AN regionals
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I am reluctant to comment on anything about Ansett for fear of being attacked as anti Ansett again, however........
The title says "AN Regionals", and I too was wondering where they all stand in this.
I believe some, like Kendell, are owned directly by Air New Zealand, and not owned by Ansett. With these I take it that they would be able to operate as normal whatever happens? Regionals that are owned by Ansett I am guessing would have the same fate as Ansett, whatever that turns out to be?
Air New Zealand have not mentioned, that I have noticed?, about these Regionals.
Anyone with better info????
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The title says "AN Regionals", and I too was wondering where they all stand in this.
I believe some, like Kendell, are owned directly by Air New Zealand, and not owned by Ansett. With these I take it that they would be able to operate as normal whatever happens? Regionals that are owned by Ansett I am guessing would have the same fate as Ansett, whatever that turns out to be?
Air New Zealand have not mentioned, that I have noticed?, about these Regionals.
Anyone with better info????
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Air North should be okay, they'd probably just change booking systems and chug on. They're one of the few Ansett aligned, but not owned, regionals.
As for the others........????????
As for the others........????????
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Good questions.
Kendell is owned by Ansett, but has it's own AOC, not sure about the other regionals but I would guess this would also be the case. Presumably there would be nothing stoping an administrator (if it gets to that)from splitting up the Ansett group and sell it off piece by piece.
The regional airlines were profitable in their own right so could possibly more attractive to a perspective buyer than the group as a whole.
I hope it doesn't get to this obviously but it is a possibility.
Kendell is owned by Ansett, but has it's own AOC, not sure about the other regionals but I would guess this would also be the case. Presumably there would be nothing stoping an administrator (if it gets to that)from splitting up the Ansett group and sell it off piece by piece.
The regional airlines were profitable in their own right so could possibly more attractive to a perspective buyer than the group as a whole.
I hope it doesn't get to this obviously but it is a possibility.
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IsDon,
Not quite,......KD is owned by BODAS not Ansett, as is Skywest and the duck. Bodas has many links to its name including things such as the KD Super Company.
Oh and by the way KD has not been profitable for awhile........
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[ 10 September 2001: Message edited by: Ray Dar ]
Not quite,......KD is owned by BODAS not Ansett, as is Skywest and the duck. Bodas has many links to its name including things such as the KD Super Company.
Oh and by the way KD has not been profitable for awhile........
(edited for spelling)
[ 10 September 2001: Message edited by: Ray Dar ]
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If Air NZ should go under too (for whatever reason), the country will be effectively stripped of all domestic carriers. Australia too would have a big void to fill by the looks of the posts in here thus far.
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I can tell you that Bodas is not directly owned by AN, so perhaps Kendell, Hazo's, the duck and Skywest might be hived off if the mandarins so decree. KD especially though is so interwoven with the AN network it could be in more trouble than the rest. Haven't seen a thing specifically about the regionals in the press......
I can tell you that Bodas is not directly owned by AN, so perhaps Kendell, Hazo's, the duck and Skywest might be hived off if the mandarins so decree. KD especially though is so interwoven with the AN network it could be in more trouble than the rest. Haven't seen a thing specifically about the regionals in the press......
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I dare say that if the mother ship goes down, then so will the regionals. My prediction........all regional routes to be given to larger GA companies or established RPT operators because remember, the man himself said that regionals will be the first effected by "rationalization".
Hang on folks....we're in for a bumpy ride!!
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I dare say that if the mother ship goes down, then so will the regionals, and even if AN gets through this mess, it will be the regionals that will see the first effects of "rationalization".
Hang on folks...the rides gonna be rough !!!
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As I have said in other places, the hole AN is in is very deep and as the media is now broadcasting that QF & VB are the last chance, I believe that only parts of the AN system will survive. I believe those parts are most likely to be the regionals, especially the ones that don't compete with the QF regionals. As for the mainline part it is very hard to say, maybe VB would like an instant expansion....Good luck
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I think that the AN regionals (especially KD as they are so interwoven in the AN network) will be in very deep trouble should AN go toes up or be gutted like a fish and shared between QF or VB.
Even if KD is owned by another Co somebody must have been supplying the cash te keep them operating on a daily basis over the last few years. I'd say its AN or Air NZ.
Man this is interesting. VB get set for a big expansion and the current pilot shortage in this country may very well end very shortly!
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Even if KD is owned by another Co somebody must have been supplying the cash te keep them operating on a daily basis over the last few years. I'd say its AN or Air NZ.
Man this is interesting. VB get set for a big expansion and the current pilot shortage in this country may very well end very shortly!
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OK,history (like about two days worth..) may prove me very wrong - VB to gobble up KD & maybe Skywest with their single class structures, especially since the ACCC will probably insist AN is divided up into as many component parts as possible to be sold to as many owners who'll take 'em, in the name of "competition". QF to take the juicy bits of AN itself. Interesting ain't the word!
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Skywest is an anomily. They make money, in fact one of only several sections of the greater group who do. Although their oncarriage is only around 5% of pax the problem would be with the ticketing and res. system. Not sure they'd be able to make money with any of the existing types AN operate in the west though, even with their relatively low cost structure. Surely however this would make them an attractive option for the big Q's shopping trolley.