KD restart - NW Tas and SA
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KD restart - NW Tas and SA
Well - the Government has announced that a restart of AN/KD services within SA and into NW Ts has been approved with a $3.89M loan.
How far is that going to go, and what on earth apart from serving the communities that need the capacity is this going to do to resurrect our beloved dinosaur?
There is already talk of CRJs operation BWT and DPO under QF flight numbers.
Now - the AN flights restart - are the existing tickets honoured? Are they refundable? What about oncarriage agreements??
This is truly a half ar*ed attempt a political point scoring. The coal face has NONE of this information, and we are going to be swamped tomorrow. Nice one guys.
We all want our mates at KD and AN and the other regionals back in the air and soon - but this aint the way to do it. Let the industry know - PROPERLY!!!!!!!!!!
$3.89M is a mere fartin the bath and will raise many hopes and NONE of groundwork has been done. Empty aeroplanes belting about will make it zero million very quickly.
If anyone has any concrete (that stuff between Politicians ears) info - I not only would appreciate it but need it.
Best all
EWL
How far is that going to go, and what on earth apart from serving the communities that need the capacity is this going to do to resurrect our beloved dinosaur?
There is already talk of CRJs operation BWT and DPO under QF flight numbers.
Now - the AN flights restart - are the existing tickets honoured? Are they refundable? What about oncarriage agreements??
This is truly a half ar*ed attempt a political point scoring. The coal face has NONE of this information, and we are going to be swamped tomorrow. Nice one guys.
We all want our mates at KD and AN and the other regionals back in the air and soon - but this aint the way to do it. Let the industry know - PROPERLY!!!!!!!!!!
$3.89M is a mere fartin the bath and will raise many hopes and NONE of groundwork has been done. Empty aeroplanes belting about will make it zero million very quickly.
If anyone has any concrete (that stuff between Politicians ears) info - I not only would appreciate it but need it.
Best all
EWL
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BUT - much of the stink is eminating from the Land of the Wrong White Crowd.
The airline was hurting and NZ took over - obviously not able manage anything more complex than a sh*t fight in a sewerage farm.
It has been said to me that the only way to save AN was to remove the top 4 layers of Management and replace them.
Obviously SQ (Be vewy vey quiet - I'm hunting ariwiners!!) is sitting back until the right nanosecond before it becomes the white knight.
A post of mine from 8 months ago has come 90% true - much to my dismay.
Put in the NZ board - allow it to self immolate taking AN and NZ with it - restart on own terms.
SQ is the silent player in all this - allowing bumbling idiots to do their dirtywork - all unwittingly.
EWL
BUT - much of the stink is eminating from the Land of the Wrong White Crowd.
The airline was hurting and NZ took over - obviously not able manage anything more complex than a sh*t fight in a sewerage farm.
It has been said to me that the only way to save AN was to remove the top 4 layers of Management and replace them.
Obviously SQ (Be vewy vey quiet - I'm hunting ariwiners!!) is sitting back until the right nanosecond before it becomes the white knight.
A post of mine from 8 months ago has come 90% true - much to my dismay.
Put in the NZ board - allow it to self immolate taking AN and NZ with it - restart on own terms.
SQ is the silent player in all this - allowing bumbling idiots to do their dirtywork - all unwittingly.
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I had been thinking that if you could get enough money to restart Ansett, cut the wages and get it semi profitable then you know you might be able to sell it to Singapore Airlines in the future.
Being able to get it profitable would be the big IF.
Being able to get it profitable would be the big IF.
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Fred - I think you will find that at the base line all of this has been carefully engineered by SQ - to lay waste to 2 major airlines to their medium term gain. Their eventual control of AN and NZ is more than assured AN #2 is doomed - unfortunately.
Consumer confidence is zero and they have chosen to ignore Travel Agents. We will therefore have to ignore them and have embraced DJ.The aeroplane model is ordered, the request for replacing the AN painted window with a DJ window is in and all AN signs are down.
It hurt - but it was needed.
EWL
Consumer confidence is zero and they have chosen to ignore Travel Agents. We will therefore have to ignore them and have embraced DJ.The aeroplane model is ordered, the request for replacing the AN painted window with a DJ window is in and all AN signs are down.
It hurt - but it was needed.
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EWL,
I've worked for a few retail companies, and they were all based on selling a product made/provided by someone else; the business operated and (hopefully) made a profit by buying the product at wholesale, adding value and a margin in any of a number of ways, and then selling the final package to customers - the retailer shared some commercial risk with the producer.
Of such shared risk true partnerships are formed; it seems to me unremarkable that airlines and Travel Agents have such fleeting loyalties towards each other without it, and that airlines increasingly prefer to minimise costs by selling direct - especially where the administrators are taking the huge commercial risk with the AN kick start.
Best of luck with DJ - and protect your sources.
Cheers
I've worked for a few retail companies, and they were all based on selling a product made/provided by someone else; the business operated and (hopefully) made a profit by buying the product at wholesale, adding value and a margin in any of a number of ways, and then selling the final package to customers - the retailer shared some commercial risk with the producer.
Of such shared risk true partnerships are formed; it seems to me unremarkable that airlines and Travel Agents have such fleeting loyalties towards each other without it, and that airlines increasingly prefer to minimise costs by selling direct - especially where the administrators are taking the huge commercial risk with the AN kick start.
Best of luck with DJ - and protect your sources.
Cheers
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Wise words 32bits. Thankfully we are not left holding the stock when the incumbent falls over. Sadly, I would love to see AN viable back to normal - but cannot help as I am not included in the loop. We get overides from QF too - so we will not lose out. I cannot afford to help my mates - and that really hurts.
The whole scenario stinks of the Federal Govenrnment doing a 3 month patchup so as not to lose votes and doing nothing to swing the Trave community in behind it. Add 5% to the fares and Travel Agents will swing in behind their old mate.
Simple as that - include us in the loop - give some long term future to the airline - and we are THERE!!!
Overide commissions (those paid after the client has flown) can wait until it is viable again.
The way it is being done has switched off 75% of their potential sales outlets.
It seems planned suicide to me.
Regards
EWL
The whole scenario stinks of the Federal Govenrnment doing a 3 month patchup so as not to lose votes and doing nothing to swing the Trave community in behind it. Add 5% to the fares and Travel Agents will swing in behind their old mate.
Simple as that - include us in the loop - give some long term future to the airline - and we are THERE!!!
Overide commissions (those paid after the client has flown) can wait until it is viable again.
The way it is being done has switched off 75% of their potential sales outlets.
It seems planned suicide to me.
Regards
EWL
