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Bushfiva 1st June 2009 08:09

Software such as md5sums will do the job.

Loose rivets 1st June 2009 08:58

Ta. I'll look at that later.


I tried it again and it failed at 64% again. I cut another disc, and lo, it's into the next stage.

At the first reboot, it again couldn't find NTLDR (is missing.) this is what it says if I try to boot from the target drive. I fear that there is something still very wrong. It says it's expanding files, but it's already done that. Don't want to leave it, and don't want to sit here another hour. Decisions. When it shut down to reboot, I had to force a shutdown and re start.


Sounds a bit terminal, wouldn't you say?


The only thing is, that all this is going on from a C: which is not the intended drive. It won't boot from the DVD so I can't see any other option. But the drive letters are wrong, but the target for the few files that copied, is correct.


All this would be resolved if it would boot from the DVD. If this is the issue, I may as well start downloading another copy.

I had one heck of a job convincing them that my 10 year old e-address was mine. Soooooooo much BS getting that sorted.

Loose rivets 1st June 2009 09:10

Help it's asking me for a product code orf me box :ugh:

Sprogget 1st June 2009 09:12

Assuming you're in the middle of installing 7, then ignore that for now Rivets. Carry on with the install & when you're all up & running, get a product code from the MS website & activate 7 from the system page in control panel.

Loose rivets 1st June 2009 09:20

Ta muchly.

I'm not only tired, I took a sleeper an hour ago to take away the angst. One is now fighting sleep and a sleeper.:\

Loose rivets 1st June 2009 09:38

Good morning world. I'm talking to you from my new Win 7 operated machine. And all five drive letters are correct Phew!


I havn't yet tried to see if it will boot from the other drive, won't push me luck tonight.

Thanks for the help everyone...One will try to beat this into a workable tool tomorrow.

Guest 112233 1st June 2009 09:43

Keep up the good work folks
 
I'm really enjoying the posts on this thread as I post this on my 1995 vintage Compaq - XP3, 320 MB of Ram, floppy drive internal graphics etc.

Yes I have played the zzzzzzzz.AM game with the creations of Redmond - last week I XP3'd my main clone - Result No wireless networking - Solution carefully yank PCMIA card of of said Compaq and insert (word used very carefully) into clone - result happyness. Old compaq bereft of outside contact with the outside world -Cruelty to Presario. My standby 200 quid net book happly runs Kubunto 9.04 - When will people learn that it takes years to nail dowin the floorboards of an operating system - wait for Win 7 SP2 before installing it on your kit in my 'umble opinion. PS any assembler programmers out there ?

Progress - Bah humbug !!!!!!!

CAT III

Loose rivets 1st June 2009 17:22


When will people learn that it takes years to nail dowin the floorboards of an operating system - wait for Win 7 SP2 before installing it on your kit in my 'umble opinion.
Pah! Where's the fun in that...get yer tweed jacket and short trousers on, and go climb Everest. It's what I felt I'd done last night. Haven't got the staying power any more.:uhoh:


I've put "Ordinary" Firefox on me laptops, but is there an upgraded version of any sort for Win 7 ? Downloads doesn't seem to offer one.

green granite 1st June 2009 18:27


I've put "Ordinary" Firefox on me laptops, but is there an upgraded version of any sort for Win 7 ?
No there's not, but you could try V3.5beta4 it is what I'm using with no real problems.

Guest 112233 1st June 2009 21:55

Dear Rivits
 
That Tweed jacket that I was wrapped in as a neofite, I could not get out of the thing - the brick in the bottom of the sack did not help either. The water was cold too.

Sense of proportion, if it aint running VT210's it ain't a real applcation - long live the navigational database model of application developement - I was being serious about assembler - Re OU -me.

No offence - This is a orrible topic - Thats why I'm on pprune. Yep the PCMIA card is on M/C one again - AV update - All Hail MS .

CAT III

Saab Dastard 1st June 2009 22:46


1995 vintage Compaq - XP3, 320 MB of Ram
CATIII-NDB - that vintage Compaq couldn't be more than a Pentium (1) 133 MHz CPU. Does it support hard disks larger than 512MB? :}

Are you serious that it has Win XP on it? I can't believe that it runs Windows XP at an acceptable speed - even with 320MB RAM! 1995 was still DOS 6 & Win 3.11 for many, although Win95 had just been released.

I've run Win2K on a 1998 233 MHz PII (Toshiba 480CDT) and 160MB RAM (max possible) as a main work PC (slow but steady), but that PC wouldn't run XP at all. I still have it as a packet sniffer.

My "minimum spec." for XP is 500MHz PIII with 512MB RAM, although 256 is feasible, for lighter loads.

SD

Loose rivets 2nd June 2009 03:00

To quote me.


