Security at regional airports
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Security at regional airports
Having flown regionally quite often since Sept 11, it is unbelievable how non-existant security at regional ports is. You can board a regional transport without so much as a glance, carrying whatever, then get to Sydney and go through the whole rigmarol prior to entering the terminal. It's a bit back to front, don't you think??
Or are regional aircraft less susceptible to interference??(Not)
Anyone know what is, if anything, being done about it??
Or are regional aircraft less susceptible to interference??(Not)
Anyone know what is, if anything, being done about it??
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In a previous life I used to work at a passenger screening point at a terminal and it was interesting how little training you acutally got.
That aside, perhaps the threat of a Dash 8 into a building isn't as significant as a 737, 767, 747.
I'm not trying to be funny or anything, just utilising a bit of basic (although since Sept 11, flawed) risk analisys.
That aside, perhaps the threat of a Dash 8 into a building isn't as significant as a 737, 767, 747.
I'm not trying to be funny or anything, just utilising a bit of basic (although since Sept 11, flawed) risk analisys.
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Things have changed in that a regional aircraft departing from a centre where security was not provided now has to get everybody off at the next landing point where security is provided and go through the process while at the same time the aircraft is checked as well. All pax then return with other boarding pax to the aircraft on the boarding call..... It had to happen.
I won't elaborate further but you can see from this that action has been taken.
I won't elaborate further but you can see from this that action has been taken.
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Late September on "Today Tonight" 7 network showed regional airport in NSW where flight took off midday between change of shifts on security . Security scan points unstaffed for alleged 30 minutes . Seven showed film footage of their reporter walking on board with a briefcase full of sharp metal objects. What is alarming no comment from the bureaucrats or minister or anyone. Whilst this is sensational "beat up" a story journalism regrettably it has to be done to bring to public notice flaws in system.
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Keg wrote:
I'm sure you were joking Keg, considering there is almost NO screening of regional aircraft, in comparison to ALL of the others you mentioned. So surely, you mean the opposite, considering the higher risk comes from the aircraft upon which the occupants ARE NOT screened? 
Jetstar, I am yet to see a regional aircraft searched as you described....
As far as screening is concerned, why have private contractors (ie Centrelink rejects) doing the work? We need highly trained individuals, such as the AFP doing the job. Half those people working at YSSY would be hard pressed to give chase for 25M, let alone actually detain a potential hijacker.
Just look at what happened in the U.S. today. Private security personnel failed to detect a person with stun guns, knives, and capsicum spray in his carry on baggage.
IMHO, Sydney security is largely a sheltered workshop. God help us if this is the best that SACL can do.......
That aside, perhaps the threat of a Dash 8 into a building isn't as significant as a 737, 767, 747.
Jetstar, I am yet to see a regional aircraft searched as you described....
As far as screening is concerned, why have private contractors (ie Centrelink rejects) doing the work? We need highly trained individuals, such as the AFP doing the job. Half those people working at YSSY would be hard pressed to give chase for 25M, let alone actually detain a potential hijacker.
Just look at what happened in the U.S. today. Private security personnel failed to detect a person with stun guns, knives, and capsicum spray in his carry on baggage.
IMHO, Sydney security is largely a sheltered workshop. God help us if this is the best that SACL can do.......
Agreed Hugh I remember a few years ago accidently walking through a security check at BN airport with a mobile phone in my pocket, of course the alarm went off, I pulled to the side, stood around, no one had even noticed, I just kept on walking! Always been a bit of a laugh how you have to go thru security to get on a regional say to Canberra, get back on that aircraft at Port Mac or somewhere and you just stroll on.
Seinfeld did a very funny skit about airport security, there we go bowling ball candle thats fine, hairdryer with a scope on it thats ok
Seinfeld did a very funny skit about airport security, there we go bowling ball candle thats fine, hairdryer with a scope on it thats ok
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The issue of private contracting is one of the main issues that is holding up airline security legislation to go through the US, both sides are divided on it
One saying private contracting ok, the other saying no
Probably what happened today will change those things.
One saying private contracting ok, the other saying no
Probably what happened today will change those things.
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Security screening is a joke anyway. There are plenty of potential weapons on board most A/C already. Fire extinguishers, oxy bottles, wine bottles, steel cutlery,battons and crash axes just to name a few.Then you could sharpen up your Parker pen, put a false shaft on it, sharpen the lens on your glasses or use dozens of other permutations. Someone highly trained in martial arts doesn't need a weapon anyway.
You can't board an A/C with a set of nail clippers or tweesers though.
As for crew with a pocket knife. Very high risk of self hijack.
Anyone ever heard of plastic explosives?
You can't board an A/C with a set of nail clippers or tweesers though.
As for crew with a pocket knife. Very high risk of self hijack.
Anyone ever heard of plastic explosives?
