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Government now says this bloke was training in Australia in 1997/1998. Sound familiar to anyone?
From abc.net.au/news 06/12/01:
Al Qaeda planned suicide attacks in Australia: India
Foreign Minister Alexander Downer has expressed concern about a man who was arrested in India and has reportedly confessed to planning suicide attacks in Australia.
A senior Indian minister says a man arrested on suspicion of being linked with Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda network has told authorities of plans to carry out suicide attacks in Australia.
Home Minister LK Advani told a meeting of business and industry leaders in New Delhi that the man had intended to organise suicide attacks in Britain, Australia and India after September 11.
"We arrested this person about a month ago in Mumbai and he made some very shocking confessions," Mr Advani said.
"The Al Qaeda had plans to not only attack the United States but also for similar attacks on Britain, Australia and the Indian parliament."
Mr Downer has told Channel Seven it should not be dismissed.
"I understand that his claim, that he wanted to conduct suicide attacks against a number of countries including Australia, is a claim that he believes," Mr Downer said.
"I don't think this is a hoax or should be treated as a hoax.
"I think these are claims that need to be taken seriously - we can be grateful for the fact that he has been arrested by Indian authorities."
Mr Advani says the arrested man claims he learnt to fly planes in Australia and in Britain.
"We have been able to verify the information and confirm it. So there is truth to what he has said," Mr Advani said.
The home minister did not give details about the nationality of the arrested man, but said the information given by him revealed a major global conspiracy by Al Qaeda.
From abc.net.au/news 06/12/01:
Al Qaeda planned suicide attacks in Australia: India
Foreign Minister Alexander Downer has expressed concern about a man who was arrested in India and has reportedly confessed to planning suicide attacks in Australia.
A senior Indian minister says a man arrested on suspicion of being linked with Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda network has told authorities of plans to carry out suicide attacks in Australia.
Home Minister LK Advani told a meeting of business and industry leaders in New Delhi that the man had intended to organise suicide attacks in Britain, Australia and India after September 11.
"We arrested this person about a month ago in Mumbai and he made some very shocking confessions," Mr Advani said.
"The Al Qaeda had plans to not only attack the United States but also for similar attacks on Britain, Australia and the Indian parliament."
Mr Downer has told Channel Seven it should not be dismissed.
"I understand that his claim, that he wanted to conduct suicide attacks against a number of countries including Australia, is a claim that he believes," Mr Downer said.
"I don't think this is a hoax or should be treated as a hoax.
"I think these are claims that need to be taken seriously - we can be grateful for the fact that he has been arrested by Indian authorities."
Mr Advani says the arrested man claims he learnt to fly planes in Australia and in Britain.
"We have been able to verify the information and confirm it. So there is truth to what he has said," Mr Advani said.
The home minister did not give details about the nationality of the arrested man, but said the information given by him revealed a major global conspiracy by Al Qaeda.
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From above: >>Mr Downer said: "I understand that his claim, that he wanted to conduct suicide attacks against a number of countries including Australia, is a claim that he believes,".
Is it just me, or can any one els see the flaw in a plan that attempts to perform a suicide attack a number of times?
KAOS, grab a beer and chill, your head might explode with all that crap coming out of it.
Is it just me, or can any one els see the flaw in a plan that attempts to perform a suicide attack a number of times?
KAOS, grab a beer and chill, your head might explode with all that crap coming out of it.
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Terrorist suspect trained in Australia
From AAP
06dec01
A MAN arrested in India who claimed he intended to carry out suicide attacks in Australia underwent pilot training in Australia in 1997 and 1998, federal Attorney-General Daryl Williams has said.
Mr Williams said the man was not an Australian citizen but would not say what nationality he was.
He also declined to release details of the air training school where the man took lessons.
"I have had a briefing from ASIO (the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation) this morning in relation to the man in custody in India," he said.
"We have confirmed that the man in custody in India undertook pilot training in Australia in 1997 and 1998 and he left Australia in December 1998 and has not returned.
"He claims that he undertook that training for terrorist purposes.
"However we haven't been able to confirm the veracity of that claim. "The matter is still under investigation."
Earlier today Indian Home Minister LK Advani said a man thought to be linked to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network was arrested in Bombay.
He had made "very shocking confessions", including that "the al Qaeda had plans to not only attack the United States but also for similar attacks on Britain, Australia and the Indian parliament".
Mr Williams said: "We have been aware of claims that a group was training to undertake terrorist acts in the United Kingdom, India and Australia for some time.
"We have good liaison with intelligence agencies overseas and it is from that source that this information has been provided."
Mr Williams said the Government was not aware of any specific threat in relation to the man or any other person in Australia.
