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Saab Dastard 19th February 2014 15:57

They aren't phantom pages - there are real posts that are not easily accessible.

The problem is known and under investigation. Please report:

1. A link to the thread it's happening on
2. Your browser and version number
3. The time stamp of the most recent post you are able to view, and the member who made it
4. The page number of the most recent post, and the # of last page of the thread
6. We assume that when you are seeing this issue, you're logged in as the username you're reporting it as; if you're not logged in or logged in under another name, let us know
7. Any browser add-ons or plug-ins installed - e.g. ad blockers.
8. Your physical location (country)

Thanks

SD

IBobi 19th February 2014 18:12

Henry, I am also seeing page 118, last post at the moment is #2345, timestamp 19th Feb 2014, 08:38by Lonewolf 50.

Is that not what you are seeing? I have never seen a phantom page and I'm trying to track one down. Please also report the data that Saab posted if you could -- it will help a lot in determining what the issue is.

henry_crun 19th February 2014 19:51

IBobi - yes, page 418 is now filling up nicely. It was a phantom but now the posts have caught up and started to fill it.

What happens is the page generator gets a few posts ahead. For example on Last Two Letters we know it is one post ahead. Suppose we are on page 500. The phantom page 501 appears when we get to post 20 and then of course the next post is the first on page 501, no longer a phantom.

To view a phantom, simply go to a known phantom thread, usually a long one, and add posts until you get to post 20 on that page.

We suspect the page counter confusion originates from a deletion, either a post deleted by a mod, or a post deleted by the person who posted it. Part of the software thinks it is there and provides pages accordingly. Another part of the software puts posts on pages and knows that one is gone.

Pease don't fix Last Two Letters, we love our phantom and nurture it :p

IBobi 19th February 2014 20:03

I just added posts until http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/5205...-xxii-472.html filled up to the end of the page, and it did not generate a phantom page.

Have you tried this? I did it in such a short period of time, there is no way it was corrected by the cleanup script. Having a really hard time reproducing this.

henry_crun 19th February 2014 20:17

Hurrah - got one, it's kicking and struggling a bit but I trapped it in a zz-spiral-z-alpha spookomatic camera:

http://mike-wsm.org.uk/zpp127.jpg

As you can see it is on page 118 but is showing a phantom page 119 which will not actually appear until post 2361.

IBobi 19th February 2014 20:18

Link to the thread please?

EDIT--scratch that, I got it and I can see the phantom page. But there are no "real posts" on that page -- it is the existing error we're aware of.

Thank you

henry_crun 19th February 2014 20:25

Glad to help :ok:

david1300 20th February 2014 05:59

Here's a live one today, just experienced:
http://i62.tinypic.com/2ep125g.jpg

1. A link to the thread it's happening on: War in Australia in JetBlast
2. Your browser and version number: Google Chrome - don't know version number
3. The time stamp of the most recent post you are able to view, and the member who made it - see piccie
4. The page number of the most recent post, and the # of last page of the thread - see piccie
6. We assume that when you are seeing this issue, you're logged in as the username you're reporting it as; if you're not logged in or logged in under another name, let us know - only 1 username: David1300
7. Any browser add-ons or plug-ins installed - e.g. ad blockers. Not that I'm aware of
8. Your physical location (country) Australia

IBobi 20th February 2014 20:43

Thank you for that report David -- please keep them coming if you see them, everyone!

coldair 24th February 2014 21:30

There's a few phantoms here ;

http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/483...-nepal-82.html

BOAC 20th June 2014 09:52

ibobi - if you stick your head under the bonnet again, at 0948GMT http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/5...tact-lost.html is showing 3 'missing' posts on a 'phantom page' (559 in my case) and if I click on the 'last post' blue icon it takes me to the top of the last active page.

Win7,64bit, Firefox28

Make this thread a sticky?

EDIT: For bonnet read 'hood', sorry..................

PPRuNe Towers 20th June 2014 10:21

I use a cache cleaner and it's never so far failed to instantly get rid of a phantom page in the last few months. There has been a significant number, especially on the thread BOAC mentions, and has been an absolute boon.

Rob

Booglebox 20th June 2014 14:33

Phantom page report! :8
1.http://www.pprune.org/biz-jets-ag-fl...embourg-9.html
2. Firefox 24.6 ESR
3. 5th Aug 2012, 21:11 / "zerograv"
4. 9 and 10
6. N/A
7. Adblock Plus
8. Austria

BOAC 20th June 2014 15:26

That's bizarre. The last post is the one shown by zerograv in 2012.

Let's hope IB can fix this like they did the 'search'.

IBobi 20th June 2014 18:46

We'll take a look. I also see no evidence there are posts in the Global Luxembourg thread newer than 2012 -- are you sure they're there? I can't even fin the thread in the forum list at all either -- have to do a forum search to locate.

FYI, phantom page issues will continue to pop up and can't always be remedied. There is a glitch in VB and sometimes there is nothing to be done. But I will ask tech to job the server and see what happens.

Paul

BOAC 20th June 2014 19:19


are you sure they're there?
- no - that's the point - they ain't!


I can't even fin the thread in the forum list at all either -- have to do a forum search to locate.
- just click on Boogle's link to save the pain.

IBobi 20th June 2014 22:35

From tech:

This is running, should correct within 24 hours.

BOAC 21st June 2014 06:52

Sorted, thanks IBobi - does tech know what the problem is in VB?

IBobi 23rd June 2014 22:06

Yes, and it's a core glitch that they can't address directly, thus the workaround of periodically re-running a cleanup script.

P.

BOAC 24th June 2014 16:58

IBobi - your mods have been about with their machetes again on R&N - can tech run the script again soon?

IBobi 25th June 2014 18:42

It has run again last night.

Kbboca 24th March 2015 22:25

Phantom Page #18 in GermanWings crash thread
 
Can someone remind me how to clear my browser so as to view a "phantom page?" I seem to recall some workaround being posted once upon a time in either one of the AF447 threads or the MH370 thread.

Tonight, page 18 in the GermanWings crash in the French Alps thread will not display.

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/5...france-18.html

Instead, page 14 shows up.

Any help?

PPRuNe Towers 24th March 2015 23:39

Find yourself a cache cleaning utility

Rob

Dingo63 26th March 2015 17:09

Is this a Firefox thing, because I've been having trouble after reading a few pages.. I have to clear the cache/history and then start again and it fixes it. Weird.


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