Sim Ride Prep in Sydney
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Sim Ride Prep in Sydney
G'day,
Does anyone have the details of a guy in Sydney that apparently does an airline sim ride prep course in a Citation sim?
Contact details greatly appreciated.
Phlaps 40
(Oh and feedback on what it's like would also be greatly appreciated)
Does anyone have the details of a guy in Sydney that apparently does an airline sim ride prep course in a Citation sim?
Contact details greatly appreciated.
Phlaps 40
(Oh and feedback on what it's like would also be greatly appreciated)
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Hi Messiah,
Thanks for your reply. I note you don't have his number but any idea on how to contact him? Such as where the sim is that he uses? Thanks.
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Thanks for your reply. I note you don't have his number but any idea on how to contact him? Such as where the sim is that he uses? Thanks.
Phlaps 40
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Ex Royal British Airfarce, personally I'd save my money.
Get some time in a reasonable twin simulator and just practice your scan and instrument procedures. Sounds extreem, but do at least 10 hours in no more than 2 hour blocks. Learn how to fly a simulator and not depend on those natural senses that have served you so well so far.
Ex Royal British Airfarce, personally I'd save my money.
Get some time in a reasonable twin simulator and just practice your scan and instrument procedures. Sounds extreem, but do at least 10 hours in no more than 2 hour blocks. Learn how to fly a simulator and not depend on those natural senses that have served you so well so far.
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When I was told my simride was in the Classic, I went to Bankstown and hooked into a twin piston sim.
It cost me $80, but it was the best money I'd ever spent. I had only flown 1 hour in the previous 7 months, and that was in VMC.
My scan was all over the shop for the first 15 minutes, but after that it started coming back.
A mate of mine who had been through the QF simride a few months earlier took me through the patterns and approaches. I found this was great preparation for the sim proper which occurred the next day.
As the QF sim is flown at quite a light weight, the speeds are quite low - ie 120 - 180 kt, which you can fly quite easily in a twin piston sim. Hence there is no need at all to practice in a jet sim. Save your $$$.
It cost me $80, but it was the best money I'd ever spent. I had only flown 1 hour in the previous 7 months, and that was in VMC.
My scan was all over the shop for the first 15 minutes, but after that it started coming back.
A mate of mine who had been through the QF simride a few months earlier took me through the patterns and approaches. I found this was great preparation for the sim proper which occurred the next day.
As the QF sim is flown at quite a light weight, the speeds are quite low - ie 120 - 180 kt, which you can fly quite easily in a twin piston sim. Hence there is no need at all to practice in a jet sim. Save your $$$.
Personally - I found just a reasonable PC sim to be an excellent preparation. FS5.1 was the go at the time and the Lear served me well. Just get the speed control sorted out and you're away.
Hey you guys...don't make the sim ride out to be more than it is. If you can fly SP IFR the sim is a breeze. They are just looking for improvement as the sim session progresses...ie. your ability to learn. If you go in there and start like an ace there is only one way you can go...unless your an ace that is!
Enjoy it
Enjoy it
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Capt Fathom is right. QF expects you to be able to fly instruments first off. They don't expect you to be an Ace on a machine you have not flown before, but what they want to see is improvement (learning) as you go along. If your instrument flying is a little rusty then have a practice on a generic sim.
By the way Capt Wilkinson was head of training in QF at one stage. He did my interview sim, final sim check and final base training check at Avalon when going from SO to 747 FO. Hard task master but fair.
By the way Capt Wilkinson was head of training in QF at one stage. He did my interview sim, final sim check and final base training check at Avalon when going from SO to 747 FO. Hard task master but fair.
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He also conducted one of the best CRM courses I have ever attended. All useful information, no war stories (although he must have plenty), and all the main points backed up with case studies and role plays that were effective and to-the-point.
Sowpwith Pup, ITCZ,
I think we must be talking about different people, they have done the same jobs, but the bloke I was thinking of was never known as fair (fair B#$*&@ perhaps) and had no concept of CRM but yes did teach it. HA! JOKE!
I think we must be talking about different people, they have done the same jobs, but the bloke I was thinking of was never known as fair (fair B#$*&@ perhaps) and had no concept of CRM but yes did teach it. HA! JOKE!
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If you can afford it, definetly do the jet training. But also do the light twin training. Do as much IFR training as you can. You get one chance at this ( well maybe two ), you need to bias everything in your favour. I'm not sure of the cost of the jet sim training, but if you get into qantas it will be well worth every dollar spent. Its also tax deductible if your employed in aviation.
I had about 10,000 hours flying when I went for my qantas sim test, and I still couldn't believe the pressure that you put yourself under when actually in the sim. You realise that everything depends on how you fly this sim. The outcome, your dream job, or another few years in the wilderness.
Above all, try to relax, know that you have done all you can in the way of preparation, and give it your best shot.
Good Luck
I had about 10,000 hours flying when I went for my qantas sim test, and I still couldn't believe the pressure that you put yourself under when actually in the sim. You realise that everything depends on how you fly this sim. The outcome, your dream job, or another few years in the wilderness.
Above all, try to relax, know that you have done all you can in the way of preparation, and give it your best shot.
Good Luck
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Gentlemen....again, thank you for your feed back. 
But to correct a few assumptions that have been made:
- I have a CX sim ride to do, not a QF one
- I fly a jet at the moment, so it's not 'jet differences' I am trying to learn. But rather improve my scan and deal with a much higher level of inertia.
For the record, I've pretty much decided to jump in a IFR twin sim. I will fire up ye olde PC flight sim and get some practice on high weight aircraft there I guess.
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But to correct a few assumptions that have been made:- I have a CX sim ride to do, not a QF one
- I fly a jet at the moment, so it's not 'jet differences' I am trying to learn. But rather improve my scan and deal with a much higher level of inertia.
For the record, I've pretty much decided to jump in a IFR twin sim. I will fire up ye olde PC flight sim and get some practice on high weight aircraft there I guess.
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Phlaps,
Not sure what cx are using right now for sim rides but if it is the -400, save your money and just get on the computer with precision 747-400. It will get your 744 scan going and the sim will be a breeze.
Not sure what cx are using right now for sim rides but if it is the -400, save your money and just get on the computer with precision 747-400. It will get your 744 scan going and the sim will be a breeze.
