations i have are, its not who you know its who you blow..... relationships in the workplace, course unit u8362, UNSW
dont be afraid to make use of the furry logbook.... Corparate Managment, course unit 4495, ECU
intimate knowledge of indiginous beverage refreshment selection, Welcome to the Kimberlys 101, All states,
degree's are not of much in value, in GA, but prolly help further on
other recomendations i have are, its not who you know its who you blow..... relationships in the workplace, course unit u8362, UNSW
dont be afraid to make use of the furry logbook.... Corparate Managment, course unit 4495, ECU
intimate knowledge of indiginous beverage refreshment selection, Welcome to the Kimberlys 101, All states,
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Yes I agree with you luna landing. I think Chinese chickens post shows a real weakness in character.
Anyway, I am really at odds as to how a degree in Aviation is of any real benefit.
Do you really gain that much more with regards to the extra time and money that you have to put into a degree.
I lean towards the opinion that "theory is for show and practical is for go" How does it really help your handling and decision making skills?
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Anyway, I am really at odds as to how a degree in Aviation is of any real benefit.
Do you really gain that much more with regards to the extra time and money that you have to put into a degree.
I lean towards the opinion that "theory is for show and practical is for go" How does it really help your handling and decision making skills?
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Uni degrees
Had the chance to do an aviation degree in Melb but decided that it would be better for me if i did a degree in another area. That way if i lose my medical i have something to fall back on plus i feel that it makes me a little more employable, being multiskilled in two different areas.
An aviation degree only helps you with aviation and has been mentioned before, they are pretty useless in GA jobs.
My 2c worth
An aviation degree only helps you with aviation and has been mentioned before, they are pretty useless in GA jobs.
My 2c worth
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I can't see the point of doing a 3 year degree. You lose 3 years of flying and in many cases with 3 years flying you would be looking very closely at applying for an airline if that was your end goal. If your started the degree after leaving school most people would be 21 once finished and have around 150-200 hours logged. On the other hand if you went straight into GA and completed your CPL in 6 months at the same age you may have logged around 1200-1500 hours. I know which option I would take
Also today many uni's offer degrees by correspondance and can be completed while working if you really want that piece of paper.
Also today many uni's offer degrees by correspondance and can be completed while working if you really want that piece of paper.
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Add an extra feather to your cap with a degree!
I guess in the cockpit, not much. However degrees are looked upon as a professional qualification. Doesn't really matter what the degree is, just a matter of being able to apply yourself to a period of extended study. Comes down to discipline in the end.
It is needed over in the US, UK and Asia.
What makes you think in the future that it won't be the same here?
I lean towards the opinion that "theory is for show and practical is for go" How does it really help your handling and decision making skills?
It is needed over in the US, UK and Asia.
What makes you think in the future that it won't be the same here?
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A degree or tertiary qualification is definetly worth having. Not necessarily an aviation degree. And yes, perhaps done by correspondence while flying. If you are not too knackered at the end of a long days flying, and have the self discipline to stick it out.
Not everyone "cracks" an airline job. That can really be a bit of a "lottery". Even if you do, I know of more than one person, when interviewed for airlines, who was looked upon as very favourable because of the "peice of paper". Conversely I have often seen people get a good GA job with lower hours because of multi skills. Marketing, Computers, a multitude of things are applicable to aviation and can be used elsewhere as well. You only have to look through some of the technical publications from Australia or internationally and check out the profile of the "execs", the flying ones too, to see who are in these positions.
Not everyone "cracks" an airline job. That can really be a bit of a "lottery". Even if you do, I know of more than one person, when interviewed for airlines, who was looked upon as very favourable because of the "peice of paper". Conversely I have often seen people get a good GA job with lower hours because of multi skills. Marketing, Computers, a multitude of things are applicable to aviation and can be used elsewhere as well. You only have to look through some of the technical publications from Australia or internationally and check out the profile of the "execs", the flying ones too, to see who are in these positions.
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How many people do you know that have completed their CPL in 6 months and then get a job straight away, enabling them to get 1200-1500 hours in then next 3 years. I know guys flying for 10 years and have just got to 3000 hours.
I say if you're young, go get that degree first and try and get a few hours on the way. The qualifications will become a greater issue in the future, because despite what people say I think jobs will become more competitve in the future.
Java
How many people do you know that have completed their CPL in 6 months and then get a job straight away, enabling them to get 1200-1500 hours in then next 3 years. I know guys flying for 10 years and have just got to 3000 hours.
I say if you're young, go get that degree first and try and get a few hours on the way. The qualifications will become a greater issue in the future, because despite what people say I think jobs will become more competitve in the future.
Java
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