Jetstar pilot life expectancy
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I have just completed my medical. Apparently little Alan was quite outspoken at a recent forum attended by a number of DAMEs. He said he expects JQ pilots to burn out in 6 to 7 years, but he is not worried, they will be easy to replace. Aussies overseas are becoming more desperate to return home. The most recent 330 recruiteing program has proved this. He also confirmed AWA's will be introduced at JQ.
JQ International pilots will all be doing 930 hours per annum
I called another DAME mate who confirmed the statements were made.
Nice to know he is thinking of the welfare of his pilots and doing something positive about it!!!
JQ International pilots will all be doing 930 hours per annum
I called another DAME mate who confirmed the statements were made.
Nice to know he is thinking of the welfare of his pilots and doing something positive about it!!!
Wont cost him a cent to replace them.
Whispering "T" Jet
Abuse of sick leave could push it out to 10 or 11.
How can you abuse sick leave when you use your full quota every year?
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Just like GA?
It appears that the airlines and the airline pilots are exploting each other just like many pilots and companies in GA do. To the extreme.
It is supply and demand, and the supply is excessive, due to the flying schools feeding "feelgood fairy stories" to the wannabies in order to make money.i
Many of these wannabies then find out what the situation really is, and prostitute themselves to try and get ahead of their "mates", and do great harm to GA in the process. The airlines love it. So do the flying schools. But it is only the second rate GA companies that love it.They can get cheap pilots.Their old aeroplanes have new paint, and new pilots, many of whom are out of their depth..
Are we really surprised that this is now starting to happen in our airline system? . Let's face it. Many of the airline pilots are the same "wannabies" who prostituted themselves to get where they are.
Are some of them still doing it? Have the airline pilots in this country developed a culture that says "bugger it I am going to look after me, no matter what it takes. Ethics, honesty, and fair play are only for losers"
Todays airline pilots have set these standards. It's coming back to bite you.
It is supply and demand, and the supply is excessive, due to the flying schools feeding "feelgood fairy stories" to the wannabies in order to make money.i
Many of these wannabies then find out what the situation really is, and prostitute themselves to try and get ahead of their "mates", and do great harm to GA in the process. The airlines love it. So do the flying schools. But it is only the second rate GA companies that love it.They can get cheap pilots.Their old aeroplanes have new paint, and new pilots, many of whom are out of their depth..
Are we really surprised that this is now starting to happen in our airline system? . Let's face it. Many of the airline pilots are the same "wannabies" who prostituted themselves to get where they are.
Are some of them still doing it? Have the airline pilots in this country developed a culture that says "bugger it I am going to look after me, no matter what it takes. Ethics, honesty, and fair play are only for losers"
Todays airline pilots have set these standards. It's coming back to bite you.
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Dear Aussie, it appears that it is a cut a paste link and then it works fine.
Yes it appears that it is GA in Airbus'
You pay them and then they send you at your expense to NZ to not be subsidised etc.
$37k NZ for endo
4-5k for accomodation and food and god knows what pay you have missed out on. Works out about $40k AU at least to then be at the mercy of Dixo and the lepricorn. They show you no proffesional respect by treating you as GA scum, so we will see down the track if the J* pilot group have warm fuzzy feelings for the company, or treat it as just another GA outfit
All they need is a few old GA cronies as the Chief Pirate
Yes it appears that it is GA in Airbus'
You pay them and then they send you at your expense to NZ to not be subsidised etc.
$37k NZ for endo
4-5k for accomodation and food and god knows what pay you have missed out on. Works out about $40k AU at least to then be at the mercy of Dixo and the lepricorn. They show you no proffesional respect by treating you as GA scum, so we will see down the track if the J* pilot group have warm fuzzy feelings for the company, or treat it as just another GA outfit
All they need is a few old GA cronies as the Chief Pirate
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sake, whatever you Pornstar guys do, do not let the company introduce an AWA.
Having worked under that system for many years I can tell you it is absolutely, unequivically,a piece of, unless you are management in which case you'll love it.
sake, whatever you Pornstar guys do, do not let the company introduce an AWA.Having worked under that system for many years I can tell you it is absolutely, unequivically,a piece of
, unless you are management in which case you'll love it.
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You pay them and then they send you at your expense to NZ to not be subsidised etc.
$37k NZ for endo
4-5k for accomodation and food and god knows what pay you have missed out on. Works out about $40k AU at least to then be at the mercy of Dixo and the lepricorn
$37k NZ for endo
4-5k for accomodation and food and god knows what pay you have missed out on. Works out about $40k AU at least to then be at the mercy of Dixo and the lepricorn
Have a read of some of the other threads regarding Ryanair etc plus a host of other Lo Co's
The only way this kind of exploitation is going to stop is if you guys stick together...however with the state of GA in Oz at the moment, I cant see it happening. So get used to it.
The other point to remember here too is that people BEGIN their careers in European LCC. So whilst the Ryanair deal sucks you spend a few years there then move onto a bigger and better things. In Australia it's the END OF THE LINE if you wish to remain living in Australia. After going through the GA experience in this country we do not want it repeated again in the airlines. Otherwise you will essentially spend your life in an apprenticeship never progressing and paying for the priviledge.
Doing 900 hours plus p.a. equates to over 90 per month. (Assuming 42 days leave p.a.)
Assuming 6 weeks leave, a pilot works 10.5 months a year. 900 hours divided by 10.5 months is about 86 hours a month. Or based on 46 weeks work, about 20 hours a week. Say four hours a day(average) over a five day week.
Nice work if you can get it.
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Originally Posted by Icarus2001
Say four hours a day(average) over a five day week.
Nice work if you can get it.
Nice work if you can get it.
ML-CS (overnight)
CS-BN-PH (overnight)
PH-BN-CS (overnight)
CS-SY-AD (overnight)
AD-ML-HB-ML HOME!!!
2 days off
Start again.
Maybe not the exact route network but this would roughly equate to 20 hours in 5 days.
Nice work if you can get it.
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Icarus2001 you must be a bean counter to arrive at those figures. You have not factored in days off per month (normally 8) and my base figure was 900 hours plus.
Neat average though and as you say, "Nice work if you can get it."
Reality is Cactus Jak's scenario !
Good try.
Neat average though and as you say, "Nice work if you can get it."
Reality is Cactus Jak's scenario !
Good try.
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Cactus Jack JQ does not do overnights
A typical pattern is
SYD - AVV - SYD - MCO - SYD
SYD - AVV -SYD - MCO - SYD
SYD - CNS - SYD
SYD - OOL - SYD - OOL - SYD
Pilots are blocked to between 85 and 90 hours per month
A typical pattern is
SYD - AVV - SYD - MCO - SYD
SYD - AVV -SYD - MCO - SYD
SYD - CNS - SYD
SYD - OOL - SYD - OOL - SYD
Pilots are blocked to between 85 and 90 hours per month
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If this is true, then surely those health professionals that were in attendance have an obligation to inform CASA, the health department and also workcover. Can they not be found negligent by the medical standards board if they fail to report such concerns?
If J* are aware of potential health risks, then aren't they also bound to take steps to minimise risk?
Some canny lawyers would have a field day with this, if it's true.
If J* are aware of potential health risks, then aren't they also bound to take steps to minimise risk?
Some canny lawyers would have a field day with this, if it's true.