A Wannabe Anywhere but UK
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A Wannabe Anywhere but UK
Gday to all you guys and gals down there. Hope you all had a Happy New Year and best wishes for 2002!
OK Enough crawling, I need HELP please!
I am doing my JAR PPL which should be completed in the next couple of months and I am looking to go commercial (and at 30 time is going quick). My original plan was
1 Finish PPL
2 Hours Build
3 ATPL Distance Learning whilst CPL flight training
4 Assess the market and get IR if jobs looked forthcoming, if not instructors course
Pretty straight forward as such (well we know the industry is anything but!)
Problem here is I don't want to be here!
Spent 8 months down there, fell in love with the place and have been homesick since I got back!
Can someone advise me on the ins & outs of flying down under.
Would it be best for me to stay in UK, stick to my plans and hopefully get a job flying ATR's, Fokkers or some other turboprops for a few years, then come to Oz and convert my JAR ticket (at what cost and time span for a full ATPL/CPL with IR?)
Or should I come over after my PPL, convert into Australian and do my ATPL/CPL/IR over there! Again what cost and time span are we looking at?
I know Europe would be the better option for getting into airlines in a couple of years with say 700 hours and all the papers but what is the situation in Australia Is a CPL/IR 700Hrs not worth anything, are jobs only available to guys with 2-3000 hours? I will probably go instructing for a couple of years for the hours and experience!
Visa ain't a problem as I am a chef to trade and can get sponsored by family member!
Please help folks. <img src="wink.gif" border="0">
I really miss you all!!!!! <img src="frown.gif" border="0">
OK Enough crawling, I need HELP please!
I am doing my JAR PPL which should be completed in the next couple of months and I am looking to go commercial (and at 30 time is going quick). My original plan was
1 Finish PPL
2 Hours Build
3 ATPL Distance Learning whilst CPL flight training
4 Assess the market and get IR if jobs looked forthcoming, if not instructors course
Pretty straight forward as such (well we know the industry is anything but!)
Problem here is I don't want to be here!
Spent 8 months down there, fell in love with the place and have been homesick since I got back!
Can someone advise me on the ins & outs of flying down under.
Would it be best for me to stay in UK, stick to my plans and hopefully get a job flying ATR's, Fokkers or some other turboprops for a few years, then come to Oz and convert my JAR ticket (at what cost and time span for a full ATPL/CPL with IR?)
Or should I come over after my PPL, convert into Australian and do my ATPL/CPL/IR over there! Again what cost and time span are we looking at?
I know Europe would be the better option for getting into airlines in a couple of years with say 700 hours and all the papers but what is the situation in Australia Is a CPL/IR 700Hrs not worth anything, are jobs only available to guys with 2-3000 hours? I will probably go instructing for a couple of years for the hours and experience!
Visa ain't a problem as I am a chef to trade and can get sponsored by family member!
Please help folks. <img src="wink.gif" border="0">
I really miss you all!!!!! <img src="frown.gif" border="0">
PPRuNe Handmaiden
Thanks for the compliments. Ironically, I have left Oz for the UK. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
Converting a JAR ATPL to an Australian one is comparatively easy. I am not too sure about a JAR CPL/IR with exams credits to an Australian CPL.
You have to check with <a href="http://www.casa.gov.au" target="_blank">CASA</a>.
Converting an Australian ATPL to a JAR one is painful and expensive. ie 14 exams again and either a Type rating (if +500 hours multi pilot ops) or the full IR again. <img src="redface.gif" border="0">
The work situation. Your chef's qualifications will help you to survive while you are trying to get a break in the industry here.
Most people either instruct or head out to the north or west to get a start flying C206's etc. You may even consider station flying. I am sure they wouldn't mind a chef to help out in the kitchen <img src="wink.gif" border="0">
Remember, you have to be persistant and lucky to get a job. There are many pilots with low hours looking for a break. Come to think of it, at the moment there are many experienced pilots looking to get a job too. (Like Europe, a few airlines have fallen over here)
To get onto the turboprops you usually need about 3,000 hours with a fair number of twin hours. This usually takes a few years to get.
So, it is your decision. If you think you'll get a job fairly quickly in the UK then go for it. However, as you know, times are tough there as well.
Good luck
[ 03 January 2002: Message edited by: redsnail ]</p>
Converting a JAR ATPL to an Australian one is comparatively easy. I am not too sure about a JAR CPL/IR with exams credits to an Australian CPL.
You have to check with <a href="http://www.casa.gov.au" target="_blank">CASA</a>.
Converting an Australian ATPL to a JAR one is painful and expensive. ie 14 exams again and either a Type rating (if +500 hours multi pilot ops) or the full IR again. <img src="redface.gif" border="0">
The work situation. Your chef's qualifications will help you to survive while you are trying to get a break in the industry here.
Most people either instruct or head out to the north or west to get a start flying C206's etc. You may even consider station flying. I am sure they wouldn't mind a chef to help out in the kitchen <img src="wink.gif" border="0">
Remember, you have to be persistant and lucky to get a job. There are many pilots with low hours looking for a break. Come to think of it, at the moment there are many experienced pilots looking to get a job too. (Like Europe, a few airlines have fallen over here)
To get onto the turboprops you usually need about 3,000 hours with a fair number of twin hours. This usually takes a few years to get.
So, it is your decision. If you think you'll get a job fairly quickly in the UK then go for it. However, as you know, times are tough there as well.
Good luck
[ 03 January 2002: Message edited by: redsnail ]</p>
