Virgin Blue and the Aussie ATPL
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Virgin Blue and the Aussie ATPL
I hear that Virgin Blue are not accepting Aussie ATPL's converted from foreign ATPL's...is this true?
If it is then doesn't that seem a little rich given that they happily accept affordable American 737 type ratings yet the US ATPL is not good enough for them.
What's the situation regards a bloody expensive UK ATPL converted to an Aussi one...qe?
If it is then doesn't that seem a little rich given that they happily accept affordable American 737 type ratings yet the US ATPL is not good enough for them.
What's the situation regards a bloody expensive UK ATPL converted to an Aussi one...qe?
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Reading between the lines with this situation I dare say you'd be ok converting a full UK ATPL to an Oz one. I think what VB are trying to stop is people from Oz ducking over to the States and getting a US ATPL and doing a conversion exam to get the Oz ATPL.
Of course, I could be completely wrong.
Of course, I could be completely wrong.
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I heard that Qantas had started to ask questions aswell. Simple things like "who did you do your ATPL with"? This let them know wether it was OS or local.
Not sure if its true or not but maybe there is a point to it...
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Not sure if its true or not but maybe there is a point to it...
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Don't know about the situation now but when the aussie atpl was one exam, lots of people who had difficulty passing the aussie one went to the USA as an easier option and than converted.
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Some pretty bold statements there BIK_116.80..!! Especially the bit about the UK flight tests an exams being substandard to the Australian ones.
I agree with you on the cost of the UK exams and flight tests massively exceeding reality but thats all.
We don't use 95% of what we learn for ATPL exams, ie Doppler Shift, so what does it matter?
If a talented and experienced pilot can't get through through one particular Aussie ATPL exam and goes to the USA to get around this problem then does that make him a less skillfull aviator then?
I agree with you on the cost of the UK exams and flight tests massively exceeding reality but thats all.
We don't use 95% of what we learn for ATPL exams, ie Doppler Shift, so what does it matter?
If a talented and experienced pilot can't get through through one particular Aussie ATPL exam and goes to the USA to get around this problem then does that make him a less skillfull aviator then?
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I suppose my cv will be overlooked now. As I went to the States three years ago and got my USATP . Afterwards I got a job flying King Airs in Central America and the Carribean. I returned to Aussie in July 2001, and converted my USATP by doing a conversion exam. I also have a NZATPL under the Trans TASMAN agreement. Does this mean my qualificatiuons are a complete sham, and should be contested when applying to Virgin or the"Q"?
I am now back in the Carribean after Sept 11 and intend on doing my British JAA ATPL via correspondence, after this maybe I will be recognised. The whole thing to me, is a farce, a licence is a licence. In the end its the Employer who should decide, and this should be done at interview stage, or even check flight, as I believe a CV only tells half the story.THE SOONER WE GET A REAL GLOBAL LICENCE THE BETTER!
By the way, my US Licence has got me , better quality jobs than my Aussie or Kiwi ones have. Makes you think if its all worth it.
I am now back in the Carribean after Sept 11 and intend on doing my British JAA ATPL via correspondence, after this maybe I will be recognised. The whole thing to me, is a farce, a licence is a licence. In the end its the Employer who should decide, and this should be done at interview stage, or even check flight, as I believe a CV only tells half the story.THE SOONER WE GET A REAL GLOBAL LICENCE THE BETTER!
By the way, my US Licence has got me , better quality jobs than my Aussie or Kiwi ones have. Makes you think if its all worth it.
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BIK,
Have to agree with you regarding the UK ATPL theory, the mere mention of a compas swing makes me feel sick.
Have to say though that the various flight tests I have done in the UK have been just as demanding as those i did in Aus. For example that whole +/- 5kts IAS of a speed you nominated on the ground for all aspects of flight, not just, ie; climb, cruise, descent, holding etc was not something I have seen before.
The whole thing was a pain in the @rse. At least its in the rear view mirror now.
So the quetion is, when is an ATPL not an ATPL.
Have to agree with you regarding the UK ATPL theory, the mere mention of a compas swing makes me feel sick.
Have to say though that the various flight tests I have done in the UK have been just as demanding as those i did in Aus. For example that whole +/- 5kts IAS of a speed you nominated on the ground for all aspects of flight, not just, ie; climb, cruise, descent, holding etc was not something I have seen before.
The whole thing was a pain in the @rse. At least its in the rear view mirror now.
So the quetion is, when is an ATPL not an ATPL.
