New Ansett Award
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Well, Kap M,
It is hard to follow your reasoning about min hours. Before 55 hours was required for Min Guaranteed pay. Now it is 550 hrs divided by 12 = 45.83 hours.
The hourly rate of $200 is approximately equivalent to what was paid before: maybe a little less. Certainly not 25% less. Compare that with VB's 900 hours required for $110000 annually. Not that this is intended to rubbish VB at all as I wish them well but since VB has an AFAP approved contract and consists of a fair percentage of '89ers it does seem a little incongruous.
Seems reasonable that ex AN A320 pilots would get first preference since they already are A320 rated but there will be more A320 pilots required initially and even more if AN is successful. That would open the way for other ex AN pilots without an A 320 rating and others as well. Perhaps there are a few VB pilots with A320 ratings who would apply.
It is hard to follow your reasoning about min hours. Before 55 hours was required for Min Guaranteed pay. Now it is 550 hrs divided by 12 = 45.83 hours.
The hourly rate of $200 is approximately equivalent to what was paid before: maybe a little less. Certainly not 25% less. Compare that with VB's 900 hours required for $110000 annually. Not that this is intended to rubbish VB at all as I wish them well but since VB has an AFAP approved contract and consists of a fair percentage of '89ers it does seem a little incongruous.
Seems reasonable that ex AN A320 pilots would get first preference since they already are A320 rated but there will be more A320 pilots required initially and even more if AN is successful. That would open the way for other ex AN pilots without an A 320 rating and others as well. Perhaps there are a few VB pilots with A320 ratings who would apply.
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EPIRB, beerbrewer,bulldog 69 et al. Just curious to know if any of you have been able to find out how the AN superannuation will be paid? Anyone know?
And how does VB pay their pilots' super?
And how does VB pay their pilots' super?
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Thanks Okie,
Actually that is less than the 10% paid on Guaranteed salary before. However it is now based on actual earnings if more so overall it is better provided you work a few more than guaranteed hours of 45.8 a month.
Actually that is less than the 10% paid on Guaranteed salary before. However it is now based on actual earnings if more so overall it is better provided you work a few more than guaranteed hours of 45.8 a month.
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BOY, the natives are noisy tonight! 
You'll all go back to work and you'll enjoy it!
After a couple of years you'll get used to the new pay and forget all about it. Things will pick up O.S. but I doubt any will go, this fine land of ours is just tooooo goooood.
Right the lines in, now lets see who bites.
You'll all go back to work and you'll enjoy it!
After a couple of years you'll get used to the new pay and forget all about it. Things will pick up O.S. but I doubt any will go, this fine land of ours is just tooooo goooood.
Right the lines in, now lets see who bites.
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Kaptin M you will be happy to know that the new award includes a provision for reserve duty so now AN pilots can be paid for sitting at home whereas before they weren't. The other good bit is the $200 dollar payment if you work on an RDO on top of your flight pay. In fact if an AN F/O flies 700 hours he will be paid more than a VB Captain!
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IF you mean the actual document, it was probably deleted when I had to delete all of my threads, sorry about that, it was NOT my fault........
Find following........
PILOTS APPENDIX
Arrangement
1. Arrangement 1
2. Incidence 2
3. Title 2
4. Definitions 2
5. Contract of Employment 3
6. Flexibility & Dispute Resolution 4
7. Dispute settlement 5
8. Promotion and Appointments 6
9. Pay Rates 6
10. Paid Leave 8
11. Ground Duties and Deadhead Travel 8
12. Transfer Costs 8
13. Accommodation and Allowances 8
14. Leave 9
15. Insurance 9
16. Uniforms 10
17. Hours of Service 10
18. Preparation of Rosters 10
19. Scheduling Rules 11
20. Reserve Duty 11
21. Open Flying 12
22. Company Briefing Days 12
23. Transition (Subject to Avoiding Duplication and Checking Consistency with Part A) 12
Incidence
This Appendix shall be binding on Queenscross Pty Ltd (trading as Ansett Australia) ("the Company" or "employer") in respect of all Pilots employed by the Company.
Title
This Appendix shall be known as the Pilots Appendix.
Definitions
"Assign" means the allocation of duty to a Pilot by the employer.
"Base" means the geographical location at which Pilots are domiciled in accordance with the employer's requirements.
"CAO Part 48" means a direction made under the Civil Aviation Act 1988 (“CAA”
about Flight and duty times and issued as a civil aviation order.
"Captain" means a Pilot who is appointed as a captain by the employer and who is currently licensed by the Civil Aviation and Safety Authority (“CASA” to act in command of an aircraft.
"Cleared to the line" means that a Pilot has completed all training associated with a type endorsement and has been approved by flying operations headquarters to fly with any other line Pilot.
("Deadhead travel" means all travel performed at the direction of the employer not associated with the actual operation of the aircraft.
"Duty period" means all time on duty in accordance with Civil Aviation Orders (“CAO” and this Appendix.
"First officer" means a Pilot who is appointed as a first officer by the employer and who is currently licensed by CASA to act as second or third in command of an aircraft requiring two or more Pilots or act as Pilot in command of a one Pilot aircraft.
"Flight time" means the time between the earlier of start up or push back and shut down on each sector flown by the Pilot as an operating crew member.
"Flight time limitations" means limitation in accordance with CAO Part 48 or any exemptions agreed with the Union and approved thereunder.
“Ground Duties” means non-Flight duties, within the skill and competencies of a Pilot.
"Intake Pilot" means a Pilot appointed by the Company until the Pilot is first cleared to the line. While an Intake Pilot, the Pilot will be on probation and for such further period in accordance with clause 5(a).
"Pilot" shall have the meaning, ascribed to that expression in clause 1 of schedule 1 of the Workplace Relations Act 1996.
"Roster period" means, unless varied by agreement between the employer and its Pilots, a complete financial month for the purpose of pay and Flight time limitations, except that:
in any leap year, the months of January and February shall be divided into 30 day periods being from 1 to 30 January inclusive and from 31 January to 29 February inclusive; and
in all other years the months of January, February and March shall be divided into three 30 day periods being from 1 to 30 January inclusive, 31 January to 1 March inclusive and 2 March to 31 March inclusive.
"Roster" means a Pilot's scheduled arrangement of work for a roster period.
"Sign on time" means, the rostered sign on time for duty by an operating Pilot where Flight duty is involved, which shall be not less than 45 minutes prior to the scheduled departure time of the Flight. Where deadhead is the only duty, or if deadhead immediately precedes Flight duty and the planned transit time is greater than 60 minutes, sign on shall be 30 minutes prior to the scheduled departure time. Where transit time prior to Flight duty is less than 60 minutes, sign on shall be 45 minutes prior to departure time.
"Sign off time" means the time of completion of all duties associated with a tour of duty and shall be not less than fifteen minutes after the actual aircraft arrival time where Flight duty or deadhead is involved, not less than fifteen minutes after duty, associated with a licence renewal and not less than 60 minutes after an overseas operation involving a customs clearance.
"Time" means, except where mentioned, local time.
"Training Pilot" means a Pilot who is appointed by the employer to perform in-flight instruction and/or carry out any training of any nature.
