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Old 12th Oct 2001, 05:32
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Question A320 and 737 pilots wanted by "Ansett World"

Ad in the Aviation section of The Australian today posted by "Ansett World" re A320 and 737 pilots for 90 days (or more)in New Zealand.

A break, or another cruel twist of the knife?

Anybody know the go here? Ridgy Didge or Dogs bolloxs?
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The 90 days should be the giveaway.
Probably the big Q,to give short term relief to the domestic situation in oz.
Don't expect long service leave.
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Actually the 90 days (with possible extension)is in NZ and is the B737, the A320 doesn't say where it is but it is for 2 years........
 
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Where do you think the remaining staff at AN mKII should stand in relation to the ex An drivers that take up these positions? Should they leave the porch light on and welcome them back with open arms if and when AN MKII is successful????

Even the guys who go to NZ and fly, the guys go to NZ to free up Qf 737s to come back to OZ and fly domestically AGAINST AN. and the 767 guys flying now for AWAS with QF uniforms on??? Obviously they are flying to sink AN's chance at getting back to strength by flying at reduced rates for the opposition. All of the pilots from AN who go off and do this, forfeit their right to come back to a company that has supported them for years in the manner that they have become accustomed to.

They of course will bleet and cry poor, "Who will feed my starving poodles???" And also be the ones who blame everyone else for the demise of AN I & II. Their short sightedness will never allow them to see that they were passing the final nails to the undertaker as he drives them in.

Take the contracts by all means... Just dont expect an even more battered AN MK II to welcome you back with open arms.

Your opinions?
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PFM, I agree pilot's must make the decision to go or stay and wait and see if there is any life in the old grey mare, but I guess work is work and you must at some stage make that crucial decision on leaving and starting over again as who knows just how long it is going to take to get AN II up and running.

You leave you don't look back as retrospectivity breeds bitterness.
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AN's management attitude to anyone from AN who takes these contracts is that they have to resign as they are seen to be helping QF put another nail in AN.
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I'm at a loss as to why it is such a big deal.

The 'new' Ansett has been reported to be seeking just 20% of the available market. Prior to its collapse it held 39%. That leaves 19% to be picked up by Qantas or Virgin.

So how does a few Ansett Boeing pilots who are not likely to get there jobs back in the new Airbus led company with a reported 35 or so jets, effect any chance of getting AN back into the market.

I understand that AN provided VB with spares and some limited ground support in the early days for there 737 operation - I would have thought that, that would have caused far more damage.

The SMH reported that 'sacking' letters will be forwarded this week - so it may all be academic anyway.
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Yes now would these management types who are allegedly forcing AN staff to resign in order to take a QF contract be the same ones who created the whole sorry mess to begin with? Might they be the same ones who were always begging QF to loan them spares? Might they even be thinking "well the fewer AN staff that remain at liquidation, the bigger the pot, and hence the bigger the payout I'll get" (should go well with the big bonuses awarded a couple of weeks before the wheels fell off). Gee whiz............maybe they are even ex-QF themselves and are jealous that QF would hire some of the line pilots but surely will not take back the hand grenade himself...........! Mmmmmmmmmmmm
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Flying in NZ is for Kiwi pilots.
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