Are you sending out via the righht server? My BT Broadband line dictates that I send via smtp.mail.yahoo.com, at least that's what I have set, and it works.

Ark - you still with us?

For a btinternet.com email address both incoming and outgoing servers should read mail.btinternet.com

EGTE - Whilst yours may be set up that way, my btmail inbound server is mail.btinternet.com and my outbound server is smtp.btinternet.com. It certainly works ok :cool:

Who said their ISP forced them to use Windows Live Mail?

One of the people in the 'I hate Windows Live Mail' link.

I too just purchased a new Dell laptop with Windows 7 Ultimate.

Outlook comes with Microsoft Office Professional 2010. You can download a trial version of Office from the Microsoft web site. I bought Office 2010 with my new laptop so I have Outlook.

I also have Windows XP running as a virtual PC in a window. It has Outlook Express.

You can also download VMware, a virtual machine, and then install Windows XP which has Outlook Express.

By the way. On my new Dell I have Windows 7 Ultimate, Windows XP in a window and Linux in another window. Virtual machines are wonderful.

Bill

Back from a few days away from this glitch.

Wodrick: Tried change of Port, still no send, same error box

BOAC: Yes, still here, and indeed working in the Advanced tag.

spanners: Yes, in both Servers and advanced tags, I set 'This server requires SSL' for outgoing just as works fine on my XP machine. No joy with Win 7 however. No joy with boxes unchecked either btw.

Loose Nuts: I downloaded T'bird and used its auto set up. It set up 'mail.yahoo' as the servers and I couldn't send or receive. Manually changing to 'mail.btinternet.' Didn't work either.

Beags: I got Office 2010 Home and Student with the computer, but neither OE nor OE Express is included. Damn


Had a look at all those frustrated comments in the hate forum. Why would Microsoft take such a step backwards?

I assume (if I ever get this to work) that my emails are no longer stored on my computer at all, but left on the server at the whim of Yahoo or BT to delete as they wish? Hardly satisfacory if you want to keep something important is it?

Now back to Thunderbird, see if I can get it to work.

So much valuable time being wasted on something which should be so easy. It used to be!

Ah! Eureka! A measure of success!

I downloaded Thunderbird again. still didn't work, but noted the Port for outgoing was 465. Went back to dreaded Live Mail, and change outgoing Mail Port to 465 (not 587, Wodrick) and bingo! it works.

Now to get Thunderbird to work too, and Live Mail can be ignored

Good to see progress!
"my emails are no longer stored on my computer at all," - most progs (OE does, anyway, have an option to 'leave email on server' which can be changed. I would have thought that if you are accessing yahoo mail via an email client rather than by web access the email would always be downloaded to your machine?

Confused now.

In Thunderbird, using default settings, I get nowhere. No send or receive.

But Changing the incoming Port from the Default 995 to 110 (same as Live Mail) I get a message at the bottom of the screen 'connected to mail.btinternet.com' and the 'green worm' running ion the bottom right corner of the screen as if mail is being collected. And that just goes on and on and on, with no mail arriving!

btw, for a real computer numpty, what do these Port numbers mean?

I use both BT-Yahoo mail and Hot-mail I've never had to install anything to read them either using XP or Windows 7.

A port means an endpoint to a logical connection. The port number identifies what type of port it is. Here are the default email ports for:

DC9, welcome to the strange regressive world of Windows 7. Mine came with a link to Windows Media player IIRC. Once loaded, works perfectly.

Really find it hard to understand why 7's so poor compared to XP, or am I just being old!

Thanks Airborne, that explains things a bit better. Still can't see why Thunderbird can't receive on port 110. Looking at the BTYahoo site email help area, they do not list Thunderbird as a supported email client, so that might be the trouble. Thunderbird was so confident that it could automatically set up POP3 from just an email address too. It can't.

I'm getting more used to Live Mail now, but it is soooo clunky compared to Outlook Express, and I can see why it would be of no use to someone with a high rate of mail useage.

Next big snag is to populate my Contacts with my OE address book which I saved on another networked computer running XP!

Thanks for everyone's help

- not so big?

Import contacts in Windows Live Mail

Thanks BOAC

I'd becomed conditioned to just about everything in 7 to defy 1st attempts and to require much effort to achieve something that is not only difficult, but should have been unnecessary.

I'll give that a try.

It's their stupid, geeky, 'hippy village' ethos where everyone is supposed to want to share everything with everyone else. The culture of Twatter, Farsebook etc....

They don't seem to understand privacy, simplicity and user choice.

Fortunately I'm now back to a high-speed computer with WinXP SP3, IE8, OE and even good old Photo Editor. Even my Hotmail back-up is configured to be accessed using OE rather than through the MS website...:ok:

Screw b****y Windows Live Mail Messenger Photo Gallery - slow, clunky, horrible graphics and lack of functionality. An utter crock!!

did you ever try the BT help software, it does sort problems like this out, or it has for me when things have gone a bit funny?

Ark me old shipmate,

Have you followed the BTYahoo Thunderbird duffers' guide at

Set up your BT Total Broadband features | Your email | Thunderbird ?

Opera - Opera browser | Faster & safer internet | Free download - incorporates/integrates an excellent email client into its excellent (cross-platform and free) browser

Not as popular as Firefox, but faster, more stable and better integrated than the FF/T'bird combo

I'm surprised than more people don't use Opera - to my mind the best browser of all.

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