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mustpost 5th June 2009 20:29

Rivets...Adobe CS4 (all) installed ok without virtual machine etc, and have you tried Control Panel 'Troubleshooting - find and fix problems/run programs for previous versions etc? Not sure what it's doing to the registry, but it sure as hell works, and quick - made a lot of xp things operate fine...

This could be a first/second, for what it was Windaes 95 wasn't bad for its time. This is way ahead of Vista (and so it should be)

Loose rivets 6th June 2009 04:46


Adobe CS4 (all) installed ok without virtual machine etc
Is it free? One asks, because sometime the request for a bank card only comes after filling in a six mile long form.



I installed the Adobe reader 9 and agreed to the terms. Tonight, a shortcut appeared to Adobe Air (Tm) which asks me to sign again. I'm hesitant to just say okay to this, cos I don't really have time for fixing nasties. It looks very professional, but so have some real scams. Anyone know what this is?

A pal recommended Primo Pdf today. It seems that it will create a pdf file by selecting it as the printer. Sounds quite useful, any users of this freebie.

green granite 6th June 2009 06:26


Adobe CS4 (all) installed ok without virtual machine etc

Is it free? One asks, because sometime the request for a bank card only comes after filling in a six mile long form.

No it's around $2500, but there is a trial version for free

frostbite 6th June 2009 11:47

Best pdf reader I've come across is Foxit (free), which also allows you to add text if required.

green granite 6th June 2009 12:33

Agreed about foxit, it's very good.

hellsbrink 6th June 2009 14:43

It sure is, and uses far less resources than Adobe does.

An update on this machine. Still trying to find a conflict with stuff I had on Vista. So far everything has just gone in smoothly and my AV scan actually goes faster than it did with the clean install of XP I did a week ago.......

Scary, M$ produced an OS that seems to work (so far)

hellsbrink 6th June 2009 15:34

By the way, for those looking for a Firewall

I'm running Avira AV and Comodo Internet Security (firewall only) on this thing under W7 with no issues. Both are freeware, but I can't remember the link to CIS. PM me with your email and I can send you it.


Sure, you have to teach it like you do with ZoneAlarm, but it went in with no problems whatsoever......... I could say "pick a decent firewall", as it has been proven, but I won't.......

Loose rivets 6th June 2009 17:11


the first time you use it you have to agree to the licence?
As mentioned, I'd signed the usual thing during the installation, but this appeared after opening it. As you say, maybe that was my first use being detected.



No it's around $2500,
Is that all? I'll have two.:}


The little Solve Issues button on the task bar keeps popping up with warnings. One is telling me to get an Anti-virus. The other is saying that this version of Skype has compatibility issues with this OS. I thought this had been sorted on install, and since it has been running to perfection - after weeks of popping and clicking on the old OS - I'm loath to change it. I wish I could get rid of the warning. Cancel that...I've just Archived it.

Now to address the AV issues. It offers help here, but since the Avast seemed very likely to have been involved in my Skype problems, I need to be careful which to select. W7 anti-virus? Any strong opinions on this?

The Action Center says that it is working closely with these AV software companies.

* McAfee
* Panda
* Trend Micro
* Symantec
* Kaspersky Lab
* F-Secure
* AVG

The funny thing is, when I first looked, the list was different. When I nipped back to have a reminder, it had changed. Norton was there, but McAfee wasn't. Maybe they've agreed that never will they be seen on the same page!

hellsbrink 7th June 2009 05:16

As I said, Loose Rivets, I'm running Comodo Internet Security firewall (it has AV too, but I didn't install that) and Avira AV. Both 100% free, both installed seamlessly on W7 and they are not bloatware in the way AVG has gone recently.

green granite 7th June 2009 07:22

I too am running Commodo FW, but would just prefer ZA.