He said Australia remained on a heightened security alert as it had been since the terrorist attacks on the US on September 11.
"We are putting in place a range of measures we believe will assist in the war against terrorism," he said.
"There will shortly be going before the National Security Committee and the cabinet proposals for a range of different measures including new legislation to deal with terrorism threats."
Foreign Minister Alexander Downer this morning said the apparent confession proved Australia had to take security seriously.
"I don't think this is a hoax or should be treated as a hoax," he told the Seven Network's Sunrise program.
"I think these are claims that should be taken seriously.
"We can be grateful for the fact that he has been arrested by Indian authorities and it just simply underlines the point that we do live in very dangerous times and all countries have to be much more vigilant with their security."
From AAP
06dec01
A MAN arrested in India who claimed he intended to carry out suicide attacks in Australia underwent pilot training in Australia in 1997 and 1998, federal Attorney-General Daryl Williams has said.
Mr Williams said the man was not an Australian citizen but would not say what nationality he was.
He also declined to release details of the air training school where the man took lessons.
"I have had a briefing from ASIO (the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation) this morning in relation to the man in custody in India," he said.
"We have confirmed that the man in custody in India undertook pilot training in Australia in 1997 and 1998 and he left Australia in December 1998 and has not returned.
"He claims that he undertook that training for terrorist purposes.
"However we haven't been able to confirm the veracity of that claim. "The matter is still under investigation."
Earlier today Indian Home Minister LK Advani said a man thought to be linked to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network was arrested in Bombay.
He had made "very shocking confessions", including that "the al Qaeda had plans to not only attack the United States but also for similar attacks on Britain, Australia and the Indian parliament".
Mr Williams said: "We have been aware of claims that a group was training to undertake terrorist acts in the United Kingdom, India and Australia for some time.
"We have good liaison with intelligence agencies overseas and it is from that source that this information has been provided."
Mr Williams said the Government was not aware of any specific threat in relation to the man or any other person in Australia.
He said Australia remained on a heightened security alert as it had been since the terrorist attacks on the US on September 11.
"We are putting in place a range of measures we believe will assist in the war against terrorism," he said.
"There will shortly be going before the National Security Committee and the cabinet proposals for a range of different measures including new legislation to deal with terrorism threats."
Foreign Minister Alexander Downer this morning said the apparent confession proved Australia had to take security seriously.
"I don't think this is a hoax or should be treated as a hoax," he told the Seven Network's Sunrise program.
"I think these are claims that should be taken seriously.
"We can be grateful for the fact that he has been arrested by Indian authorities and it just simply underlines the point that we do live in very dangerous times and all countries have to be much more vigilant with their security."
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'Urgent' flight training for 50 denied: report
From AAP
06dec01
UP to 50 middle-eastern men reportedly tried urgently to receive pilot training in South Australia 10 months ahead of the September 11 terror attacks, according to reports.
The allegations arose after a man arrested in India earlier today claimed he intended to carry out suicide attacks in Australia after undergoing pilot training in Australia in 1997 and 1998, federal Attorney-General Daryl Williams said.
SBS radio says it has obtained documents which show SA education department officials raised concerns about the mass application for flight training two weeks after the September 11 terrorist attack.
SBS says South Australian police, the premier's department and federal police were contacted soon after and the FBI was also alerted.
The request by the men to train at the Murray Bridge-based company last December was turned down by the education department because the men wanted the training to be completed urgently.
The head of the flight school confirmed to SBS that police are still looking at documents relating to the application.
SBS says it appears the men seeking the flight training then went to the US.
Earlie today Mr Williams said the man arrested in India was not an Australian citizen but would not say what nationality he was.
He also declined to release details of the air training school where the man took lessons.
"I have had a briefing from ASIO (the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation) this morning in relation to the man in custody in India," he said.
"We have confirmed that the man in custody in India undertook pilot training in Australia in 1997 and 1998 and he left Australia in December 1998 and has not returned.
"He claims that he undertook that training for terrorist purposes.
"However we haven't been able to confirm the veracity of that claim. "The matter is still under investigation."
Earlier, Indian Home Minister LK Advani said a man thought to be linked to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network was arrested in Bombay.
He had made "very shocking confessions", including that "the al Qaeda had plans to not only attack the United States but also for similar attacks on Britain, Australia and the Indian parliament".
Mr Williams said: "We have been aware of claims that a group was training to undertake terrorist acts in the United Kingdom, India and Australia for some time.
"We have good liaison with intelligence agencies overseas and it is from that source that this information has been provided."
Mr Williams said the Government was not aware of any specific threat in relation to the man or any other person in Australia.
He said Australia remained on a heightened security alert as it had been since the terrorist attacks on the US on September 11.
