"Ansett - The Spirit Of Competition."
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"Ansett - The Spirit Of Competition."
In print media advertisements today, Ansett are using the slogan "the spirit of competition", they MAY have been using it previously? but I hadn't noticed it IF they were.
Now while I wish the employees NO harm, SAY THAT AGAIN IN CASE YOU DIDN'T GET IT, I WISH THE EMPLOYEES NO PERSONAL HARM, and would hate them to go through what a lot of us have in the last 10 years, I think it is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING AND UNETHICAL for Ansett to use this slogan
Ansett, enthusiastically helped by many of their employees, have done more than anyone in Australia to prevent ANY competition at all, particularly with Compass and Southern Cross.
How dare they use this slogan, have they no principles at all??????
Now while I wish the employees NO harm, SAY THAT AGAIN IN CASE YOU DIDN'T GET IT, I WISH THE EMPLOYEES NO PERSONAL HARM, and would hate them to go through what a lot of us have in the last 10 years, I think it is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING AND UNETHICAL for Ansett to use this slogan
Ansett, enthusiastically helped by many of their employees, have done more than anyone in Australia to prevent ANY competition at all, particularly with Compass and Southern Cross.
How dare they use this slogan, have they no principles at all??????
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Please accept my humble apology for having an opinion.......
I still say, it is disgusting for Ansett, who have used all sorts of dubious methods for years to eliminate any competition, to now use a slogan like that.
I think you will find a lot of the public will realise the same, and it will back fire on them.......
I still say, it is disgusting for Ansett, who have used all sorts of dubious methods for years to eliminate any competition, to now use a slogan like that.
I think you will find a lot of the public will realise the same, and it will back fire on them.......
Moderate, Modest & Mild.
Seems fairly apt to me and others, lame.
The spirit is all that now remains of the decimated Ansett body, and the lack of confidence shown by other major institutions such Westpac (ref. your other post on Westpac's Ansett Global Rewards points) would tend to give the view that Ansett has only a ghost of a chance, some credence.
Ansett - now the SPIRIT of a once great airline!
The spirit is all that now remains of the decimated Ansett body, and the lack of confidence shown by other major institutions such Westpac (ref. your other post on Westpac's Ansett Global Rewards points) would tend to give the view that Ansett has only a ghost of a chance, some credence.
Ansett - now the SPIRIT of a once great airline!
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One thing you forget lame and that since the time you seem to be refering to Ansett managment has changed a few times.
In fact the people running the show at the moment would not have a clew as to what you are talking about.
If the current crop of managers at the moment were the same as then, then I wiuld agree with you.
Unfortunatly at the moment I think you have no argument at all.
Let sleeping dogs lie.
In fact the people running the show at the moment would not have a clew as to what you are talking about.
If the current crop of managers at the moment were the same as then, then I wiuld agree with you.
Unfortunatly at the moment I think you have no argument at all.
Let sleeping dogs lie.
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I hear you LAME. It is ironic that AN was challenging new competitors over the last 10 years head on - even I recall some dirty tricks against Compass MkI.
Now with the company fighting for its own survival, the shoe [it appears], seems to be on the other foot.
Now with the company fighting for its own survival, the shoe [it appears], seems to be on the other foot.
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I would also object to Qantas using a similar slogan, especially at present for the same reason, but I haven't seen them use one, have you? Qantas were also not as bad to Compass, we used some of their facilities etc at a price.
In Ansett's case though, they have been doing all in their power to wipe out any competition for decades, now the shoe is on the other foot, they want to be the spirit of competition.
I mentioned Compass and Southern Cross because I was directly involved with them, however it goes way deeper than that even. Ansett have stifled any competition as I said for decades, there are many but including ANA, Butler Air transport and EastWest to name a few.
Surely even anyone that thinks Ansett is the greatest airline in the world, MUST cringe at using that slogan????
In Ansett's case though, they have been doing all in their power to wipe out any competition for decades, now the shoe is on the other foot, they want to be the spirit of competition.
I mentioned Compass and Southern Cross because I was directly involved with them, however it goes way deeper than that even. Ansett have stifled any competition as I said for decades, there are many but including ANA, Butler Air transport and EastWest to name a few.
Surely even anyone that thinks Ansett is the greatest airline in the world, MUST cringe at using that slogan????
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Lame,
I don't cringe at any slogan that Ansett use at the moment. Why? Because it means that we are still in business!
Being one of the very fortunate few still doing some regular flying, it is both heartening and devastating to see the (ever increasing) customer count.
But if we do fail - permanently - I just hope that I will be able to move on fairly quickly. The last thing I want is to partake of Pprune therapy lots of years down the track.