“Transferee Pilot” means a Pilot who was employed by Ansett Australia Limited immediately prior to commencing employment with the Company.
"Union" means the Ansett Pilots Association or successor or substituted body.
Contract of Employment
The services of a Pilot shall be terminable by either the employer or a Pilot:
during the first six months of service, which shall be a probationary period, by seven days notice in writing;
after the completion of six months of service, by one month's notice in writing;
by the payment to the Pilot of seven days or one month's salary in lieu of notice as aforesaid;
nothing in this Appendix shall derogate from the employer's right at common law to summarily dismiss a Pilot for misconduct, negligence or other sufficient cause.
Notwithstanding anything herein contained to the contrary, the employer shall have the right to hold a Pilot out of service on the Minimum Salary Rate during an investigation into an accident or incident in which the Pilot may have been involved. The employer shall ensure that the time involved in the investigation is kept to a minimum.
Where the investigation reveals that the accident or incident justifies instant dismissal, the Pilot may be required to repay any and all salary paid from the commencement of the investigation, but the rate of repayment per month shall not exceed 50% of the Pilot's monthly Pay calculated on one -twelfth of the Minimum Salary Rate.
Where the investigation reveals that the Pilot was not at fault, the Company will Pay to the Pilot the difference between the Pilot’s Pay calculated at the Minimum Salary Rate and the flight hours rostered to be worked during the suspension period.
Pilots shall not fly an aircraft during their employment except in the service of the employer unless the employer otherwise consents in writing.
The employer shall be entitled to deduct from the pay due to the Pilot any overpayment made within the preceding 6 months of salary or any unauthorised expense paid by the employer on behalf of the Pilot or any balance outstanding of any advance of money made by or on behalf of the employer to the Pilot only after notification to the Pilot in writing.
The employer may require an Intake Pilot to enter into a bond of $25,000 not to engage in employment as a Pilot with another employer for the period of five years. In the event that a Pilot resigns from the Company or is dismissed for cause the amount Payable under the bond shall relate to the unexpired period of the bond. If the Pilot’s employment ceases for any other reason the Pilot shall not be required to Pay the bond.
If, for reasons of incapacity, a Pilot cannot perform his employment duties for six or more months the employer may bring employment to an end.
The employer will indemnify and release Pilots against all claims and demands made against them by any person (including the employer, employees of the employer, passengers of the employer and legal personal representatives), where the claim or demand is made as a result of injury or loss to a person or property as a result of a Pilot’s negligence in performing his or her duties in the course of his or her employment except where such injury or loss was caused wilfully by the Pilot unless the injury or loss was beyond the Pilot’s control.
In addition, the employer will provide legal counsel and defend Pilots and their estates in any legal actions arising in connection with the performance of their duties, and indemnify them and hold them harmless from any judgement arising from such legal action.
Employment will be in the Company unless otherwise agreed.
Flexibility & Dispute Resolution
Object of this clause of the Appendix
The object of this clause of the Appendix is to provide for mechanisms in which disputes and other matters relating to the operation of this Appendix are resolved at the enterprise level as quickly and as efficiently as possible.
Partners in Business Success
The Company will establish a Workplace Relations Committee ("WRC") to oversee the flexible application of this Appendix to meet the vision of the business. Whilst the composition of the WRC will vary over time with the size, structure and needs of the business, it will initially comprise a captain and a first officer who will be selected by the Union and a similar number of management representatives determined by The Company.
The primary roles of the WRC are:
to decide how to handle challenges and changed circumstances that may arise due to the growth of the business;
to oversee the operation of the facilitative provisions of this Appendix; and
to act as the occupational health and safety committee, as required by legislation.
Facilitative Provisions
The standard approach in this Appendix may be departed from by agreement between the Company and an employee or the WRC, as appropriate. However, where other provisions of this Appendix specify that the agreement of the Union is required, then those provisions will prevail.
The following is an inclusive list of the facilitative provisions and the level of agreement required:
Subject Matter Clause Level of Agreement
Leave 14 Individual
Part-time work Individual and WRC
Salaries (in relation to salary packaging) 9 Individual or WRC
Overnight accommodation and transport for employed Pilots 13 WRC
Annual leave rostering 14 WRC
Contacting Pilots 20 WRC
Facilitative agreements will be recorded in writing and be available on request.
(d) Dispute Resolution
If any dispute or difficulty arises over the implementation or continued operation of a facilitative provision, the matter will be handled in accordance with the dispute settlement procedure in Clause 7 of this Appendix.
Dispute settlement
Any disputes arising from this Agreement shall be determined pursuant to the following procedure:
The matter will be first discussed between the aggrieved Pilot and the relevant supervisory person at the Pilot’s Base.
If not settled, the matter will be discussed between the aggrieved Pilot and a more senior level of management, or their nominee, and a Union representative or Pilot nominated representative if requested.
If not settled, the matter may be submitted to the Australian Industrial Relations Commission for conciliation and arbitration. The Commission’s decision will, subject to any appeal in accordance with the Workplace Relations Act (1996), be final and will be accepted by the parties.
Until the matter is resolved, work shall continue normally. No party shall be prejudiced as to the final settlement by continuance of work in accordance with this sub-clause.
Promotion and Appointments
Promotion from First Officer to Captain and from one aircraft type to another shall be based upon merit, having regard to matters including qualifications and experience.
The Company and the Union shall determine appropriate merit based criteria for promotion.
Management Pilots, Check Captains and Training Pilots shall be appointed by the Company.
Management Pilots and Check Captains may be offered individual contracts that are no less favorable in the aggregate than the terms and conditions of this Appendix. If a Pilot accepts such a contract, the terms and conditions of this Appendix will not apply. Normal maximum Flight and duty hours in any roster period shall be in accordance with the CAO Part 48 and any applicable exemption as agreed between the Union and the employer.
If a Check Captain ceases to hold that position, this Appendix will apply.
A Management Pilot who wishes to return to the line may elect to do so and the terms of this Appendix will apply.
For the purposes of this clause, “Management Pilot” means a Pilot other than a line Pilot who is appointed to perform predominantly management duties.
The number of Pilots appointed as Management Pilots shall not constitute more than 20% of the total number of Pilots engaged by the Company unless agreed with the Union.
A Pilot’s initial appointment as a Training Pilot shall be for a minimum period of one month. Any further appointment shall be for a minimum period of three months.
Pay Rates
Pilots cleared to the line shall be paid the following rate of pay for each hour of Flight time (“Flight Pay”:
Classifications
Captain $200.00 per hour
First Officer: 60% of Captain's salary $120.00 per hour
The Company aims to maximise flying time for all Pilots, and will be seeking Pilots to fly at least 700 hours per annum.
Notwithstanding the hourly rate set out in sub-clause (a) above, and subject to a Pilot being ready, willing and available to work, each full time Pilot cleared to the line is guaranteed a minimum annual salary of not less than:
$110,000.00 per annum for a Captain; and
$66,000 per annum for a First Officer
("the Minimum Salary Rate").
Pilots will be paid monthly in arrears, and Pilots cleared to the line will be paid the greater of:
For Captains - $7,500 and for First Officers - $4,500; or
the Pilot’s monthly Flight time multiplied by the Pilot’s Flight Pay.
