Ansett : Workers still in limbo
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Ansett : Workers still in limbo
Fri "The Australian":
Ansett workers still in limbo
By Steve Creedy and Nicole Strahan
December 28, 2001
THE fate of at least 1200 Ansett workers will remain in limbo until next month, as the restructured airline's administrators work out how many people have accepted the jobs it has on offer.
Letters of intent have been mailed to 4000 of the 5600 workers who applied for jobs on the revamped Ansett and yesterday redundancy notices were sent to 400 workers not needed for the new operation.
The letters of intent tell them they will receive a job offer in January.
But a further 1200 workers will not know their fate until the first 4000 decide whether they will accept the jobs and so determine if there is a second round of job offers later that month.
"What they have to do is wait for 4000 people to physically accept jobs," a spokesman for administrators Andersen said yesterday. "If all of those 4000 accept then obviously the 1200 will be made redundant.
"But (the administrators) are holding off until they get the 4000 . . . acceptances."
Pilots are among the hardest hit by the collapse and were devastated by news almost half of them would be joining the jobless queue.
Only 340 of Ansett's 600 pilots will receive offers to work at the revamped airline.
Ansett Pilot's Association president Henry Otto, who worked for Ansett for 27 years, said his own relief at being offered a new job was tempered by the news hundreds of his workmates would now be unemployed.
"It is devastating," he said.
Mr Otto said most of the pilots not offered new jobs flew 737, 767 and BAE 146 planes and there was little short-term hope of them finding jobs in Australia. "However, it is hopeful that the success of Tesna will be such that the next 12 months to two years will provide the opportunity for an expansion of the business and a requirement for new pilots," he said.
The employed pilots will join other workers in having to decide whether to accept significantly different employment conditions.
Five unions covering ground-based staff, flight and cabin crew recently signed an enterprise agreement designed to deliver lower costs.
The start-up agreement retains current pay rates and leave conditions, but delivers significant productivity improvements over previous agreements.
Changes include new rostering arrangements and productivity incentives, such as bonuses for quickly turning around flights – a first for the Australian industry.
Ansett workers still in limbo
By Steve Creedy and Nicole Strahan
December 28, 2001
THE fate of at least 1200 Ansett workers will remain in limbo until next month, as the restructured airline's administrators work out how many people have accepted the jobs it has on offer.
Letters of intent have been mailed to 4000 of the 5600 workers who applied for jobs on the revamped Ansett and yesterday redundancy notices were sent to 400 workers not needed for the new operation.
The letters of intent tell them they will receive a job offer in January.
But a further 1200 workers will not know their fate until the first 4000 decide whether they will accept the jobs and so determine if there is a second round of job offers later that month.
"What they have to do is wait for 4000 people to physically accept jobs," a spokesman for administrators Andersen said yesterday. "If all of those 4000 accept then obviously the 1200 will be made redundant.
"But (the administrators) are holding off until they get the 4000 . . . acceptances."
Pilots are among the hardest hit by the collapse and were devastated by news almost half of them would be joining the jobless queue.
Only 340 of Ansett's 600 pilots will receive offers to work at the revamped airline.
Ansett Pilot's Association president Henry Otto, who worked for Ansett for 27 years, said his own relief at being offered a new job was tempered by the news hundreds of his workmates would now be unemployed.
"It is devastating," he said.
Mr Otto said most of the pilots not offered new jobs flew 737, 767 and BAE 146 planes and there was little short-term hope of them finding jobs in Australia. "However, it is hopeful that the success of Tesna will be such that the next 12 months to two years will provide the opportunity for an expansion of the business and a requirement for new pilots," he said.
The employed pilots will join other workers in having to decide whether to accept significantly different employment conditions.
Five unions covering ground-based staff, flight and cabin crew recently signed an enterprise agreement designed to deliver lower costs.
The start-up agreement retains current pay rates and leave conditions, but delivers significant productivity improvements over previous agreements.
Changes include new rostering arrangements and productivity incentives, such as bonuses for quickly turning around flights – a first for the Australian industry.
Moderate, Modest & Mild.
"Ansett Pilot's Association president Henig Otto, who worked for Ansett for 27 years, said his own relief at being offered a new job..."
Out of idle curiosity, was Ansett Pilots' Association president, Henig Otto, a current A320 pilot?
Out of idle curiosity, was Ansett Pilots' Association president, Henig Otto, a current A320 pilot?
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Kap M,
Don't know the answer but I have been told that the "cull" was over all aircraft types not just the A320 to arrive at a list from which selections were made. Apparently quite a few A320 pilots have opted out. Even if all the A320 pilots were available they will not have enough to crew up to 30 A320s.
Initially there will only be 16 A320s at start up anyway and with the flexibility of Min Guaranteed pay of 45.8 hrs and the ability to fly up to maximum hours it seems that the pilots will be fully committed at start up. Since it is a new start annual leave coverage will be nil for a while and by then sufficient pilots will be trained............it is thought.
Don't know the answer but I have been told that the "cull" was over all aircraft types not just the A320 to arrive at a list from which selections were made. Apparently quite a few A320 pilots have opted out. Even if all the A320 pilots were available they will not have enough to crew up to 30 A320s.
Initially there will only be 16 A320s at start up anyway and with the flexibility of Min Guaranteed pay of 45.8 hrs and the ability to fly up to maximum hours it seems that the pilots will be fully committed at start up. Since it is a new start annual leave coverage will be nil for a while and by then sufficient pilots will be trained............it is thought.
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Would be good if you got the facts before launching into your criticisms Kap M. Perhaps someone will supply the criteria used which was published to all AN pilots. As far as the standards "cull" went it was on ALL TYPES. You would also need to get a good brief on the new Proficiency Assessment Training System (PATS) which is quite different from the system you might have known and has been in operation for some years.
Since there will not be enough A320 pilots it is reasonable that remaining pilots on other types who indicate an interest be offered positions. As more crew are required they will be drawn from the list of BOTH Captains and First Officers.
Since there will not be enough A320 pilots it is reasonable that remaining pilots on other types who indicate an interest be offered positions. As more crew are required they will be drawn from the list of BOTH Captains and First Officers.
Hey Kaptin,
A leopard never changes it's spots? You're a perfect example of that!!
When are you going to respond on the "Far East" forum for shooting you're mouth off without all the facts (for a change!!!)
A leopard never changes it's spots? You're a perfect example of that!!
When are you going to respond on the "Far East" forum for shooting you're mouth off without all the facts (for a change!!!)
