DJ talking to all players
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Anyone know further of DJ out there talking to all manufacturers for the supply of 30+ jets, with the possibility of dumping the current fleet not ruled out ?
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Yeah I know I always think its must be bullocks when the source of the information for an article is not based upon info sourced from pprune, this is an article from "The Age". .. .Virgin ponders end of relationship with Boeing. .. .By Stathi Paxinos Aviation Reporter. .. .March 14 2002. .. .Virgin Blue may dump aircraft manufacturer Boeing as its fleet provider later this year. Virgin chief executive Brett Godfrey said the discount carrier, which has 16 Boeing 737s and will take delivery of seven more by November, would be asking Airbus for a proposal to supply about 20 aircraft.. .. .Mr Godfrey said Virgin had previously employed an "opportunistic" policy in its fleet purchasing but would change tack after its recent merger with Chris Corrigan's Patrick Corporation. With Patrick having injected $260 million cash for a 50 per cent stake, Sir Richard Branson's Virgin Blue has earmarked the funds for the purchase of Ansett's assets such as terminals and maintenance facilities.. .. ."Chris (Corrigan) and Richard (Branson) have agreed that with this additional funding, and if we are to look at (former Ansett) terminals, then we will have to seriously go out and solicit a tender process for a 2003-2004 delivery, so we could be looking at an up to 20 aircraft delivery," Mr Godfrey said.. .. .The fleet change would be a blow for Boeing. South African Airways has announced it will be making a phased shift from its all-Boeing fleet to Airbuses.. .. ."We have been entertaining Airbus as of late and we are talking to them about putting a proposal to us which may involve a fleet switch, but I've got to be frank: it has to be a pretty good deal for us to consider," Mr Godfrey said. "We have these aeroplanes (Boeing 737) for 10years, I love them to bits. Frankly it's going to take a super, super deal for me to even consider looking at any other type but there's a lot of transition involved in that.". .. .If a deal with Airbus were made, Virgin would maintain its one-aircraft fleet policy, meaning its current fleet would be replaced. Airbus and Boeing spokesmen were unable yesterday to confirm the status of negotiations with Virgin.
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Airbus are giving their aircraft away at the moment. I'll bet Boeing come good at the last hour with a better deal. It's Australia's second domestic Airline, and Boeing know there'll be big orders from downunder once Corrigan/Branson get their act together.
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Sounds like a typical "play one off against the other supplier for the lowest price possible deal routine". .. . Surely it must seem obvious for the manufactures to go all out "whatever it takes" to win the business. After all is considered, at lot of jobs within boeing and airbus depend on it.. .. . This game will go on for a while, the slick presentations and all the entertaining that goes with it will be lapped up. The best offer all 'round will be the victor. This will be seen by all as the way to go...a true market dominance.. .. . I personally would like to see them stay with Boeing. Boeing must work smarter, faster and minimize costs before anything real happens.
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The purchase price of an aeroplane is only a small part of the equation when you consider an airline will operate an aircraft for, say, 10 years or more. The real cost is maintaining the beast, its realibility (ie, the lost revenue whilst the aircraft is on the ground. This includes the cost of lost repeat business), and fuel just to name a few. In the case of virgin, I would hazard a guess, they would also have to include the cost of converting all their staff over to the new type, not just tech crew, FAs, and engineers, but in fact anybody who has any contact with an aeroplane.