If, at the end of each financial year, a Pilot has received less than the Minimum Salary Rate (not excluding any periods of unpaid leave), the Pilot must be paid the difference between the Minimum Salary Rate and what has been received. The relevant amounts will be calculated on a pro-rata basis for periods of service less than twelve monthly in the financial year.
Training Pilots shall be paid an additional 8.5% of the salary rate prescribed in this clause.
After 12 months, the parties will conduct a joint review to consider whether the minimum monthly pay can be increased consistently with the objective of earning the Minimum Salary Rate of $110,000 based on $200 per Flight hour is met. If Pilots are regularly being rostered more than 45.83 hours per roster then the pay rate in sub-clause 9(d)(i) will be increased to 1/12 of the Minimum Salary Rate.
The joint review will also consider the pay rates in this Appendix having regard to:
the profitability of the Company;
retention rates within the Company; and
other matters.
Intake Pilots will be paid monthly in arrears at an annual rate of First Officer $25,166.
Salaries shall be paid monthly by electronic fund transfer to the Pilot's nominated account at a recognised financial institution.
Where a Captain is required to perform the duties of a First Officer on the aircraft type currently flown the appropriate Captain's salary shall continue to be paid.
A Pilot may nominate their own choice of complying superannuation fund and the Company will make all applicable superannuation payments on behalf of the Pilot to that fund.
The pay rates referred to in this clause are only applicable to Pilots who fly aircraft in the Airbus A320 family (including variants A318, A319, A320 and A321). The Pay rates for Pilots who fly any other aircraft types are reserved.
Paid Leave
For the purposes of annual leave and long service leave, the rate of pay will be the greater of a monthly rate of one-twelfth of the Minimum Salary Rate or Flight Pay multiplied by the Pilot’s average of Flight time during the period of twelve roster periods (pro rata for employment of less than twelve roster periods) immediately preceding commencement of the leave at the rate of Pay applicable at the time of taking leave. Any period of leave will not be included in the twelve roster periods for the calculation of Pay.
Sick leave will be paid at a rate of one-twelfth of the Minimum Salary Rate.
Where paid leave is paid to the Pilot that payment is instead of the Pilot’s applicable Pay specified in sub-clause 9(d).
Ground Duties and Deadhead Travel
A Training Pilot who conducts a ground training program during the roster period will be credited with the average number of Flight hours flown by line Pilots of the same rank during the period of the ground training program.
Any deadhead travel required in excess of 5 hours in any roster period and any deadhead travel required in excess of 50 hours in any financial year shall be paid at the rate of 50% of the Flight Pay rate.
Where Pay for deadhead travel is paid to the Pilot that Payment is in addition to the Pilot’s Pay specified in Clause 9.
Transfer Costs
A Pilot when transferring from one base to another at employer direction shall be entitled to receive Payment from the employer for reasonable expenses incurred for the removal of furniture, possessions and personal effects.
Accommodation and Allowances
Pilots on duty, away from home base, will be provided with accommodation of an adequate standard conducive to rest and following discussions with the Union.
Transport will be provided from the airport to/from the place of accommodation. Where a Pilot advises at least 36 hours in advance of sign on, or upon notification by the employer of the assigned flying, whichever occurs last, of intent not to use accommodation arranged in accordance with this clause, the Pilot shall:
receive an allowance of $60.00 for each occasion such accommodation is cancelled, or
have provided by the employers, transport by taxi or hired car, or the cost thereof, between the air terminal and the place of his accommodation and return, up to a distance of 30 km from either the city terminal or the airport.
Meal and Accommodation Breaks
The parties agree to establish procedures designed to provide Pilots with adequate refreshment and sustenance during the course of duty.
Where a Pilot overnights in the course of duty the Pilot shall receive the following allowances relevant to the time period through which the Pilot worked in excess of 30 minutes:
breakfast (6.00 am - 8.00 am) - $18.05;
lunch (12.00 pm - 2.00 pm) - $25.50; and
dinner (6.00 pm - 8.00 pm) - $35.80.
In addition an amount of $18.55 shall be paid for each overnight for incidental expenses.
Where Payment is made to the Pilot under this clause that Payment is in addition to the Pilot’s Pay specified in Clause 9.
Leave
A Pilot shall accrue 42 days of annual leave (inclusive of Saturday, Sunday and public holidays) for each completed year of service.
Unless otherwise agreed, annual leave shall be taken within 12 months of it falling due and ordinarily will be taken in at least two week blocks.
A Pilot shall be entitled to sick leave on account of personal illness or injury on the following basis:
Cumulative
On date of appointment 5 working days
On 1 July following date of appointment 5 working days pro rata to the period prior to 1 July
On each 1 July thereafter 15 working days
Sick leave shall be paid for absence on account of personal illness up to three days without the production of a medical certificate in any one year of service. For absences in excess of the prescribed number of days in any one year of service a certificate from a legally qualified medical practitioner shall be required.
Non-cumulative
(i) A Pilot shall be granted up to six working days per annum for sickness associated with upper respiratory tract infection (URTI). Any three days may be taken without the production of a medical certificate. The remaining three days must be supported by a specific medical certificate.
Insurance
Loss of licence Insurance
The employer shall insure all its Pilots against loss of licence. The amount of such insurance premium shall be up to $1,800. If the Company does not provide loss of licence insurance, the Pilots are entitled to be reimbursed for any costs incurred for loss of licence insurance on production of receipts up to $1,800. This reimbursement will only be paid if loss of licence insurance is purchased by the Pilot.
Aircraft accident insurance
(i) The employer shall insure each Pilot for aircraft accident insurance for a death benefit of not less than $300,000 provided that such death occurs whilst flying, or passenger on any aircraft in a manner recognised by the employer and the Pilot as being associated with the employment of the Pilot and the benefit shall be paid expeditiously.
(ii) This benefit is inclusive of workers' compensation and carrier liability insurance entitlements.
Uniforms
The employer shall provide each Pilot with a uniform and shall from time to time replace the same as may be necessary as a result of fair wear and tear on duty or at the employer's discretion, provide an adequate monetary allowance in lieu of such uniform or the replacement of any part thereof. The Pilot shall keep the same in good order and condition and shall be liable for the replacement cost of the same if such replacement shall become necessary otherwise than as a result of fair wear and tear whilst on or traveling to or from duty.
Hours of Service
Normal maximum Flight and duty hours in any roster period shall be in accordance with the CAO Part 48 and any applicable exemption as agreed between the Union and the employer.
In each roster period Pilots shall receive at home base nine days off in ten roster periods each year and eight days off in the remaining two roster periods. These days will be allocated in groups of at least two, except for roster periods with nine days off, where one may be a single day. Pilots may request single days off in any roster period.
Where duty inadvertently breaches a rostered day off a replacement day off will be provided if requested.
Preparation of Rosters
Rosters will be prepared by the employer in consultation with the Union.
Rosters will incorporate all known duties including licence renewal and training requirements and will be constructed to produce a safe, fair and equitable distribution of duty.
