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Old 14th Apr 2002, 03:58
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Picture one is without doubt Marawaka.
I scared meself silly enough times going in and out of there to stamp it forever on my mind.
The shot is taken along the T/O path,it being a one way strip.
I have however landed in the T/O direction ONCE being the only option I had in stinkin weather.
dats another story.
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Piccy 1 is Marawaka and I'm almost certain piccy 2 is Wonenara. That valley curving away to the left straight after takeoff gives it away.

Both easy strips but that part of the Eastern Highlands bordering on the Anga part of SW Morobe Province was always tiger country. It wasn't a part of the country I spent a lot of time in, unlike the areas that bordered it , Chimbu to the west and Morobe to the east where I spent thousands of hours, so it always had a slightly foreboding air about it for some reason. For me anyway.

It can't be Omkalai because the valley off the end of Omkalai is MUCH bigger and you can turn right into it to go to Diraman and another strip I can't think of the name. + Omkali has been closed for ages.......at least the early 80s. Typically the brudders build a 'road' close the strip and then the road is closed due land slides 90+% of the time!!!!!!!!!

I always thought Kamalai was the most spectacular strip I operated into regularly, although plenty of others were shorter, steeper, rougher etc.

I gave myself a beaut fright at Kamalai one day when I arrived to find cloud covering the top 4/5ths of the strip. Well I went back and forth off the end of and below the strip waiting for it to lift enough to land. As often happens when you hang around waiting for an improvement I made a few dummy runs, the first was aborted and I dived away down and left, curving back out into the valley.

Father Abel, who had been at Kamalai since just after WW2 and had built the strip there in the 70s was sitting in the parking bay listening to me roaring around in my Twotter, but unable to see anything because he was in solid IMC!!!

Well the cloud lifted 'enough' for me to have a go and so I commited to a landing.........not one of the smarter decisions I've ever made!!!!!!

I figured there was maybe 100 metres of clear strip to land on and that the 'cloud base' was probably 20' on the rest which would allow me to see the rest once on the ground

Crossing the threshold at Kamalai you go from about 2000' agl to touch down in a few seconds......I got a kick in the pants crossing the threshold that kept me airborne at about 3 to 5' long enough to go IMC.........I slammed both PT6s into reverse and touched down, bounded up the hill and around the corner in full reverse and arrived in the parking bay to see poor old Father Abel standing by his old 2 stroke Suzuki with his lower jaw hanging around his knees.......complete with the ever present Mutrus rolly stuck t his lower lip

I shut down and opened the cockpit door as he looked up in awe saying in his very heavy french accent "Mon Dieu......but how do you do zis?? Ahh but you have been 'ere many times!!!"

I don't think he noticed my knees knocking.....or my hand shake as I lit a smoke and watched the brudders unload his stuff

I have a piccy of Kamalai looking back down from the parking bay...taken on a nice day, I'll email it to ya Oz if you don't have one.

Ahh the good ol' days

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Well done Chuck! I knew that I could count on ya for the final confirmation. So now, thanks to you, F3 , Torres and Veg, we now know that :-

Photo 1 = Marawaka; and
Photo 2 = Wonenara.

Thanks all for that.

Chuck ... yes please mate. My own photos of Kamulai are a tad vague and VERY poor quality - mainly due filthy windscreen. But, then, filthy windscreens are pretty unusual in PNG, huh?

Just to add to the PNG horror stories ... seems that most of my own lives were spent at Fane. There were a few at Tapini too, but I'm not brave enuf to go into those just yet!

Anyway, after a somewhat "memorable" arrival at Fane, on one particularly sh!tty morning, opted to wait a while. Had the customary bacon, eggs and coffee there while waiting and was being beseeched to wait as long as necessary for the weather to clear. Those fathers were really great to me!

But, what can I tell ya? There was a lot more flying to get thru on that day, so I didn't want to be at Fane very long. I'd been studying the weather while drinking the coffee. It began to look like the cloud, down the bottom end of the strip, would lift like a curtain every few minutes, allowing me to glimpse the other side of the valley for a minute or two at a time, before lowering again and totally obscuring the view.

This was good news, of course, because seeing the other side of the valley from the top of the strip meant I had a good chance of getting out of there safely. Thus, my plan was formulated.

With the trusty old 206 loaded up for the trip back to POM, I waited with the engine running. Several more times, the curtain of cloud raised and lowered just as it had been doing since I first noticed it. So, as the curtain began to rise again, I went for it.

That's when Sod's Law came into effect.

The curtain only went up about half way and began to lower again. I'm committed to take-off now and starting to wonder how many seconds after take-off before I'll hit the wall on the other side of the valley. Making matters worse, there's a ridge that runs pretty much right across final approach, about half way to the opposite site of the valley.

