Do Air NZ Have ANY Principles At All?
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Actually FSU, there are several Aussies working for AirNZ, both in the air and on the ground. The only reason there are not more is not because we are a xenophobic lot, but simply because the airline industry is so small here. As to what has caused AN to go tits up - perhaps you should examine the archaic union practices in your fair country, and ask what your reps could have done to alleviate the situation. Sure, the AirNZ board must shoulder some of the responsibility, but you would do well to remember who bailed AN out when the 767s were grounded (due to shoddy engineering practices in place well before AirNZ bought AN). There is no place for small minds in the aviation community - that is what kills people. 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Front Seat
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I would like to give you some facts and figures. Take just one example of Ansett workers vs NZ workers.
Ansett engineers have an entitlement to 15 sick days leave a year. They average 17 days per year per engineer. They are required to work 38 hours a week. If they work 40 a week, they earn what are referred to as Z days and these add up to 12 days off a year. They have 9 days of long service leave a year. Adding all these up, they get 38 days off a year for working a 40 hour week before they have any leave.
Their work patterns are 4 days on, five days off.
Taking all this into account and assuming they get four weeks leave a year (a conservative estimate probably) they work only 135 days a year. They do not work in the hangar on heavy maintenance between the hours of 0200 and 0600. The Air NZ hangar works 24 hours a day and seven days a week except Saturday night.
The man hour cost in NZ is 60 - 70 NZD per hour. The average man hour cost in Ansett is 120 NZD and is as high as 145 NZD per hour.
Productivity in Ansett is 50% of what it is in Air NZ and this information came from an Aussie.
If you are now prepared to open your blinkers, you might understand why Ansett struggled and eventually came to its own inevitable conclusion. I believe that it could have traded its way out. But it is significant that the unions are being too inflexible with the Administrator to allow this to happen.
Yes there are Australians in Air NZ. There was one on my course and I know of others.
Eventually all the facts will come out. You might find them enlightening if you are prepared to have an open mind.
Eventually I think you will find that it is the Directors that is to blame. There are four Autralians on the board.
There is none so blind as he who will not see nor so deaf as he who will not hear.
Ansett engineers have an entitlement to 15 sick days leave a year. They average 17 days per year per engineer. They are required to work 38 hours a week. If they work 40 a week, they earn what are referred to as Z days and these add up to 12 days off a year. They have 9 days of long service leave a year. Adding all these up, they get 38 days off a year for working a 40 hour week before they have any leave.
Their work patterns are 4 days on, five days off.
Taking all this into account and assuming they get four weeks leave a year (a conservative estimate probably) they work only 135 days a year. They do not work in the hangar on heavy maintenance between the hours of 0200 and 0600. The Air NZ hangar works 24 hours a day and seven days a week except Saturday night.
The man hour cost in NZ is 60 - 70 NZD per hour. The average man hour cost in Ansett is 120 NZD and is as high as 145 NZD per hour.
Productivity in Ansett is 50% of what it is in Air NZ and this information came from an Aussie.
If you are now prepared to open your blinkers, you might understand why Ansett struggled and eventually came to its own inevitable conclusion. I believe that it could have traded its way out. But it is significant that the unions are being too inflexible with the Administrator to allow this to happen.
Yes there are Australians in Air NZ. There was one on my course and I know of others.
Eventually all the facts will come out. You might find them enlightening if you are prepared to have an open mind.
Eventually I think you will find that it is the Directors that is to blame. There are four Autralians on the board.
There is none so blind as he who will not see nor so deaf as he who will not hear.
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Dunnunda & Godzone
Age: 74
Posts: 4,275
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Now that every body has got whatever off their chest, lets just stop bashing each other and get back to the issues lets just leave out the personalities or nationalities please.
W
Click!
W
Click!
