Ansett Leadership - a total lack thereof
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Ansett Leadership - a total lack thereof
Speaking to both those that have been successful and not in re-applying for their positions with Tesna one resounding comment was unanimous -
The total lack of leadership displayed by the Ansett Chief Pilot and his minions throughout the entire debacle.
As one individual said throughout the last 4 months he had never received one personal letter or email from the Chief Pilot but always impersonal notices from his secretary.
Did any pilots receive a personal letter of thanks for Christmas and the New Year from said individual?
It's not too hard considering the CP hasn't an airline to manage and seeing as he is so good at distributing videos a card or personal email isn't much to ask.
Will AN Mk II Flight Ops send a personal letter to each individual that was unsuccessful thanking them for their contribution over the last so many years and wishing them well in their new endeavours?
They may have to now seeing as Fox/Lew read this site I am led to believe.
Did Ansett publish a list of those candidates successful in re-applying for their positions? - NO!
The reason? - As always AN management have used rumour and innuendo to cover up for a total lack of accountability or lack of people skills in even its basic form.
Leadership,administrative accumen,personal skills,decency,integrity and accountability appear to be non existant.
Let's hope the "New" Ansett is just that - and the existing ineffectual management that was a festering boil on Ansett Mk I is removed to allow for people with the ability and integrity to both efficiently run a flight dept and handle pilots the way grown adults expect and deserve.
This may sound like sour grapes people but I think if you reply to this post speaking of current management's virtues and the great way the Flt Dept is run you may need to wear your flack-jackets!
[ 28 December 2001: Message edited by: Dambuster ]</p>
The total lack of leadership displayed by the Ansett Chief Pilot and his minions throughout the entire debacle.
As one individual said throughout the last 4 months he had never received one personal letter or email from the Chief Pilot but always impersonal notices from his secretary.
Did any pilots receive a personal letter of thanks for Christmas and the New Year from said individual?
It's not too hard considering the CP hasn't an airline to manage and seeing as he is so good at distributing videos a card or personal email isn't much to ask.
Will AN Mk II Flight Ops send a personal letter to each individual that was unsuccessful thanking them for their contribution over the last so many years and wishing them well in their new endeavours?
They may have to now seeing as Fox/Lew read this site I am led to believe.
Did Ansett publish a list of those candidates successful in re-applying for their positions? - NO!
The reason? - As always AN management have used rumour and innuendo to cover up for a total lack of accountability or lack of people skills in even its basic form.
Leadership,administrative accumen,personal skills,decency,integrity and accountability appear to be non existant.
Let's hope the "New" Ansett is just that - and the existing ineffectual management that was a festering boil on Ansett Mk I is removed to allow for people with the ability and integrity to both efficiently run a flight dept and handle pilots the way grown adults expect and deserve.
This may sound like sour grapes people but I think if you reply to this post speaking of current management's virtues and the great way the Flt Dept is run you may need to wear your flack-jackets!
[ 28 December 2001: Message edited by: Dambuster ]</p>
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No flak jacket required for me Dambuster.
Its been a disgrace how these boys have handled the collapse and communication between information starved troops.
I understand there's been an Army of them working in Flt ops over that time,but sadly little comfort was given to the rank and file.
I expect there will be more of the same when Managment positions are announced shortly.
I've also been watching the Flight attendant situation,and as expected some of the best have fallen to the benefit of some of the worst.
Let's hope the resurrection is just that.
[ 29 December 2001: Message edited by: Thumbs up ]</p>
Its been a disgrace how these boys have handled the collapse and communication between information starved troops.
I understand there's been an Army of them working in Flt ops over that time,but sadly little comfort was given to the rank and file.
I expect there will be more of the same when Managment positions are announced shortly.
I've also been watching the Flight attendant situation,and as expected some of the best have fallen to the benefit of some of the worst.
Let's hope the resurrection is just that.
[ 29 December 2001: Message edited by: Thumbs up ]</p>
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My sister got her DCM a few days ago, after 10 years of service to AN as an airport ground staff memmber.
She was always a hard worker and, judging by the tearful fairwells when she transfered from SYD to BNE a couple of years ago, popular with her workmates.
She is devestated, unable to even talk to me on the phone last night.
Yes she is just one of thousands, but has hung on doing her bit a few days a week, including Dec 25th, and deserved better! <img src="frown.gif" border="0">
Management is a four letter word as far as I'm concerned.
Chuck.
She was always a hard worker and, judging by the tearful fairwells when she transfered from SYD to BNE a couple of years ago, popular with her workmates.
She is devestated, unable to even talk to me on the phone last night.
Yes she is just one of thousands, but has hung on doing her bit a few days a week, including Dec 25th, and deserved better! <img src="frown.gif" border="0">
Management is a four letter word as far as I'm concerned.
Chuck.
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Rescue 1 - your reply was of little or no value.
I suppose that AN Flt Ops (you probably being one of the guilty party judging by your response) have provided you with full factual info throughout this entire debacle at the standard commensurate with caring,competent and responsible management? - I thought not.
These people have seem to have feathered their own nests as spinout has accurately indicated.
Sour grapes maybe like I said but I think the others have hit the nail fair on the head.
Ansett Flight department's silence has been deafening as per usual.
