Fact or Fiction?
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Nah! Bu***r it, I can't resist. I've striven manfully to ignore the trash that trans-Tasman idiot wrote, but failed, so here goes.
1. Yes, AN's pilots may have been overpaid, although I guess they'd disagree, but I'm damned if I'm going to allow the "across-the-board" implication. In my field, QF people doing the same job are up to $6,000 ahead of me. I can't say about AirNZ. Another point - could it not be argued that AirNZ pilots are under-paid? Would they disagree? Why is it that Freedom Air pilots will be employed ONLY after they pay for their own type endorsement? AN trained its own pilots.
2. ....some staff had more than 170 weeks of leave owing.... yeah, right, as if. Even for shift workers at 5 weeks leave/annum, that would equate to not having taken leave for 34 years!! Waken up, sonny.
3. ....all staff received an 8% increase. So where's mine? What we got, in fact, was SIX%, paid over two years, as part of EB4. Under this agreement, we agreed to productivity gains which were not implemented by a (AirNZ) management too damned stupid to see the opportunities in front of their faces.
4. AN had line maintenance bases, a necessity for a land longer than a bootlace, and, as for heavy maintenance, this was carried out in MEL, apart from BNE (B737), and PER (BAe146). Keep in mind the size of the AN fleet, coupled with the fact that it was the AirNZ board which knocked back Rod Eddington's proposal for a fleet rationalisation.
5. While it would be the height of stupidity to argue the quality of AN's fleet maintenance, let me point out who it was who set in place the priorities. ANNZES, that's who put third-party work before AN's a/c, e.g. Sichuan. AirNZ records claim 4-day turn-round time for NZ engineers, but 28 days for AN, I don't think so. "Lies, damned lies and Air NZ records", I think.
6. I'm staying away from your comment re CASA, they appear to my untrained eye to be approaching the libelous. Since, by then, AirNZ were our managers, including GT and his 15 QF cronies, why were these discrepancies tolerated?
Before you get on a too-high horse, remember that it was an NZ economist who, just last week, announced that New Zealand was about to be dropped off the list of OECD countries, and placed onto the "Developing Nations" list. On that basis, report the FACTS, otherwise stay in your own beautiful backyard.
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TheNightOwl.$6,000
1. Yes, AN's pilots may have been overpaid, although I guess they'd disagree, but I'm damned if I'm going to allow the "across-the-board" implication. In my field, QF people doing the same job are up to $6,000 ahead of me. I can't say about AirNZ. Another point - could it not be argued that AirNZ pilots are under-paid? Would they disagree? Why is it that Freedom Air pilots will be employed ONLY after they pay for their own type endorsement? AN trained its own pilots.
2. ....some staff had more than 170 weeks of leave owing.... yeah, right, as if. Even for shift workers at 5 weeks leave/annum, that would equate to not having taken leave for 34 years!! Waken up, sonny.
3. ....all staff received an 8% increase. So where's mine? What we got, in fact, was SIX%, paid over two years, as part of EB4. Under this agreement, we agreed to productivity gains which were not implemented by a (AirNZ) management too damned stupid to see the opportunities in front of their faces.
4. AN had line maintenance bases, a necessity for a land longer than a bootlace, and, as for heavy maintenance, this was carried out in MEL, apart from BNE (B737), and PER (BAe146). Keep in mind the size of the AN fleet, coupled with the fact that it was the AirNZ board which knocked back Rod Eddington's proposal for a fleet rationalisation.
5. While it would be the height of stupidity to argue the quality of AN's fleet maintenance, let me point out who it was who set in place the priorities. ANNZES, that's who put third-party work before AN's a/c, e.g. Sichuan. AirNZ records claim 4-day turn-round time for NZ engineers, but 28 days for AN, I don't think so. "Lies, damned lies and Air NZ records", I think.
6. I'm staying away from your comment re CASA, they appear to my untrained eye to be approaching the libelous. Since, by then, AirNZ were our managers, including GT and his 15 QF cronies, why were these discrepancies tolerated?
Before you get on a too-high horse, remember that it was an NZ economist who, just last week, announced that New Zealand was about to be dropped off the list of OECD countries, and placed onto the "Developing Nations" list. On that basis, report the FACTS, otherwise stay in your own beautiful backyard.
Kind regards,
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Don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story! From flight ops;
Ansett A-320/B737 slightly more expensive than Air NZ.
Air NZ B767 and B747 more expensive than Ansett’s.
This takes in work rules, pay rates, and allowances.
Ansett A-320/B737 slightly more expensive than Air NZ.
Air NZ B767 and B747 more expensive than Ansett’s.
This takes in work rules, pay rates, and allowances.
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Does anybody notice a little nationalistic bias in the article? Perhaps along the lines of Kiwi pilots are great, Aussie pilots are lazy and overpaid, Kiwi engineers are great, Aussie engineers do bad work, and are lazy.
I don't believe that any person with the power of cognition could fall for such drivvle. That this article expects its readers to do so is a sad sad comentary on it's target audience.........
I don't believe that any person with the power of cognition could fall for such drivvle. That this article expects its readers to do so is a sad sad comentary on it's target audience.........
