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Old 26th Sep 2001, 04:44
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I too was very wary of what the guy on 60 minutes said. The words "Do you you think we care?" haunt me.....
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Shocka,

I have to agree.

It found it rather refreshing to see a smart-@rsed 60 mins reporter laid flat on her @rse after asking a stupid inane question.

As for Dr Hibbert, he is either brain dead or doesn't own a TV where he could see the results of the actions of the madmen he chooses to allow to act so without retaliation.

The sane mind BOGGLES!!!!!!
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Old 27th Sep 2001, 17:32
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Me thinks we all should be very careful who our friends are and who we let into this country. I heard on Radio that the CIA trained Ben Laden to fight against the Russians during the Ford Presidency. Now the Russians help the US to fight Ben Laden. Sadam Hussain also was assisted by the US in his earlier years. Who needs friends like that? It seems to me we are fixing short term problems by creating long term problems. I aggree the terrorists MUST be eliminated, I just hope we don't use people who will turn against us when it suits them.
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Old 27th Sep 2001, 19:25
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At least it's now fairly apparent that thanks to cooler heads and Colin Powell, the hawks in the US administration will not be permitted to lead the US further into the trap of inflaming the Middle East whilst in a righteous rage. That was quite transparently the ambush set by bin Laden. It required his forces to mount a very outrageous inflammatory initial strike in order to ensure that the American people would demand instant vengeful retaliation - and that's why the Flt 93 failure to find the WhiteHouse was quite providential. If the WhiteHouse or Capitol had gone up in smoke also, well then there may have been no quenching the blood-lust of the US public clamour. In fact hitting the Pentagon, from the fanatics' point of view, may prove to have been a very bad idea. It's certainly concentrated the outlook, morale and focus of the US military.

So in reality history owes those few heroes of Flt 93 much much more than it presently realises. Their having defeated the absolute clincher of the bin Laden plan might now mean that his ultimate intention of embroiling the US and Western Democracies in that Biblical Middle East Islamic war to end all wars (between Islam and the Infidel) may not now come to pass. Hopefully it will just now be a case of surrendering a few civil liberties whilst relentlessly rolling up the terrorist networks. But you clamp down on one generation of terrorists and it simply lays the foundation for a new breed of disgruntled religious partisans, and, funny old thing, they're always Islamic. They are destined to forever be no less a scourge than the swarms of locusts and plagues of the Bible. It's become obvious now that a very ruthless approach to sorting them out is what's required. By being totally focussed, patient and avoiding reflexive responses, the US forged Coalition against Terror can be very effective. It will certainly, over the long-haul, sort out who is the enemy and who are the true allies. What we are now seeing is that national borders are essentially fading into obscurity. By the end of the next decade they should be mere lines on maps delineating the demographic boundaries of the Free World on one side and the containment cages of the satanic fanatics on the other.

For the pariah States that sponsor terrorism, the message is now that their own borders have become prison boundaries that will contain them, but no longer protect their harboured fanatics. No United Nations Resolution is required for any State that needs to protect itself by crossing another state's boundaries in order to bring terrorists to account. Sovereignty is not an issue - it's just that the very arbitrary rule of hot pursuit died on 11 September 2001.

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Old 28th Sep 2001, 09:05
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Mutt ref your question to me on page 1 of this thread, I think Dagger here said it all.

In my humble opinion and by no means well-informed:

* the world will be much more security-conscious. People adapt in time. There just shell-shocked and angry at the moment

* Pakistan and India will have there problems sorted out with either UN or US mediation. Both countrys benefit

* a change of government in Afganistan. This may or may not be the Northern Alliance.

* Bin Laden a charred corpse

* An alliance of sorts between civilised islamic countrys spearheaded by Saudi A or Pakistan (maybe even the PLO) who colectively try to sort out there problems and only ask for US or UN mediation as a last resort

* Saddam H removed. Baath party remains in power but sh!t-scared of the UN and the ME islamic-country alliance

Further down the road (10 years +):

* Decreasing OPEC influence on Western economys

* Israel pulls its bloodey head in

* Much less US influence in the ME. Israel shifts from a military-based economy to a more free-enterprise one. PLO and Israel work closer to improve economic outlook, education etc of both peoples.

* Economic rise of Pakistan and Iraq. Iraq does well from tourism

As I said just my humble opinion and by no means an expert prediction.
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