Who is padantic with logbooks?
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I consider my logbook to be my most valuable posession. A personal diary of sorts. I take pride in recording flights with enough detail of route etc to be able to distinguish it from similar flights if prompted at a future interview. In fact, just yesterday I entered perhaps the most significant entry thus far - mile high club membership! A little unsure how to record this event, I decided a discrete asterisk after the route description would suffice. 
Thats enough to remind myself of what it means I think.
Thats enough to remind myself of what it means I think.
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I always use start up and shut down times jotted down on my flight plan to log 'true' hours.
The odd bit of white-out has been used but mainly to keep everything neat. It can always be scratched off if someone wants to check my integrity.
There are 2 pages certified correct out of 1.5 log books. I always thought that your hours could be cross referenced through a company's daily flight record, if they keep them that long.
My log books are treated like family photo albums. If the house went up in flames they would be one of the items I would grab, apart from the good wife of course. Have been thinking about transferring everything over to one of those electronic logbooks. Anyone have good/bad reports on that system?
The odd bit of white-out has been used but mainly to keep everything neat. It can always be scratched off if someone wants to check my integrity.
There are 2 pages certified correct out of 1.5 log books. I always thought that your hours could be cross referenced through a company's daily flight record, if they keep them that long.
My log books are treated like family photo albums. If the house went up in flames they would be one of the items I would grab, apart from the good wife of course. Have been thinking about transferring everything over to one of those electronic logbooks. Anyone have good/bad reports on that system?
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As for backup:
every few weeks I scan the most recent pages into the computer. About once a year I make a CD with pictures from around the house (for insurance) and scans of important documents [including the logbook], all encrypted, and give this to a relative to hold for me. Cheap insurance in case of a fire or loss.
[the logbook lives in a bag in an unattached garage a good distance from the apartment, the computer is in the house so I don't worry about fire that much]
every few weeks I scan the most recent pages into the computer. About once a year I make a CD with pictures from around the house (for insurance) and scans of important documents [including the logbook], all encrypted, and give this to a relative to hold for me. Cheap insurance in case of a fire or loss.
[the logbook lives in a bag in an unattached garage a good distance from the apartment, the computer is in the house so I don't worry about fire that much]
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If this is any help to you,.
I worked in GA for five years having none of my log book entries verified, then went to a regional, where also they never verified log book entries.
I accrued about 5000hrs with out having a single entry verified since my initial training. I asked my GA and Regional bosses to please stamp my logbook, but it was way tooo hard for them, but it is important to us.
Anyway to cut a long story short, I now work for a major airline where they give me a computer print-out at the end of each month telling me where I went and how many hours I flew.
If you are worried that an airline won't believe the experience you have accumulated in your logbook, you are wrong! because they will soon pick it up in an interview or sim ride.
Just fill your logbooks out honestly and enjoy your experience flying and building that all envaluable time.
Believe me your logbook is your record more than there's, GA is the best time of your career, you don't believe it now as I did not.
But when you start flying the so called "Big JETS" you will realise it then.
Good luck to you all, and as far as the logbook goes just be honest with yourself and make correct entry's it's a personal record and you will look back on , as good times.
Best of luck.
The King (of I don't no anymore)
I worked in GA for five years having none of my log book entries verified, then went to a regional, where also they never verified log book entries.
I accrued about 5000hrs with out having a single entry verified since my initial training. I asked my GA and Regional bosses to please stamp my logbook, but it was way tooo hard for them, but it is important to us.
Anyway to cut a long story short, I now work for a major airline where they give me a computer print-out at the end of each month telling me where I went and how many hours I flew.
If you are worried that an airline won't believe the experience you have accumulated in your logbook, you are wrong! because they will soon pick it up in an interview or sim ride.
Just fill your logbooks out honestly and enjoy your experience flying and building that all envaluable time.
Believe me your logbook is your record more than there's, GA is the best time of your career, you don't believe it now as I did not.
But when you start flying the so called "Big JETS" you will realise it then.
Good luck to you all, and as far as the logbook goes just be honest with yourself and make correct entry's it's a personal record and you will look back on , as good times.
Best of luck.
The King (of I don't no anymore)
King George that is the most sensible reply I have read here, but I would like to add to it.
If you are going to pursue a job overseas with companies like SIA or Emirates then they will require that previous hours are certified by your chief pilot or similar representative. The airlines don`t have the time or resources to check every single hour and when conducting log book checks will generally compare hours versus age and employment history as a gross error check.
They don`t require every single hour to be certified but a stamp from the last employer or two will keep them happy. Some of these requirements are to satisfy the local CAA when employing expatriate pilots.
As others have previously mentioned, generally those that have done a bit of "Parker" flying will get found out at some stage or another. Ours being such a small and closeknit industry it is not worth the long term career risk to commit such an act.
Keeping a clear and neat logbook also goes a long way to impressing upon an employer that you do take pride in what you are doing and what you have done.
Computer printouts will also require a company stamp and signature to authenticate them.
If you are going to pursue a job overseas with companies like SIA or Emirates then they will require that previous hours are certified by your chief pilot or similar representative. The airlines don`t have the time or resources to check every single hour and when conducting log book checks will generally compare hours versus age and employment history as a gross error check.
They don`t require every single hour to be certified but a stamp from the last employer or two will keep them happy. Some of these requirements are to satisfy the local CAA when employing expatriate pilots.
As others have previously mentioned, generally those that have done a bit of "Parker" flying will get found out at some stage or another. Ours being such a small and closeknit industry it is not worth the long term career risk to commit such an act.
Keeping a clear and neat logbook also goes a long way to impressing upon an employer that you do take pride in what you are doing and what you have done.
Computer printouts will also require a company stamp and signature to authenticate them.
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429CJ,
D+G Spelling Police is a good friend of mine and he tells me:
a) he has lost his password and his Email address is no longer valid;
b) Pseudonym didn't get him at all, she just THOUGHT she did; and
c) Pseudonym is much better looking than you.
I can vouch for the last one
D+G Spelling Police is a good friend of mine and he tells me:
a) he has lost his password and his Email address is no longer valid;
b) Pseudonym didn't get him at all, she just THOUGHT she did; and
c) Pseudonym is much better looking than you.
I can vouch for the last one