I settled for level flight at 4500 feet for a maximum of 30 seconds, followed by a turn onto 300. Then climb for all I'm worth and hope for the best. Funny how sh!t can happen eh. Anyway, they were THE most nerve-wracking 30 seconds of my life!

At the 30 seconds mark, I started my turn. At that precise moment, the cloud cleared just enuf for me to spot the ridge in my 2-o'clock position. I continued on runway heading and descended slightly, to keep the ridge in view.

As I passed the ridge, the cloud lifted, allowing me to make a visual turn to the northwest, to follow the Fane valley thru to the Tapini Valley and the safety of the coast. I never want to do anything like that again!

I returned to Fane later in the day, by which time the weather had improved. The old Swiss(?) father said he prayed for me when he saw the cloud base lowering at the end of the strip, just after I started my take-off. I assured him that God had heard his prayers ... and, just maybe, some of mine too.

The real rub was, of course, that after my miraculous escape from Fane to Moresby, all the other Goilala flying was deferred due weather. My next trip to Fane, that several hours later, was the first of the subsequent flights that the weather had permitted!

Anyway... anyone else got a photo of an unknown PNG airport?
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I was once flying an islander back from Girua one day to Lae, and landed on one of the rather short grass strips along the way. Because the natives in PNG just luff to cut the long grass on the strip with there broad swords, they managed to leave piles of the cut grass along my landing roll naturally. After disembarking from the plane to open the doors for my passengers, I realized that the grass had caught up in the main undercarriage, between the two wheels on each strut, and had been set alight from my brakes and set my wheels on fire. But my story has a happy ending and the locals and I had ridden the grass and extinguished the fire much to my relief, and I took of again in amazment. aahhhhhheeeeeee

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At least we've sorted that out.

Marawaka has a bit more vegetation in the photo than when it was opened. Did a few shuttles once upon a time and had a bit left in the drum of avgas before going home. Dispensed with the DCA requirement to drain upside down for 24hrs before flying empty; tipped the residual down the barat [on the rhs in photo], counted to 10 and dropped a match in. The water flow had carried it halfway down the strip and a fine whoosh went up.

Half of the lapoon Kukakukka's who sat quietly with their bows and arrows on the top of the bank above the barat took to their heels in fright while those who stayed laughed them into extreme embarrassment. Didn't stay with the Kiap for an overnight after that as I figured I'd not wake up due to an axe in the skull.

OTOH, with deepest respect, I'd disagree with you CC about Wonenara being easy. The closest building on the lhs of the photo was the resting place for quite a while of a C185 which a chap initialled LT groundlooped bigtime. Perhaps OK in the am if you've been correctly strip endorsed, but fickle winds pm could make it very dicey. It caused me some exciting moments when doing WON-MWA-WON shuttles in the afternoon.

Aaaaaaaah. Time bilong Kiap.

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PS Kids: don't try the avgas trick at home!!
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Seems like everyone has a worse horror story than any of mine - and that's just fine by me! But at least t seems I'm not the only one to have had to learn how to wash one's own VERY soiled grundies...

Chuck ... that was fast work mate! I got the pic of Kamulai a few minutes ago. Can't add it to your gallery on my site until next time in CNS, coz the reference to your gallery is on the laptop that I keep there. Anyway, for the time being, you'll find the photo of Kamulai strip here.

I love that avgas trick BTW, F3 - it appeals to me own warped sense of humour!
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Photo 1 definitely Marawaka.
Marawaka the home of the woven rug and bloody nice potatoes.
A week after I started with Talair and a couple of trips to Marawaka under my belt, I was sent in there solo in a C185 which I had only a couple of circuits with Max beforehand, to deliver medical supplies to a Kiap out in the bush using heliboxes. First time I had flown the 185, although I had done about 5 hours in a C180 and held a 180 rating. I flew that 185 for about six months when CAA caught up with me to tell me that I had been flying it without a rating and so I had to do a type rating. I had more time on the type than the Training Captain giving me the rating.


Photo 2 is certainly not Omkali but could be Tep Tep.
Tep Tep was good for spuds and green vegetables.

Had quite a good business backloading out of both those places.
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Vege. Well I remember that Pommy engineer (Ron) of whom you speak with fond affection.

He lived behind me at the stone houses.

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It's Tep Tep, not Wonenara? Geez, this seems harder than I thought... Any other votes for Tep Tep? Any other offers?
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Not Tep tep.
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No not Tep tep. Tep tep is way steeper and seriously high up in the mountains north of Nadzab........6500' amsl from memory, not in a valley.

It's Wonenara alright. Makes sense too when you consider two photos taken on the same day with the same camera would be of strips not far apart.