The employer, the Union and the Pilots will discuss any rostering arrangements which will result in more efficient rosters and will endeavor to maximise flying time for all Pilots.
Rosters will be provided at least seven days prior to the commencement of the new roster period.
Scheduling Rules
Displacement
A Pilot may be displaced at the direction of the employer from a Flight series of Flights or a complete roster by:
(1) cancellation, substitution or rescheduling,
(2) operational requirements.
A Pilot rostered for duty, shall not relinquish such duty, except as otherwise agreed.
Where a Pilot has signed on for duty for a Flight and that Flight is cancelled, through no fault of the Pilot, then the Company will Pay to the Pilot, the greater of 2 hours at the applicable Flight Pay rate or the Pay for alternative Flight duty performed.
Where Payment is made to the Pilot under this clause that Payment is in addition to the Pilot’s Pay specified in Clause 9.
Reserve Duty
General Preference for Open Flying, Rather than Reserve Duty
The Company's general preference is not to use reserve duty arrangements, but rather to meet operational requirements by allocating open flying to Pilots who have indicated a preference for additional flying in accordance with Clause 21.
However, the Company reserves the right to place Pilots on reserve duty.
Reserve
Pilots on reserve duty will be contactable at all times specified in advance by the employer. Such periods will be rostered and will meet CAO requirements, subject to any applicable exemption. Pilots rostered for reserve will be advised of the period of reserve no later than the day prior to the rostered reserve day.
Reserve Pilots called out for duty must sign on at the airport as soon as possible but not later than 120 minutes after receiving the call out.
A Pilot assigned to reserve duty must notify the employer immediately the Pilot is unable to provide coverage because of illness. Advice to the employer of an illness when called out for duty will generally not be recognised as compliance with this paragraph.
Pilots on reserve duty may be re-assigned other duties as required for operational reasons or to cover additional open flying.
Reserve duty shall not exceed 12 hours.
Pay Rate For Reserve Duty and Stand-By
Pilots on reserve duty or standby will be paid at the rate of $100 per hour for Captains and $60 for First Officers (“Reserve Pay”, in each case up to a maximum of 4 hours in any 24 hour period.
Where the Pilot is required to perform flying duties whilst on reserve duty, the Pilot shall be paid the greater of Payment in accordance with this clause or the Pay for Flight time at Flight Pay Rate.
Where Reserve Pay is paid to the Pilot that Payment is in addition to the Pilot’s Pay specified in Clause 9.
Open Flying
The Company may assign open flying to a Pilot on any day other than a rostered day off.
Open flying will be available first to all Pilots who indicate their preference for additional flying and open flying will be allocated to such Pilots by the Company.
Open flying will be available second to all Pilots on reserve and the Company will allocate open flying to such Pilots.
Open flying will be available next to Pilots other than those on a rostered day off.
The Company may then request a Pilot who is rostered off and who has not indicated their preference for additional flying or been placed on reserve, to perform open flying and the Pilot shall not unreasonably refuse that request. Where a Pilot is requested to perform open flying in these circumstances, and accepts, the Pilot will receive $200 for the day and an additional rostered day off. The $200 Payment is in addition to the Pilot’s Pay specified in Clause 9.
Company Briefing Days
Each Pilot will make him or herself available for the maximum of two Company Briefing Days in each financial year. Such days will be used for matters such as corporate education and corporate training). These Company Briefing Days do not apply to any aviation regulator required training.
The Company will nominate dates for which these courses are programmed and Pilots will be rostered to attend a particular course.
Attendance at these days will not count towards accrual of any Flight Pay.
Transition (Subject to Avoiding Duplication and Checking Consistency with Part A)
Transferee Pilots classified as First Officers shall be paid 65% of the amount payable for a Captain specified in clauses 9, 10, 11, 19, 20 and 21.
Transferee Pilots are not required to give any bond as set out in clause 5(e).
Transferee Pilots are not subject to the probationary period referred to in clause 5(a). The Company may not terminate the employment of a Transferee Pilot without providing either one month’s notice in writing or payment in lieu of notice.
Transferee Pilots who are not A320 Pilots shall be paid 80% of the Minimum Salary Rate for their classification, payable in equal monthly installments in arrears, and shall not be entitled to Flight Pay until they are cleared to the line. This sub-clause will expire 9 months after the Company commences airline operations.
Transferee Pilots are entitled to all Transferred Entitlements as defined in the Agreement.
A Transferee Pilot is entitled to take, or on cessation of employment is entitled to receive Pay in lieu of, all Transferred Annual Leave and Transferred Long Service Leave at the same monetary value as he or she had accrued with Ansett Australia Limited as at 12 September 2001 (“Transfer Date”.
A Transferee Pilot is entitled to take all Transferred Sick Leave at the same monetary value as he or she had accrued with Ansett Australia Limited as at the Transfer Date.
On redundancy, Transferee Pilots are entitled to severance pay calculated as follows:
For the period up to the Transfer Date, the Transferred Severance Payment at the same monetary value to which he or she was entitled with Ansett Australia Limited as at the Transfer Date;
For the period after the Transfer Date, the severance pay set out in Part A of the Ansett Collective Bargaining Agreement 2001.
Find following........
PILOTS APPENDIX
Arrangement
1. Arrangement 1
2. Incidence 2
3. Title 2
4. Definitions 2
5. Contract of Employment 3
6. Flexibility & Dispute Resolution 4
7. Dispute settlement 5
8. Promotion and Appointments 6
9. Pay Rates 6
10. Paid Leave 8
11. Ground Duties and Deadhead Travel 8
12. Transfer Costs 8
13. Accommodation and Allowances 8
14. Leave 9
15. Insurance 9
16. Uniforms 10
17. Hours of Service 10
18. Preparation of Rosters 10
19. Scheduling Rules 11
20. Reserve Duty 11
21. Open Flying 12
22. Company Briefing Days 12
23. Transition (Subject to Avoiding Duplication and Checking Consistency with Part A) 12
Incidence
This Appendix shall be binding on Queenscross Pty Ltd (trading as Ansett Australia) ("the Company" or "employer") in respect of all Pilots employed by the Company.
Title
This Appendix shall be known as the Pilots Appendix.
Definitions
"Assign" means the allocation of duty to a Pilot by the employer.
"Base" means the geographical location at which Pilots are domiciled in accordance with the employer's requirements.
"CAO Part 48" means a direction made under the Civil Aviation Act 1988 (“CAA”
about Flight and duty times and issued as a civil aviation order."Captain" means a Pilot who is appointed as a captain by the employer and who is currently licensed by the Civil Aviation and Safety Authority (“CASA”
to act in command of an aircraft."Cleared to the line" means that a Pilot has completed all training associated with a type endorsement and has been approved by flying operations headquarters to fly with any other line Pilot.
("Deadhead travel" means all travel performed at the direction of the employer not associated with the actual operation of the aircraft.
"Duty period" means all time on duty in accordance with Civil Aviation Orders (“CAO”
and this Appendix."First officer" means a Pilot who is appointed as a first officer by the employer and who is currently licensed by CASA to act as second or third in command of an aircraft requiring two or more Pilots or act as Pilot in command of a one Pilot aircraft.