Don't try using super anti-spyware with W7 it screws up big time, well it does on mine m/c.

mustpost 7th June 2009 08:17

Aha - found a fault with mine..When shutting down via start or keyboard button, power supply stays on. Guess some bios alterations are about to take place :(

green granite 7th June 2009 08:24

That's normal for most systems nowadays, it facilitates such things as "wake up on LAN activity" etc. I just switch my entire system off at the mains plug after I've shut down for the night which kills everything, when I sw on at the plug in the morning it starts automatically.

mustpost 7th June 2009 10:05

Yes, disabled the lan activity power settings and enabling ACPI settings on my motherboard solved the problem, but a lot of other testers are having the same issue, and it's not something the average user should have to deal with...:uhoh:

Loose rivets 7th June 2009 17:07

I meant to mention, to Keef in particular, that the Hibernate seems to work very quickly. Like pulling the plug out. Back in business in about 15 secs! BUT, Skype, the one thing I'd intentionally left running, always puts itself away.

Yes, I'd elected to have to start Skype on normal start up, indeed most things really. Same reason I don't like Fly by Wire in airplanes...just want to do my own thing. :hmm:

Maybe, this is what the Solve Issues update is about...but dare I try it when otherwise it's working so well? I think I'll wait until my wife and I are on the same side of the Atlantic.

Loose rivets 7th June 2009 22:34

Oh, NO! This can't be.


One of the tools that I have loved over the years is Coral's QuickView Plus. When I load Word Perfect 8...yes, I know, but I'm old too...anyway, I always load that accessory as well. It gives the option on right click of looking into more file types than you can shake a stick at. W7, it just won't load. WP's going well, but QV just does not respond in the setup menu.

Is there another powerful file viewer that will load in this way. ie accessed quickly to see pix text or even code.

While writing, I use Quick Correct a lot. For example, for Maria Celeste I type ms, and so on. Every time I install WP, I can not carry all the shortcuts over. Not even with a template .wpd QV Plus would have let me look into many of the Coral directories to look for signs of these words and hopefully swap it with the standard file.


No, I'm not writing about that lovely girl that G**gle finds, but something that was named after Galileo's daughter.

fly-by-wife 7th June 2009 22:45

Sounds like a candidate for Windows 7 spiffy new compatibility mode, if it worked under XP.

Go on, I'm sure you'll have no problems with it!

FBW

frostbite 8th June 2009 11:40

Irfan viewer might be what you're looking for.

Loose rivets 8th June 2009 16:22

It looks a good program, but hugely more than I need. QuickView Plus is so simple the only evidence it's there is the name on right click menu.

Compatibility seems to do the same as the menu itself.:confused: When installing Coral, one Runs the Setup and is given a blue square in the middle of the screen asking which progs you want. Word processing loads as normal, but coming back to the screen, clicking on QuickView Plus just makes the whole thing blink, and no install occurs.

The funny thing is, when using the compatibility mode, it gets to the setup file, and just blinks. Blinkin' program. :ugh:

green granite 8th June 2009 17:16

Have you tried downloading the latest version? V10 is Vista compatible and should work with W7

Loose rivets 9th June 2009 04:13

V10 ? WP 10? Downloading ? I'm being a bit dumb here, but can one download WP 10 ?

Mind you, not that I would. WP8 is like a comfy old cardigan. Can't ever imagine not having it. Funnily, it wouldn't print on my Sony Vista Laptop, ( it would run on the Rivetess' HP 6000 with the same build Vista). But this forum sorted that for me. Seems ungrateful, but without looking, I can't remember who it was. :( << me looking ashamed.



After trying the compatibility-mode, things started to go wrong. .wpd Files were 'In use or read only, Use but save in a different name' etc.. there was nowt I could do to liberate them except paste etc.. Properties showed read-only UNticked. Then I noticed a row of conhost ??? in Task Manager. 8 or 9 of them. I rebooted, and all went back to normal. I got the distinct feeling that my retries of compatibility mode were creating one of the 120k ish files each time.

green granite 9th June 2009 06:39

V10 of QuickView Plus:

Avantstar :: Solutions :: Quick View Plus

Loose rivets 9th June 2009 19:00

Ah! I had no I idea they were that established. Thanks.

I sent them this.

Hi, I've used (and sold wp) for years as a dealer in England, and my simple add-on for my old Word Perfect 8 won't load on Win 7

I miss it. And yes, I know it's old...but so am I.


WP8 runs better on W7 than on Vista! but selecting QV option makes the screen blink, and nothing happens.

I'm retired, and only need the simplest upgrade that will go with my RC version of the OS. ie, cost is an issue.