"We are putting in place a range of measures we believe will assist in the war against terrorism," he said.
"There will shortly be going before the National Security Committee and the cabinet proposals for a range of different measures including new legislation to deal with terrorism threats."
Foreign Minister Alexander Downer this morning said the apparent confession proved Australia had to take security seriously.
"I don't think this is a hoax or should be treated as a hoax," he told the Seven Network's Sunrise program.
"I think these are claims that should be taken seriously.
"We can be grateful for the fact that he has been arrested by Indian authorities and it just simply underlines the point that we do live in very dangerous times and all countries have to be much more vigilant with their security."
From AAP
06dec01
UP to 50 middle-eastern men reportedly tried urgently to receive pilot training in South Australia 10 months ahead of the September 11 terror attacks, according to reports.
The allegations arose after a man arrested in India earlier today claimed he intended to carry out suicide attacks in Australia after undergoing pilot training in Australia in 1997 and 1998, federal Attorney-General Daryl Williams said.
SBS radio says it has obtained documents which show SA education department officials raised concerns about the mass application for flight training two weeks after the September 11 terrorist attack.
SBS says South Australian police, the premier's department and federal police were contacted soon after and the FBI was also alerted.
The request by the men to train at the Murray Bridge-based company last December was turned down by the education department because the men wanted the training to be completed urgently.
The head of the flight school confirmed to SBS that police are still looking at documents relating to the application.
SBS says it appears the men seeking the flight training then went to the US.
Earlie today Mr Williams said the man arrested in India was not an Australian citizen but would not say what nationality he was.
He also declined to release details of the air training school where the man took lessons.
"I have had a briefing from ASIO (the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation) this morning in relation to the man in custody in India," he said.
"We have confirmed that the man in custody in India undertook pilot training in Australia in 1997 and 1998 and he left Australia in December 1998 and has not returned.
"He claims that he undertook that training for terrorist purposes.
"However we haven't been able to confirm the veracity of that claim. "The matter is still under investigation."
Earlier, Indian Home Minister LK Advani said a man thought to be linked to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network was arrested in Bombay.
He had made "very shocking confessions", including that "the al Qaeda had plans to not only attack the United States but also for similar attacks on Britain, Australia and the Indian parliament".
Mr Williams said: "We have been aware of claims that a group was training to undertake terrorist acts in the United Kingdom, India and Australia for some time.
"We have good liaison with intelligence agencies overseas and it is from that source that this information has been provided."
Mr Williams said the Government was not aware of any specific threat in relation to the man or any other person in Australia.
He said Australia remained on a heightened security alert as it had been since the terrorist attacks on the US on September 11.
"We are putting in place a range of measures we believe will assist in the war against terrorism," he said.
"There will shortly be going before the National Security Committee and the cabinet proposals for a range of different measures including new legislation to deal with terrorism threats."
Foreign Minister Alexander Downer this morning said the apparent confession proved Australia had to take security seriously.
"I don't think this is a hoax or should be treated as a hoax," he told the Seven Network's Sunrise program.
"I think these are claims that should be taken seriously.
"We can be grateful for the fact that he has been arrested by Indian authorities and it just simply underlines the point that we do live in very dangerous times and all countries have to be much more vigilant with their security."
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How do "they" know this????
Simple! You, me and everyone else who has flown or undertaken flying training of any desciption in Australia in the last x years is being investigated. Your ARN is checked (I guess to see if you are still flying)matched with your address, tax file no# and passport (to see if you left the country).
Simple! You, me and everyone else who has flown or undertaken flying training of any desciption in Australia in the last x years is being investigated. Your ARN is checked (I guess to see if you are still flying)matched with your address, tax file no# and passport (to see if you left the country).
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Not soooo long ago, I read that pilots were perceived by the public as some of the most trustworthy people in the world, along with fire fighters, librarians and nurses.
Given some of the ratbags I know, it was a bit of a giggle at the time, but it is interesting how quickly things change.
Given some of the ratbags I know, it was a bit of a giggle at the time, but it is interesting how quickly things change.
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Just after the Sept 11 atrocity the Special Branch in the UK interviewed and checked every pilot that had done any flying in the U.S. If they were of Indian or Arab appearance they were questioned rather "closely".
I was the only one in my class not to get a call from the Special Branch as I had not flown in the U.S.
Schools were interviewed and many people have been charged/detained.
The U.K. is unfortunately used to terrorism and they moved very swiftly to the U.S.'s requests.
I was the only one in my class not to get a call from the Special Branch as I had not flown in the U.S.
Schools were interviewed and many people have been charged/detained.
The U.K. is unfortunately used to terrorism and they moved very swiftly to the U.S.'s requests.