"Flight time" means the time between the earlier of start up or push back and shut down on each sector flown by the Pilot as an operating crew member.
"Flight time limitations" means limitation in accordance with CAO Part 48 or any exemptions agreed with the Union and approved thereunder.
“Ground Duties” means non-Flight duties, within the skill and competencies of a Pilot.
"Intake Pilot" means a Pilot appointed by the Company until the Pilot is first cleared to the line. While an Intake Pilot, the Pilot will be on probation and for such further period in accordance with clause 5(a).
"Pilot" shall have the meaning, ascribed to that expression in clause 1 of schedule 1 of the Workplace Relations Act 1996.
"Roster period" means, unless varied by agreement between the employer and its Pilots, a complete financial month for the purpose of pay and Flight time limitations, except that:
in any leap year, the months of January and February shall be divided into 30 day periods being from 1 to 30 January inclusive and from 31 January to 29 February inclusive; and
in all other years the months of January, February and March shall be divided into three 30 day periods being from 1 to 30 January inclusive, 31 January to 1 March inclusive and 2 March to 31 March inclusive.
"Roster" means a Pilot's scheduled arrangement of work for a roster period.
"Sign on time" means, the rostered sign on time for duty by an operating Pilot where Flight duty is involved, which shall be not less than 45 minutes prior to the scheduled departure time of the Flight. Where deadhead is the only duty, or if deadhead immediately precedes Flight duty and the planned transit time is greater than 60 minutes, sign on shall be 30 minutes prior to the scheduled departure time. Where transit time prior to Flight duty is less than 60 minutes, sign on shall be 45 minutes prior to departure time.
"Sign off time" means the time of completion of all duties associated with a tour of duty and shall be not less than fifteen minutes after the actual aircraft arrival time where Flight duty or deadhead is involved, not less than fifteen minutes after duty, associated with a licence renewal and not less than 60 minutes after an overseas operation involving a customs clearance.
"Time" means, except where mentioned, local time.
"Training Pilot" means a Pilot who is appointed by the employer to perform in-flight instruction and/or carry out any training of any nature.
“Transferee Pilot” means a Pilot who was employed by Ansett Australia Limited immediately prior to commencing employment with the Company.
"Union" means the Ansett Pilots Association or successor or substituted body.
Contract of Employment
The services of a Pilot shall be terminable by either the employer or a Pilot:
during the first six months of service, which shall be a probationary period, by seven days notice in writing;
after the completion of six months of service, by one month's notice in writing;
by the payment to the Pilot of seven days or one month's salary in lieu of notice as aforesaid;
nothing in this Appendix shall derogate from the employer's right at common law to summarily dismiss a Pilot for misconduct, negligence or other sufficient cause.
Notwithstanding anything herein contained to the contrary, the employer shall have the right to hold a Pilot out of service on the Minimum Salary Rate during an investigation into an accident or incident in which the Pilot may have been involved. The employer shall ensure that the time involved in the investigation is kept to a minimum.
Where the investigation reveals that the accident or incident justifies instant dismissal, the Pilot may be required to repay any and all salary paid from the commencement of the investigation, but the rate of repayment per month shall not exceed 50% of the Pilot's monthly Pay calculated on one -twelfth of the Minimum Salary Rate.
Where the investigation reveals that the Pilot was not at fault, the Company will Pay to the Pilot the difference between the Pilot’s Pay calculated at the Minimum Salary Rate and the flight hours rostered to be worked during the suspension period.
Pilots shall not fly an aircraft during their employment except in the service of the employer unless the employer otherwise consents in writing.
The employer shall be entitled to deduct from the pay due to the Pilot any overpayment made within the preceding 6 months of salary or any unauthorised expense paid by the employer on behalf of the Pilot or any balance outstanding of any advance of money made by or on behalf of the employer to the Pilot only after notification to the Pilot in writing.
The employer may require an Intake Pilot to enter into a bond of $25,000 not to engage in employment as a Pilot with another employer for the period of five years. In the event that a Pilot resigns from the Company or is dismissed for cause the amount Payable under the bond shall relate to the unexpired period of the bond. If the Pilot’s employment ceases for any other reason the Pilot shall not be required to Pay the bond.
If, for reasons of incapacity, a Pilot cannot perform his employment duties for six or more months the employer may bring employment to an end.
The employer will indemnify and release Pilots against all claims and demands made against them by any person (including the employer, employees of the employer, passengers of the employer and legal personal representatives), where the claim or demand is made as a result of injury or loss to a person or property as a result of a Pilot’s negligence in performing his or her duties in the course of his or her employment except where such injury or loss was caused wilfully by the Pilot unless the injury or loss was beyond the Pilot’s control.
In addition, the employer will provide legal counsel and defend Pilots and their estates in any legal actions arising in connection with the performance of their duties, and indemnify them and hold them harmless from any judgement arising from such legal action.
Employment will be in the Company unless otherwise agreed.
Flexibility & Dispute Resolution
Object of this clause of the Appendix
The object of this clause of the Appendix is to provide for mechanisms in which disputes and other matters relating to the operation of this Appendix are resolved at the enterprise level as quickly and as efficiently as possible.
Partners in Business Success
The Company will establish a Workplace Relations Committee ("WRC") to oversee the flexible application of this Appendix to meet the vision of the business. Whilst the composition of the WRC will vary over time with the size, structure and needs of the business, it will initially comprise a captain and a first officer who will be selected by the Union and a similar number of management representatives determined by The Company.
The primary roles of the WRC are:
to decide how to handle challenges and changed circumstances that may arise due to the growth of the business;
to oversee the operation of the facilitative provisions of this Appendix; and
to act as the occupational health and safety committee, as required by legislation.
Facilitative Provisions
The standard approach in this Appendix may be departed from by agreement between the Company and an employee or the WRC, as appropriate. However, where other provisions of this Appendix specify that the agreement of the Union is required, then those provisions will prevail.
The following is an inclusive list of the facilitative provisions and the level of agreement required:
Subject Matter Clause Level of Agreement
Leave 14 Individual
Part-time work Individual and WRC
Salaries (in relation to salary packaging) 9 Individual or WRC
Overnight accommodation and transport for employed Pilots 13 WRC
Annual leave rostering 14 WRC
Contacting Pilots 20 WRC
Facilitative agreements will be recorded in writing and be available on request.
(d) Dispute Resolution
If any dispute or difficulty arises over the implementation or continued operation of a facilitative provision, the matter will be handled in accordance with the dispute settlement procedure in Clause 7 of this Appendix.
Dispute settlement
Any disputes arising from this Agreement shall be determined pursuant to the following procedure:
The matter will be first discussed between the aggrieved Pilot and the relevant supervisory person at the Pilot’s Base.
If not settled, the matter will be discussed between the aggrieved Pilot and a more senior level of management, or their nominee, and a Union representative or Pilot nominated representative if requested.
If not settled, the matter may be submitted to the Australian Industrial Relations Commission for conciliation and arbitration. The Commission’s decision will, subject to any appeal in accordance with the Workplace Relations Act (1996), be final and will be accepted by the parties.
