I'm with Gonzo.

When we're on holiday abroad, the PVR is set to record all the stuff she likes to follow. I get asked sometimes to get specific stuff on iPlayer, but that won't work abroad.

So I connect to the home VPN, and she watches it happily via that. Is that legal? Does anyone care?

I can see that the BBC is concerned to protect its income, but once stuff has been transmitted "free to air" it is a bit "out in the open", innit.

........and I'm with Keef/Gonzo too, on the 'out of uk' bit. Again, issuing a 'key' to UK based licence holders would solve that.

Gonzo - I had no intent to 'unfriend' you and if you read it that way I'm sorry. I'm afraid the twists and turns of what you buy where are losing me!

Regarding my initial 'enquiry', as you can see I believe I should be free to record downloaded Iplayer stuff for personal use. I just cannot see the issue.

NB IF we must put up with this DRM thing, I am more than happy to work with it as long as I can play said DVD on my own TV in my own house which is served by a TV licence. I guess scores of people do this and I asked how.

We have sorted out this nonsense about not even being able to record live TV, so why not address this too?

If we are now voting for who we are with/against, (ed: FFS, really???)................
then I'm voting with mixture on the legal stuff. I hate DRM, and those that over use it, but I suspect that mixture is correct.

I asked swmbo, the family's lawyer, and she said that the whole argument is pathetic, and we ought to have better things to do...........

Don't let SWMBO get a sight of JB then !

- hey - we could start a poll!

No-one is saying 'mixture is wrong'. Milo is wrong about recording according to the TV licensing department.

By the way - got it on DVD from last night. Thanks vulcan. - no - she will not enjoy that. She might even bring a few law-suits.

An update with good news:

With grateful thanks to a PPruner I received a link to 'get_Iplayer' (essentially written for Linux, and which downloads the Iphone material by 'simulating' an Iphone) which installed fine on Win7, and allows scheduling and recording of IPlayer stuff in MP4 format like a PVR. I also then found an open-source burner, 'DVD Flick', which (somewhat slowly!) converts MP4 to DVD format and then burns to DVD.

Job done.