NSW Air Ambulance contract
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Ramjager. .Yes, the King Air does carry two stretchers but, not two standard ambulance stretchers as does the PC12. <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">
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Bear in mind that the Tassie RFDS aircraft crosses water operating to Mel and Syd. In this case the twin engine King Air is more feasible, and more acceptable to the ambulance union.
Bear in mind that the Tassie RFDS aircraft crosses water operating to Mel and Syd. In this case the twin engine King Air is more feasible, and more acceptable to the ambulance union.
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I hear that Central section were requested to provide a PC12 for inspection at Sydney a week or two ago. Anyone care to elaborate on how it was received?
Looks like the writing is on the wall hear chaps.
Looks like the writing is on the wall hear chaps.
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guys and gals, just curiosity here but arent the stretcher assemblies used in each of the king air contracts different. For example, out of sydney the NSW stretcher assemblies in the amblulances and planes are different to say the NT. The NSW assemblies allow for a stretcher base to be easily tranferred with patient, where as here the king airs have a slightly different setup where the patient has to wAlk, be carried or tranferred between the lift and the ambulance stretcher on a spinal scoop, slide-board or sheet.
The aircraft interiors will depend on the assemblies the ambulance provider has. Both work well so long as everyone is prepared. The NT version has slightly more risk in some respects to the crews.
Its not very often up here ambo crews fly so we have very little say in the aircraft contracts. NT health supplies the nursing staff and I believe it is a similar system where NSW air ambulance provides the registered flight nurses not the contractor. The paramedics may fly from time to time with helos but rarely on the fixed wings. So all in all, I guess the accountants will have the final say.
The Kingairs supplied by NSW air ambulance were clocking up some hours then, but they were beautifully maintained.
Me, I dont mind either way... single or twin. So long as its easy to load / unload, safe for the patients, fast, quiet and easy for pilots to operate.
The aircraft interiors will depend on the assemblies the ambulance provider has. Both work well so long as everyone is prepared. The NT version has slightly more risk in some respects to the crews.
Its not very often up here ambo crews fly so we have very little say in the aircraft contracts. NT health supplies the nursing staff and I believe it is a similar system where NSW air ambulance provides the registered flight nurses not the contractor. The paramedics may fly from time to time with helos but rarely on the fixed wings. So all in all, I guess the accountants will have the final say.
The Kingairs supplied by NSW air ambulance were clocking up some hours then, but they were beautifully maintained.
Me, I dont mind either way... single or twin. So long as its easy to load / unload, safe for the patients, fast, quiet and easy for pilots to operate.
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I have information that its looking more and more like a PC12 fleet or at best a mixed fleet of at least two PC12's and one B200, all brand new aircraft. This is not a prefered option though.. .. .The new PC12's in Central section are currently being fitted for standard stretchers however they may not be able to trade stretchers maintained to uncontrolled standards. The new PC12's TAS at about 255kts at 25000ft Vs a new King Air at 280kts. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />
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Given that many pilots are struggling to handle just one inflight emergency at a time, can anyone tell me where a PC12 operator may find enough ace pilots capable of handling the multiple emergency that faces said intrepid aces when the noise stops in the dark.. .Think about your last renewal. Could you confidently handle an engine failure, loss of pressurisation, diversion to alternate strip,key up PAL lights and dead stick landing, not to mention dead stick instrument approach all at once ? And more to the point, I bet you'd reckon your checker was a real prick if he expected you to do so.. .Lovely toy, just a pity gravity wins when the motor quits. Wouldn't want my kids on board in IMC.
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Even if the B200 wins this time, it will most likely be the last battle. I'm afraid the writing is on the wall.. .. .Just look at all of the new generation aircraft on the horizon (Eclipse, Venture, Cirrus ST50, Explorer 750T & the PC12 lookalike - Ae270 IBIS etc etc). Most of the new generation aircraft are either single PT6 or single turbofan.. .. .Like it or not - the single engine 6-16 seater is the future.
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Actually justfun, if you can get a hold of the RFDS or Aboriginal Air Services PC-12 Operations Manual, you will learn that a standard proficiency check covers all the events covered in your scenario happening at the same time (bar the depressurisation)! The anticipated cabin pressure bleed down rate and aircraft glide performance, apart from a catastrophic failure of some part of the pressure vessel, gives ample time to slip an oxy mask on etc. The scenario you paint is not that much of a demanding drama in this machine as you might imagine it to be. I consider myself to be an average pilot who received good training on the machine. Recency is the key. Please talk to a current PC-12 pilot about operating the machine. You will be reassured.