Until the matter is resolved, work shall continue normally. No party shall be prejudiced as to the final settlement by continuance of work in accordance with this sub-clause.
Promotion and Appointments
Promotion from First Officer to Captain and from one aircraft type to another shall be based upon merit, having regard to matters including qualifications and experience.
The Company and the Union shall determine appropriate merit based criteria for promotion.
Management Pilots, Check Captains and Training Pilots shall be appointed by the Company.
Management Pilots and Check Captains may be offered individual contracts that are no less favorable in the aggregate than the terms and conditions of this Appendix. If a Pilot accepts such a contract, the terms and conditions of this Appendix will not apply. Normal maximum Flight and duty hours in any roster period shall be in accordance with the CAO Part 48 and any applicable exemption as agreed between the Union and the employer.
If a Check Captain ceases to hold that position, this Appendix will apply.
A Management Pilot who wishes to return to the line may elect to do so and the terms of this Appendix will apply.
For the purposes of this clause, “Management Pilot” means a Pilot other than a line Pilot who is appointed to perform predominantly management duties.
The number of Pilots appointed as Management Pilots shall not constitute more than 20% of the total number of Pilots engaged by the Company unless agreed with the Union.
A Pilot’s initial appointment as a Training Pilot shall be for a minimum period of one month. Any further appointment shall be for a minimum period of three months.
Pay Rates
Pilots cleared to the line shall be paid the following rate of pay for each hour of Flight time (“Flight Pay”
:Classifications
Captain $200.00 per hour
First Officer: 60% of Captain's salary $120.00 per hour
The Company aims to maximise flying time for all Pilots, and will be seeking Pilots to fly at least 700 hours per annum.
Notwithstanding the hourly rate set out in sub-clause (a) above, and subject to a Pilot being ready, willing and available to work, each full time Pilot cleared to the line is guaranteed a minimum annual salary of not less than:
$110,000.00 per annum for a Captain; and
$66,000 per annum for a First Officer
("the Minimum Salary Rate").
Pilots will be paid monthly in arrears, and Pilots cleared to the line will be paid the greater of:
For Captains - $7,500 and for First Officers - $4,500; or
the Pilot’s monthly Flight time multiplied by the Pilot’s Flight Pay.
If, at the end of each financial year, a Pilot has received less than the Minimum Salary Rate (not excluding any periods of unpaid leave), the Pilot must be paid the difference between the Minimum Salary Rate and what has been received. The relevant amounts will be calculated on a pro-rata basis for periods of service less than twelve monthly in the financial year.
Training Pilots shall be paid an additional 8.5% of the salary rate prescribed in this clause.
After 12 months, the parties will conduct a joint review to consider whether the minimum monthly pay can be increased consistently with the objective of earning the Minimum Salary Rate of $110,000 based on $200 per Flight hour is met. If Pilots are regularly being rostered more than 45.83 hours per roster then the pay rate in sub-clause 9(d)(i) will be increased to 1/12 of the Minimum Salary Rate.
The joint review will also consider the pay rates in this Appendix having regard to:
the profitability of the Company;
retention rates within the Company; and
other matters.
Intake Pilots will be paid monthly in arrears at an annual rate of First Officer $25,166.
Salaries shall be paid monthly by electronic fund transfer to the Pilot's nominated account at a recognised financial institution.
Where a Captain is required to perform the duties of a First Officer on the aircraft type currently flown the appropriate Captain's salary shall continue to be paid.
A Pilot may nominate their own choice of complying superannuation fund and the Company will make all applicable superannuation payments on behalf of the Pilot to that fund.
The pay rates referred to in this clause are only applicable to Pilots who fly aircraft in the Airbus A320 family (including variants A318, A319, A320 and A321). The Pay rates for Pilots who fly any other aircraft types are reserved.
Paid Leave
For the purposes of annual leave and long service leave, the rate of pay will be the greater of a monthly rate of one-twelfth of the Minimum Salary Rate or Flight Pay multiplied by the Pilot’s average of Flight time during the period of twelve roster periods (pro rata for employment of less than twelve roster periods) immediately preceding commencement of the leave at the rate of Pay applicable at the time of taking leave. Any period of leave will not be included in the twelve roster periods for the calculation of Pay.
Sick leave will be paid at a rate of one-twelfth of the Minimum Salary Rate.
Where paid leave is paid to the Pilot that payment is instead of the Pilot’s applicable Pay specified in sub-clause 9(d).
Ground Duties and Deadhead Travel
A Training Pilot who conducts a ground training program during the roster period will be credited with the average number of Flight hours flown by line Pilots of the same rank during the period of the ground training program.
Any deadhead travel required in excess of 5 hours in any roster period and any deadhead travel required in excess of 50 hours in any financial year shall be paid at the rate of 50% of the Flight Pay rate.
Where Pay for deadhead travel is paid to the Pilot that Payment is in addition to the Pilot’s Pay specified in Clause 9.
Transfer Costs
A Pilot when transferring from one base to another at employer direction shall be entitled to receive Payment from the employer for reasonable expenses incurred for the removal of furniture, possessions and personal effects.
Accommodation and Allowances
Pilots on duty, away from home base, will be provided with accommodation of an adequate standard conducive to rest and following discussions with the Union.
Transport will be provided from the airport to/from the place of accommodation. Where a Pilot advises at least 36 hours in advance of sign on, or upon notification by the employer of the assigned flying, whichever occurs last, of intent not to use accommodation arranged in accordance with this clause, the Pilot shall:
receive an allowance of $60.00 for each occasion such accommodation is cancelled, or
have provided by the employers, transport by taxi or hired car, or the cost thereof, between the air terminal and the place of his accommodation and return, up to a distance of 30 km from either the city terminal or the airport.
Meal and Accommodation Breaks
The parties agree to establish procedures designed to provide Pilots with adequate refreshment and sustenance during the course of duty.
Where a Pilot overnights in the course of duty the Pilot shall receive the following allowances relevant to the time period through which the Pilot worked in excess of 30 minutes:
breakfast (6.00 am - 8.00 am) - $18.05;
lunch (12.00 pm - 2.00 pm) - $25.50; and
dinner (6.00 pm - 8.00 pm) - $35.80.
In addition an amount of $18.55 shall be paid for each overnight for incidental expenses.
Where Payment is made to the Pilot under this clause that Payment is in addition to the Pilot’s Pay specified in Clause 9.
Leave
A Pilot shall accrue 42 days of annual leave (inclusive of Saturday, Sunday and public holidays) for each completed year of service.
Unless otherwise agreed, annual leave shall be taken within 12 months of it falling due and ordinarily will be taken in at least two week blocks.
A Pilot shall be entitled to sick leave on account of personal illness or injury on the following basis:
Cumulative
On date of appointment 5 working days
On 1 July following date of appointment 5 working days pro rata to the period prior to 1 July
On each 1 July thereafter 15 working days
Sick leave shall be paid for absence on account of personal illness up to three days without the production of a medical certificate in any one year of service. For absences in excess of the prescribed number of days in any one year of service a certificate from a legally qualified medical practitioner shall be required.