Having felt the mind numbing shock of an airline grounding, I feel I know a little of how you must have felt. But, lame, you must put it behind you at some point, and concentrate on the poignant memories instead.
Eecam.
Kurunch,
To you I say.........ah, what's it matter, it'd be wasted on you anyway!
I don't cringe at any slogan that Ansett use at the moment. Why? Because it means that we are still in business!
Being one of the very fortunate few still doing some regular flying, it is both heartening and devastating to see the (ever increasing) customer count.
But if we do fail - permanently - I just hope that I will be able to move on fairly quickly. The last thing I want is to partake of Pprune therapy lots of years down the track.
Having felt the mind numbing shock of an airline grounding, I feel I know a little of how you must have felt. But, lame, you must put it behind you at some point, and concentrate on the poignant memories instead.
Eecam.
Kurunch,
To you I say.........ah, what's it matter, it'd be wasted on you anyway!
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Eecam,
I sincerely hope you never know what it is like to have two Airlines you work for collapse, through no fault of yours.
While it has ruined my life, and that of my family, I do have very many pleasant memories of Compass and Southern Cross to look back on, thank you.
I also have many pleasant memories of the 28 years I spent with Ansett.
However while I wish you and all at Ansett the best of luck, I STILL think it is gross hypocrisy for Ansett to use such a slogan.
Best regards,
"lame"
I sincerely hope you never know what it is like to have two Airlines you work for collapse, through no fault of yours.
While it has ruined my life, and that of my family, I do have very many pleasant memories of Compass and Southern Cross to look back on, thank you.
I also have many pleasant memories of the 28 years I spent with Ansett.
However while I wish you and all at Ansett the best of luck, I STILL think it is gross hypocrisy for Ansett to use such a slogan.
Best regards,
"lame"
Moderate, Modest & Mild.
Eecam, lame's point is that Ansett fell over because of financial mismanagement and abuse - it was "self-inflicted", and for those on the outside looking in came as no surprise, except perhaps the speed with which it happened in the last week.
Compass (and perhaps Southern Cross) was a victim of dirty, underhanded tactics (jamming of their switch to name one, Ansett staff in uniform standing at Compass boarding gates with counters in hand, etc.) carried out by Ansett cronies - in hindsight perhaps desperation to ensure Ansett would survive a little longer, so that it could be well and truly milked!
It was TNT Security, one of the Ansett family, that stormed the Compass aircraft SS style to prevent them from flying.
Try to distance yourself from Ansett, read the reports on Operation {whatsitsname?} that showed how all the dirty tricks that could be used, were, for weeks prior to the collapse - personally I tend to think that Abeles had the chairman in his pocket, and the $10m scam was exactly that - and see if you can draw a balanced conclusion as to why lame feels thatit is ironic for Ansett to be talking of competition. After all Ansett HAS had its @rse well and truly whooped, and has FAILED as a competitor with QANTAS and Virgin Blue. It only survives NOW by Government money, and not through any strategies of its own!
All of this is Australian aviation history. How would YOU react 10 or 15 years down the track, IF Ansett were to survive, to be told by someone who is still "in nappies" now, but acting as F/O for you, that the collapse of Ansett in 2001 means diddly sh!t to him because the slate was wiped clean on the day that HE started work?
Aviation is a very small world, and has a cyclical history. Lame has worked for 3 Australian airlines (to my knowledge) - you are still only with your first.
Compass (and perhaps Southern Cross) was a victim of dirty, underhanded tactics (jamming of their switch to name one, Ansett staff in uniform standing at Compass boarding gates with counters in hand, etc.) carried out by Ansett cronies - in hindsight perhaps desperation to ensure Ansett would survive a little longer, so that it could be well and truly milked!
It was TNT Security, one of the Ansett family, that stormed the Compass aircraft SS style to prevent them from flying.
Try to distance yourself from Ansett, read the reports on Operation {whatsitsname?} that showed how all the dirty tricks that could be used, were, for weeks prior to the collapse - personally I tend to think that Abeles had the chairman in his pocket, and the $10m scam was exactly that - and see if you can draw a balanced conclusion as to why lame feels thatit is ironic for Ansett to be talking of competition. After all Ansett HAS had its @rse well and truly whooped, and has FAILED as a competitor with QANTAS and Virgin Blue. It only survives NOW by Government money, and not through any strategies of its own!
All of this is Australian aviation history. How would YOU react 10 or 15 years down the track, IF Ansett were to survive, to be told by someone who is still "in nappies" now, but acting as F/O for you, that the collapse of Ansett in 2001 means diddly sh!t to him because the slate was wiped clean on the day that HE started work?
Aviation is a very small world, and has a cyclical history. Lame has worked for 3 Australian airlines (to my knowledge) - you are still only with your first.