Will it run with Win 7?

Do I qualify for an upgrade when my old copy was combined with WP?

If so, how much for a download?

Regards

Loose rivets

green granite 9th June 2009 19:12

Worth a try. :E

Loose rivets 10th June 2009 06:21

Quite a bit of trouble getting the old Epson 3170 scanner going. The auto-thingie said that it hadn't got anything for me, but offered to go looking elsewhere.

Sk/Eps site offered a Vista 32bit file which I down loaded. It crashed on install, leaving some detritus about, but nothing to 'Uninstall'. I cleaned it up and went for the Second option - this time mentioning Vista 32bit and Twain. This time a much bigger file arrived which unpacked into many scanner model options. I picked the 3170, and away it went.

Epson 12180.exe is the zipped file


The software is improved according to the blurb. Certainly, the way in which you select the destination drive and folder now has its own button with a folder image on it. (before, it was a tiny edge of the Scan Button)

There are more serious issues which it claims to have addressed. Colour handling and the like.

Loose rivets 13th June 2009 07:26

Word Perfect was running well, but a couple of times it has not let me back into my file without promising to save it in a different name.

I've had a good look round, but can't find any clue as to why something's got hold of it. Attributes don't give anything away either.


What might hold onto a WPD file so that it appears to be in use?

Oh dear! It seems that the problem is squarely in the WP camp. This really does spell out just how different W7 is.

It's always, or at least since progressing to W Xp. had the tendency to call up two copies of WP. Normally I would know, because it locks up the WP. Kill it in Task manager and resume. It wouldn't do it for weeks, then start doing it again. Odd that.

With Win 7, there were no Applications running, but Processes showed a copy of WP???.exe sitting in the list. Same sort of thing. The clue was when I went to restart, it asked me if I wanted to force the program to close. Huh! Nothing's running, says I. the Processes belied that thought. killed the stray copy and all's working.

green granite 13th June 2009 07:44

Have a look in <control panel-default programs-set associations> you can then see what else might be set to use them, if so, use the change program button to alter it to wp. Might help or it might not

Keef 13th June 2009 22:42


Originally Posted by Loose rivets (Post 4980952)
I meant to mention, to Keef in particular, that the Hibernate seems to work very quickly. Like pulling the plug out. Back in business in about 15 secs!

Ta! I'm slowly catching up with myself and with good info. I just tried hibernate, and the machine shut down in about half the time it normally takes, except that I had to press the "power" button to get it to switch off once it had done its thing. Much beeping in the meantime.

Restart was a bit quicker than from full shutdown, and it came back to this very thread. It wanted my password first (which a normal boot doesn't). Not sure about it yet... will tinker some more.

Loose rivets 14th June 2009 02:07

Ctrl + wheel still gives Zoom. But the Ctrl 0, ..............!!!!!!


Well !! I was going to say that it now didn't put the zoom back to the reference point. But it just did. :confused:


Hang on a sec while I try the WP again.

Yep, 'Failed to update system registry........' I guess this is just another WP issue, so only of interest to the few.

Just tried it on Open Office Writer, and it Zoomed okay, but Ctrl 0 did nowt.

Odd that it should be the same with several programs one way - but not when selecting reverse.

Mornington Crescent 15th June 2009 13:29

w7 and Vista
 
I have downloaded w7 and used it to update Vista home basic.

It went without a hitch and I have a w7 start up screen that says Ultimate.

BUT it does not have Aero or Windows photo viewer.

Is this because the underlying op. system was Vista home basic.

BTW Outlook works even though there is no OE or windows mail with w7. Yet outlook required OE to be installed in XP.

MC

Bushfiva 15th June 2009 14:58

Change the "Appearance Settings" in case you migrated your Vista settings with you, and that the graphics are higher than 16-bit mode, and that your Experience Index is high enough.

Mornington Crescent 16th June 2009 08:43

Thanks for that.

Got aero by watching MS video and learning how to.

But after trying all the appearance settings the windows photo viewer will not work. I use the MS office viewer by default but summit is up with photo viewer.

Does anyone know if the final version of w7 will have to be installed clean or will we be able to instal it over our trial versions?


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