Non-cumulative
(i) A Pilot shall be granted up to six working days per annum for sickness associated with upper respiratory tract infection (URTI). Any three days may be taken without the production of a medical certificate. The remaining three days must be supported by a specific medical certificate.
Insurance
Loss of licence Insurance
The employer shall insure all its Pilots against loss of licence. The amount of such insurance premium shall be up to $1,800. If the Company does not provide loss of licence insurance, the Pilots are entitled to be reimbursed for any costs incurred for loss of licence insurance on production of receipts up to $1,800. This reimbursement will only be paid if loss of licence insurance is purchased by the Pilot.
Aircraft accident insurance
(i) The employer shall insure each Pilot for aircraft accident insurance for a death benefit of not less than $300,000 provided that such death occurs whilst flying, or passenger on any aircraft in a manner recognised by the employer and the Pilot as being associated with the employment of the Pilot and the benefit shall be paid expeditiously.
(ii) This benefit is inclusive of workers' compensation and carrier liability insurance entitlements.
Uniforms
The employer shall provide each Pilot with a uniform and shall from time to time replace the same as may be necessary as a result of fair wear and tear on duty or at the employer's discretion, provide an adequate monetary allowance in lieu of such uniform or the replacement of any part thereof. The Pilot shall keep the same in good order and condition and shall be liable for the replacement cost of the same if such replacement shall become necessary otherwise than as a result of fair wear and tear whilst on or traveling to or from duty.
Hours of Service
Normal maximum Flight and duty hours in any roster period shall be in accordance with the CAO Part 48 and any applicable exemption as agreed between the Union and the employer.
In each roster period Pilots shall receive at home base nine days off in ten roster periods each year and eight days off in the remaining two roster periods. These days will be allocated in groups of at least two, except for roster periods with nine days off, where one may be a single day. Pilots may request single days off in any roster period.
Where duty inadvertently breaches a rostered day off a replacement day off will be provided if requested.
Preparation of Rosters
Rosters will be prepared by the employer in consultation with the Union.
Rosters will incorporate all known duties including licence renewal and training requirements and will be constructed to produce a safe, fair and equitable distribution of duty.
The employer, the Union and the Pilots will discuss any rostering arrangements which will result in more efficient rosters and will endeavor to maximise flying time for all Pilots.
Rosters will be provided at least seven days prior to the commencement of the new roster period.
Scheduling Rules
Displacement
A Pilot may be displaced at the direction of the employer from a Flight series of Flights or a complete roster by:
(1) cancellation, substitution or rescheduling,
(2) operational requirements.
A Pilot rostered for duty, shall not relinquish such duty, except as otherwise agreed.
Where a Pilot has signed on for duty for a Flight and that Flight is cancelled, through no fault of the Pilot, then the Company will Pay to the Pilot, the greater of 2 hours at the applicable Flight Pay rate or the Pay for alternative Flight duty performed.
Where Payment is made to the Pilot under this clause that Payment is in addition to the Pilot’s Pay specified in Clause 9.
Reserve Duty
General Preference for Open Flying, Rather than Reserve Duty
The Company's general preference is not to use reserve duty arrangements, but rather to meet operational requirements by allocating open flying to Pilots who have indicated a preference for additional flying in accordance with Clause 21.
However, the Company reserves the right to place Pilots on reserve duty.
Reserve
Pilots on reserve duty will be contactable at all times specified in advance by the employer. Such periods will be rostered and will meet CAO requirements, subject to any applicable exemption. Pilots rostered for reserve will be advised of the period of reserve no later than the day prior to the rostered reserve day.
Reserve Pilots called out for duty must sign on at the airport as soon as possible but not later than 120 minutes after receiving the call out.
A Pilot assigned to reserve duty must notify the employer immediately the Pilot is unable to provide coverage because of illness. Advice to the employer of an illness when called out for duty will generally not be recognised as compliance with this paragraph.
Pilots on reserve duty may be re-assigned other duties as required for operational reasons or to cover additional open flying.
Reserve duty shall not exceed 12 hours.
Pay Rate For Reserve Duty and Stand-By
Pilots on reserve duty or standby will be paid at the rate of $100 per hour for Captains and $60 for First Officers (“Reserve Pay”
, in each case up to a maximum of 4 hours in any 24 hour period. Where the Pilot is required to perform flying duties whilst on reserve duty, the Pilot shall be paid the greater of Payment in accordance with this clause or the Pay for Flight time at Flight Pay Rate.
Where Reserve Pay is paid to the Pilot that Payment is in addition to the Pilot’s Pay specified in Clause 9.
Open Flying
The Company may assign open flying to a Pilot on any day other than a rostered day off.
Open flying will be available first to all Pilots who indicate their preference for additional flying and open flying will be allocated to such Pilots by the Company.
Open flying will be available second to all Pilots on reserve and the Company will allocate open flying to such Pilots.
Open flying will be available next to Pilots other than those on a rostered day off.
The Company may then request a Pilot who is rostered off and who has not indicated their preference for additional flying or been placed on reserve, to perform open flying and the Pilot shall not unreasonably refuse that request. Where a Pilot is requested to perform open flying in these circumstances, and accepts, the Pilot will receive $200 for the day and an additional rostered day off. The $200 Payment is in addition to the Pilot’s Pay specified in Clause 9.
Company Briefing Days
Each Pilot will make him or herself available for the maximum of two Company Briefing Days in each financial year. Such days will be used for matters such as corporate education and corporate training). These Company Briefing Days do not apply to any aviation regulator required training.
The Company will nominate dates for which these courses are programmed and Pilots will be rostered to attend a particular course.
Attendance at these days will not count towards accrual of any Flight Pay.
Transition (Subject to Avoiding Duplication and Checking Consistency with Part A)
Transferee Pilots classified as First Officers shall be paid 65% of the amount payable for a Captain specified in clauses 9, 10, 11, 19, 20 and 21.
Transferee Pilots are not required to give any bond as set out in clause 5(e).
Transferee Pilots are not subject to the probationary period referred to in clause 5(a). The Company may not terminate the employment of a Transferee Pilot without providing either one month’s notice in writing or payment in lieu of notice.
Transferee Pilots who are not A320 Pilots shall be paid 80% of the Minimum Salary Rate for their classification, payable in equal monthly installments in arrears, and shall not be entitled to Flight Pay until they are cleared to the line. This sub-clause will expire 9 months after the Company commences airline operations.
Transferee Pilots are entitled to all Transferred Entitlements as defined in the Agreement.
A Transferee Pilot is entitled to take, or on cessation of employment is entitled to receive Pay in lieu of, all Transferred Annual Leave and Transferred Long Service Leave at the same monetary value as he or she had accrued with Ansett Australia Limited as at 12 September 2001 (“Transfer Date”
.A Transferee Pilot is entitled to take all Transferred Sick Leave at the same monetary value as he or she had accrued with Ansett Australia Limited as at the Transfer Date.
On redundancy, Transferee Pilots are entitled to severance pay calculated as follows:
For the period up to the Transfer Date, the Transferred Severance Payment at the same monetary value to which he or she was entitled with Ansett Australia Limited as at the Transfer Date;
For the period after the Transfer Date, the severance pay set out in Part A of the Ansett Collective Bargaining Agreement 2001.
