Solo practice of stall recovery
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I have no problem with spinning a spin-approved aircraft, providing that the aircraft loading, entry and recovery techniques are understood and observed/followed.
However, my observations suggest that many pilots, including some instructors, don't appear to bother about weight control matters. ..... not to mention aggressive entry techniques ...
A pity not to recover from a spin due to carelessness, don't you think ?
However, my observations suggest that many pilots, including some instructors, don't appear to bother about weight control matters. ..... not to mention aggressive entry techniques ...
A pity not to recover from a spin due to carelessness, don't you think ?
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Hmmm Not more than a week ago did I see a young man in a C152A win the sportsman category at the NZ Areobatic champs. Not only that he also won the champion of champions award for the highest percentage of points scored in any category!!
He competed against Pitts's (S1-S & S2-B), Sybolts, Chipmunks etc
Sorta makes Slashers comments a bit weak (no he didn't thrash it)
BTW He did his type rating in the 152 when he got to the competition venue.
He competed against Pitts's (S1-S & S2-B), Sybolts, Chipmunks etc
Sorta makes Slashers comments a bit weak (no he didn't thrash it)
BTW He did his type rating in the 152 when he got to the competition venue.
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Oh what a shocker. To be quite honest, I would not be at all keen to go flying with someone who hasn't, or is unwilling to practice stall recovery, and indeed spin recovery (aeroplane permitting).
To think that there maybe people with CPLs who haven't had that experience. Stalls and spins don't always happen with plenty of buffet, and all the standard symptoms. I believe everyone should also do some aerobatics training, to teach them just what their aeroplane is capable/incapable of, and encourage them to be positive with the aircraft. Great confidence booster too.
That is the problem with civvy flight training, coupled with the fact that a student can keep attempting their liscense, no matter how incompetent they may be, until they pass. No other profession i know of has this lax training standard.
To think that there maybe people with CPLs who haven't had that experience. Stalls and spins don't always happen with plenty of buffet, and all the standard symptoms. I believe everyone should also do some aerobatics training, to teach them just what their aeroplane is capable/incapable of, and encourage them to be positive with the aircraft. Great confidence booster too.
That is the problem with civvy flight training, coupled with the fact that a student can keep attempting their liscense, no matter how incompetent they may be, until they pass. No other profession i know of has this lax training standard.
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Eeeee.... When I were a lad, we used to get our little Bulldog up to 10,000ft, stall, chuck the nose over, get it well wound up into a full inverted flat spin and hold it 'til 4000ft Agl - I remember this being between 6-8 full spins when we'd start the recovery and be out of it by 2000ft or we'd be pulling the canopy and jumping! I was trained by one of the very few Old AND Bold ex UK RAF pilots who had flown everything from lightnings to Jaguars and revelled in doing REAL spin training! I'm not sure I was ever much use in recovery, I seem to remember the autopilot (instructor) usually taking control after spin 3! That was over 20 years ago now in the UK forces, but I still remember those spins as if it were yesterday!
Spin away guys - just make sure you have a parachute and good insurance!
Spin away guys - just make sure you have a parachute and good insurance!