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It is so hard to identify some of these strips, they don't look as nasty in the photo's and the slope is f*****g hard to percieve.

Whats the shortest strip operated into today ?????
My little bible has Selbang at 360 metres at 4600 ft and 10.5 slope

There is sure to be one that beats that!!!
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Chuck ... I've just had a closer look at the photos and they seem to have been taken one day apart, according to the date stamp on them. However, the terrain seems very similar and, while there are some similarities with terrain north and north-east of Nadzab, I would reckon that both photos were taken in the same part of the country.

TS ... without me own books on hand, I can't confirm that Selbang is the shortest, but could easily be. Or, pretty close to the shortest, anyway.
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Your right about the dates. It's not Tep Tep though as Tep Tep has a huge valley off to the right that you fall into and then climb across heading for the Saidor Gap.

Tail Stand if there was a shorter strip in PNG than Selbang then it's not among the 318 strips I went into and out of.

Garasa at 385m was a little longer but flat and rough which made it look a little interesting when on short finals with a tailwind. Of course the only reason there was a tailwind was I couldn't be bothered flying a circuit coming from Kira

I have always believed the steeper the better.......17% gives you more margin when on the 20th sector for the day than a short flat one.......particularly a short, flat, wet, muddy one

Kimina was always interesting at 380 odd metres and about 8% slope (from memory) when, after mid morning you had a 10Kt tailwind, it was raining and you were commited to a landing on the strip, or a crash right beside it from two miles out on final due to terrain.

Does anyone else remember Kamako BEFORE it was lengthened around that corner?????

What about Bawan? Now there was a sphincter gripper. Elevated threshold like so many others, 60 metres of flat then downhill at about 3 or 5% then uphill at 5% with a side slope off to the right of about 4%. Rock in there in a BN2/C185 when it's wet

Richard never let any of the Co-Air (and later Kiunga) guys go in there period!!!

Muddgaurd told me to take a BN2 in there one morning for a DCA strip inspection.

"But I havn't been in there" This was before I got my ANO 28 exemption!

"No worries shags.......I gotta dispo for ya!!"

Well having quized a Morobe Airways pilot about the place (Paul Seeto) off I trot to check myself in, and about 4 other first strips that morning.

Well a few days later the Chief Pilot (Bones) siddles up to me an sez "Hey Chuck did you check yourself into Bawan a few days ago?"

"Yep......as well as x, y and z........Muddy told me you'd dispo'd me"

"Not on your life!!!!!!!"

"******!!!!!!"

"How did it go?"

"Well Seeto briefed me and it was OK.....sorta"

"Well we better give you an ANO 28 exemption then eh"


Muddy and I remained friends anyway We used to refer to the ANO 28 exemption as 'a licence to be lost'.......but there was a miniscule (5% from memory) pay rise that came with it

Chuck.

PS For the unannitiated 'ANO 28' was the one that stipulated route/strip endorsing.

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I think I just s#!t meself just reading that.....!
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When you overfly Bawan and look at it from above it looks ok, but when you descend into the valley and turn final all you see is this cliff with a little clear spot on the top with a windsock and some threshold cone markers + 30 metres in one more set of cones, and BIG mountains all around

My tyre marks started about 1 foot past the threshold markers...someone....might've been Max L, crashed the Porter there!!!

I destinctly remember thinking "FARK ME!!!" as I turned finals!!

Richard told me years later that when it was first built( about the time of 'Independance') an expat surveyor went in there in a chopper, took one look and said "NO WAY........NOT EVER!!!". A few months later his position had been localised and sooty went in there to 'survey' it and said "Ohh......Emi oraight"

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You've just got to see and do this S**T just to even imagine it possible.

I wish I had a Kina for every time I said "F#%K ME How did I do that" whilst scooting in and around Tabubil.

Best flying I'll ever do.
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TS,

I have slides of the approach to Wonenara and I think some of Marawaka in the early days when they were still chopping the hill down on what is now the threshold.

The Wonenara slides DO give a perspective of the slope and why it's so easy to simply slip into the parking bay halfway up the hill [entrance just visible on rhs of photo.] Mind you, it would be no questions asked on how they were taken.

Anyone know how you get slides into 1's & 0's?

G'day

PS Omkali closed 20 years?? They must have done some major works on the Gumine road!!
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Nope its not Omkali
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Chuck ... I sometimes wonder if Milesy and Muddy were related.! Certainly two peas out of adjacent pods, anyway!

F3 ... not being an expert on that, but suspect you'll have to make prints from the slides. You can then scan the prints. The scanned photos can then be uploaded to a web site or online photo gallery. After that, all you need is the URL for the site, or for each individual photo, and you're in business. Easy...
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