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Thanks lame
Didn't mean to put you to all that trouble posting the award again.
There was another thread titled "The new Ansett pilot's pay rates" which seems to have disappeared. I don't think it was one you initiated.
Anyhow.....so be it.
Didn't mean to put you to all that trouble posting the award again.
There was another thread titled "The new Ansett pilot's pay rates" which seems to have disappeared. I don't think it was one you initiated.
Anyhow.....so be it.
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FSU - the super payments are set at the super guarantee rate which is currently 8% and moves to 9% next year, as has been posted. What is forgotten however is that there is a cap on what the 8% is based on. That is currently $110k.
So for FOs, if they earn more than $110k, they will get super of 8% of the $110k. This could be a rise.
For captains however they will get 8% of $110k regardless. Which is a hell of a cut from their 10% of $150k base pay on the A320.
So for FOs, if they earn more than $110k, they will get super of 8% of the $110k. This could be a rise.
For captains however they will get 8% of $110k regardless. Which is a hell of a cut from their 10% of $150k base pay on the A320.
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Thanks lame,
Got your email with the award and other remarks. Pity some people would prefer to "shoot the messenger" when they are presented with facts they don't like.
Keep up the good work.
Got your email with the award and other remarks. Pity some people would prefer to "shoot the messenger" when they are presented with facts they don't like.
Keep up the good work.
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CallButton,
Thanks for the clarification. Does seem a bit of a reduction but when you consider the very real possibility of exceeding Retirement Benefit Limits and the effects of tax depredations later it is not a great reduction. It is better that funds be applied in another manner than have extra funds forced into an excess benefits situation.
Thanks for the clarification. Does seem a bit of a reduction but when you consider the very real possibility of exceeding Retirement Benefit Limits and the effects of tax depredations later it is not a great reduction. It is better that funds be applied in another manner than have extra funds forced into an excess benefits situation.
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An interesting article (I thought anyway), just found it on the Internet, it is from September 25th, but I hadn't seen before.
Do any of you have a problem with Bill Kelty being with the Fox/Lew team?
(QUOTE)
- NATIONAL
On Air Kelty, this is your pilot seething
By Brad Norington, Industrial Editor
Of all the suitors rumoured to be lining up as Ansett buyers, there is one that deserves a prize for nostalgia and quirky local flavour.
That's the consortium reportedly headed by former ACTU secretary Mr Bill Kelty and trucking magnate Mr Lindsay Fox.
Neither is confirming that he is a serious bidder among a short list of five potential buyers of Ansett's assets, or parts of them. But they have an interesting track record.
Mr Kelty floated the idea of running a "people's airline" in early 1995 when he led the ACTU, proposing a union-sponsored carrier offering cheap one-way fares as low as $69 on the Sydney-Melbourne route.
The idea was instantly dubbed "Air ACTU" and it disappeared without trace.
After Mr Kelty retired from the ACTU in February last year he joined the board of Mr Fox's road transport company, Linfox. It was not an unexpected move - the two men had forged a bond in the early 1990s on a travelling roadshow during the recession, in which they tried to tackle youth unemployment and revive regional development.
By all accounts, it was hard work and madcap humour as they toured regional Victoria in Mr Fox's Rolls-Royce.
Mr Fox's business is trucking, although he has strategic links with aviation. Linfox co-owns Essendon Airport, a specialist landing field for corporate jets and freight, and also owns Avalon Airport near Geelong, which runs freight and airline maintenance.
As a former union leader, Mr Kelty has good credentials to start recruiting staff for a new airline - with one exception. The most specialised group of people he would need are pilots, and pilots have little love for Mr Kelty.
During the 1989 pilots' dispute, Mr Kelty spurned the pilots' union and effectively allowed its collapse. How ironic it would be if he needed them now.
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Do any of you have a problem with Bill Kelty being with the Fox/Lew team?
(QUOTE)
- NATIONAL
On Air Kelty, this is your pilot seething
By Brad Norington, Industrial Editor
Of all the suitors rumoured to be lining up as Ansett buyers, there is one that deserves a prize for nostalgia and quirky local flavour.
That's the consortium reportedly headed by former ACTU secretary Mr Bill Kelty and trucking magnate Mr Lindsay Fox.
Neither is confirming that he is a serious bidder among a short list of five potential buyers of Ansett's assets, or parts of them. But they have an interesting track record.
Mr Kelty floated the idea of running a "people's airline" in early 1995 when he led the ACTU, proposing a union-sponsored carrier offering cheap one-way fares as low as $69 on the Sydney-Melbourne route.
The idea was instantly dubbed "Air ACTU" and it disappeared without trace.
After Mr Kelty retired from the ACTU in February last year he joined the board of Mr Fox's road transport company, Linfox. It was not an unexpected move - the two men had forged a bond in the early 1990s on a travelling roadshow during the recession, in which they tried to tackle youth unemployment and revive regional development.
By all accounts, it was hard work and madcap humour as they toured regional Victoria in Mr Fox's Rolls-Royce.
Mr Fox's business is trucking, although he has strategic links with aviation. Linfox co-owns Essendon Airport, a specialist landing field for corporate jets and freight, and also owns Avalon Airport near Geelong, which runs freight and airline maintenance.
As a former union leader, Mr Kelty has good credentials to start recruiting staff for a new airline - with one exception. The most specialised group of people he would need are pilots, and pilots have little love for Mr Kelty.
During the 1989 pilots' dispute, Mr Kelty spurned the pilots' union and effectively allowed its collapse. How ironic it would be if he needed them now.
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Moderate, Modest & Mild.
ANSETT=Abeles/Murdoch....Labor(Hawke)=ACTU(Kelty)
ANSETT=Fox....ACTU (Kelty)=Labor(Crean)
ANSETT employees are one of the ACTU's single biggest representative groups in the Transport industry - the pilots having been the one noted exception during industrial action.
Take a look at WHERE the ALP's past and present leaders have been cultivated (ACTU), and by WHOM, and the synergistic relationship is entirely transparent.
Ansett's survival is critical to some BIG forces in Oz.
Similarly, the Lang/Corrigan bid is at the other end of the spectrum - a strongly anti-union force.
Wouldn't we ALL just love to know what WHEELING-DEALING has been going on behind the political curtains!
The re-submission of the Lang-Corrigan proposal MUST have been some sort of play from the Howard team to force a contentious issue!!
Or am I just being TOO cynical??
ANSETT=Fox....ACTU (Kelty)=Labor(Crean)
ANSETT employees are one of the ACTU's single biggest representative groups in the Transport industry - the pilots having been the one noted exception during industrial action.
Take a look at WHERE the ALP's past and present leaders have been cultivated (ACTU), and by WHOM, and the synergistic relationship is entirely transparent.
Ansett's survival is critical to some BIG forces in Oz.
Similarly, the Lang/Corrigan bid is at the other end of the spectrum - a strongly anti-union force.
Wouldn't we ALL just love to know what WHEELING-DEALING has been going on behind the political curtains!
The re-submission of the Lang-Corrigan proposal MUST have been some sort of play from the Howard team to force a contentious issue!!
Or am I just being TOO cynical??