I suppose that AN Flt Ops (you probably being one of the guilty party judging by your response) have provided you with full factual info throughout this entire debacle at the standard commensurate with caring,competent and responsible management? - I thought not.
These people have seem to have feathered their own nests as spinout has accurately indicated.
Sour grapes maybe like I said but I think the others have hit the nail fair on the head.
Ansett Flight department's silence has been deafening as per usual.
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I just tried to access the Ansett Web site to book a few tickets from Melbourne to Brisbane return and guess what?
The system is down!!!!!
Qantas and Virgin sites functioning normally at the same time I might add.
Looks like TJ and MR are doing to Ansett's IT department what they have done to Flight Operations!
Off to Qantas I go...............and if they cant run a web site how can an airline be run effectively??
The system is down!!!!!
Qantas and Virgin sites functioning normally at the same time I might add.
Looks like TJ and MR are doing to Ansett's IT department what they have done to Flight Operations!
Off to Qantas I go...............and if they cant run a web site how can an airline be run effectively??
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A number of very fine individuals were not offered positions. Fortunately, there are some pilots intending to refuse their offer and create second round opportunities.
Having survived the culling intact I have observed that while the company had a great opportunity to clean out the dead wood, it did not go high enough up the food chain.
As a friend of mine is keen on saying, Ansett is over managed and under led. The lack of information and support from Operations for the pilots has been underwhelming. There is hardly a good word to be said about FOD from the troops at anytime, let alone over the last few months.
A sharp tongue is no indication of a keen mind. and those alone at the top are in bad company. Those at AN will know who I mean.
We need outstanding Leadership to drive the company forward. We don't need a bunch of ambitious, back stabbing desk thumpers that bury themselves in the office and hide from the troops. We need good managers that LEAD.(Even some personality wouldn't go astray)
Thankfully we already have them but it's hard to fly like an eagle when you're surrounded by turkeys.
I live in hope that FLEW will realise we need a serious cleanout from the top down. We need to sift with the fine filter. Anyone can manage. Few can lead. The troops know who they are. Ask us.
Having survived the culling intact I have observed that while the company had a great opportunity to clean out the dead wood, it did not go high enough up the food chain.
As a friend of mine is keen on saying, Ansett is over managed and under led. The lack of information and support from Operations for the pilots has been underwhelming. There is hardly a good word to be said about FOD from the troops at anytime, let alone over the last few months.
A sharp tongue is no indication of a keen mind. and those alone at the top are in bad company. Those at AN will know who I mean.
We need outstanding Leadership to drive the company forward. We don't need a bunch of ambitious, back stabbing desk thumpers that bury themselves in the office and hide from the troops. We need good managers that LEAD.(Even some personality wouldn't go astray)
Thankfully we already have them but it's hard to fly like an eagle when you're surrounded by turkeys.
I live in hope that FLEW will realise we need a serious cleanout from the top down. We need to sift with the fine filter. Anyone can manage. Few can lead. The troops know who they are. Ask us.
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In WW2 many Nazi double agents were shot.Circumstantial evidence would suggest we have the scourge of double agents at our highest leadership levels.The man is clever,he uses terror,coupled with bumbling ineptitude to cover his subversive ways.
We are about to discover if he is bulletproof.
We are about to discover if he is bulletproof.
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What are sower grapes.
I am from engineering and I am redundant as of the 6th Jan.
They recon they can continue to run the opperaton on a smell of an oily rag.
I am sorry to say that the way the opperation is being set up,it will eventually fail.
In a way I am glad i do not have to make the decision weather to stay or not, I am out.
Sorry I forot to mention , give it about two years and the industry will be back where it was. Just all you lott hang in there.
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I am from engineering and I am redundant as of the 6th Jan.
They recon they can continue to run the opperaton on a smell of an oily rag.
I am sorry to say that the way the opperation is being set up,it will eventually fail.
In a way I am glad i do not have to make the decision weather to stay or not, I am out.
Sorry I forot to mention , give it about two years and the industry will be back where it was. Just all you lott hang in there.
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AN engineering was disasterous,a significant factor in our downfall.Not just the management either.Phone calls to reporters traced to the hangars at X-mas and easter.
Successful,lean but capable engineering,look over at KDs and their CRJs.
They didn`t tear up records the day the place went under,either.
Not an attack on the many superb AN engineers,more an attack again on their management and the odd bad apple,catylsts in the downfall.
AN engineering was disasterous,a significant factor in our downfall.Not just the management either.Phone calls to reporters traced to the hangars at X-mas and easter.
Successful,lean but capable engineering,look over at KDs and their CRJs.
They didn`t tear up records the day the place went under,either.
Not an attack on the many superb AN engineers,more an attack again on their management and the odd bad apple,catylsts in the downfall.
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No slur on the engineers at AN but many work practices in the shed were awfully outdated. Even the airbus audit found too many engineers taking too long to complete overhauls (compared to other carriers.)
They will be able to run it a lot leaner - but it will take a fresh approach and a retiring of the old mindset.
Now, if only the same could happen at flight ops........
They will be able to run it a lot leaner - but it will take a fresh approach and a retiring of the old mindset.
Now, if only the same could happen at flight ops........