I've put "Ordinary" Firefox on me laptops, but is there an upgraded version of any sort for Win 7 ?
Okay, I'm using bog-standard FF, but when I came to load Skype, it advised that there had been mods for...and it didn't quite say W7, but this type of OS (Sic). I've got 4 0 0 226 after a nice message said that I needed a modified version to cope with the new OS. Huh! I see that's the same as the laptop has on it. (Vista BTW.) Well, the same VER number anyway.

I did spend some time with the Rivetess' image pointing at her ear and saying "Can you hear me?" Made I larf that did. Lovely sound from Norf London, but my mike needed reconfiguring for skype. Selected new mic in the Hello-setup screen and away it went. First time that's happened.

Loose rivets 2nd June 2009 03:14

And another thing!

Tried to log onto PpruNe, and couldn't. I could look inside, but not log on. The horror!

I ended up getting a new password...after all these years with the same one. That fixed it, but it was definitely related to this installation, cos PpruNe was working normally on the other drive. Odd that.

I tried deleting the cookies etc. Ran CCleaner. Made not a jot....

Loose rivets 2nd June 2009 04:15

Please excuse all these posts, but I've done little but mess with technology for the last few days. My tele took up more time than you could shake a stick at.

A few moments ago, I was going to say how I'd fallen for this W7 thingie. I'd just assumed than my old HP LaserJet 4 plus was going to be in there, and was looking, when another menue poped up and said put that away, we'll do it for you. They did, 3 minutes and 12 Mb of something, and away it went. Bless!

However...there's another However. As I logged on to PpruNe, I was not allowed to...well, log on - Again:ugh: Now I'm worried.


Any ideas why this should not allow the new password. It worked at least once, now I'm back to the lappie to beg for more help.

Guest 112233 2nd June 2009 08:07

Hello Saab
 
Saab Your right It was manufactured in 1999 not 95 - I've dug out the purchase inv -apologies everyone so its 10 years old - Compaq Presario 1200 Lap Top intel celerion processor overclocked to 850 MHz - it origionally had 128 MB ram with Win ME - upgraded RAM to 320 MB that all that the bios can address - Origional 10 GB hard disk still - floppy and CD/DVD Read Only - XP Home -SP3 (installed without probs) - No inbuilt wireless hence Belkin G PCMIA card - Win firewall and ESET anti Vir - 2 mins to boot - about 1 and 3/4 hours use on battery - its at its limit - I have tried ubuntu 8.10 but no joy - But still perfectly useable - I'm writing this msg on it. Sorry to mis represent the age of the thing - but my point is with a bit of TLC you can extend the life of old kit - better than throwing it away. PS on board graphics 20MB taken out of the 320 MB Ram 1024 by 768 Screen. OK for usual Home user ordinary tasks

A more general issue - modern operating systems like Vista and Win 7 seem to require comparitively vast processing power and acres of RAM - Where in terms of performance have all the procsssing cycles gone ?.




CAT III

green granite 2nd June 2009 08:19


Any ideas why this should not allow the new password.
No but try using IE instead and see whether it lets you in ok, if it does than it's a setting in FF. Also don't log out of PPruNe when you finish a session.

Edited to add: If you are in the private browsing mode it does not remember passwords nor will it log into sites automatically

John Marsh 2nd June 2009 21:22

In stores for Christmas...
 
Windows 7 is expected to be released on October 22nd:
Windows 7 to ship October 22 ? The Register



Loose rivets 3rd June 2009 01:03

Well, for the moment, Pprune is behaving itself.

It suddenly occurred to me that I used my - rather low level - password that I'd used for Pprune for many years, to be my Win 7 password. I wonder if in some way they found out about each other, and, in a fit of jealousy, caused chaos.


Now, here's an interesting thing.

Above, I described my LaserJet 4 P installation. The menu that popped up over the normal installation knew what printer I had. I had never told it! The disc had been formatted prior to W7's installation. This seems to be saying that the printer's information was carried back up the Parallel printer cable.

We used to do wondrous things with parallel ports, so I know their potential, but I thought accessory information gathering was a USB function idea.

Bushfiva 3rd June 2009 01:17

There's a reason bidirectional parallel printer cables have that name... :}

Incidentally, HP specifies IEE1284-compliant cables for its printers, and if your printer's older than the 5P, max 3 meters. 5P onwards, max 10 meters.

Your 4P's been part of the default printer table for Windows since XP, maybe earlier.

samusi01 3rd June 2009 03:02

Well, thus far Win7 64bit is working fine for me. Currently using it on a new motherboard which appears to be giving me fits but I must say that Win7 is starting to impress me slightly... may end up changing my laptop OS to Win7 as well.

Loose rivets 3rd June 2009 04:12

Mine crashed tonight.


It locked up and then went into hyper-slow mode, having gone into screen save. I had just set it to never go into SBY.

It had downloaded two updates 7672 and ???? and installed them. Prior to that it had stood by with no issues. I forced re-boot and here I am again as though nothing happened.

So, not totally solid yet.


Your 4P's been part of the default printer table for Windows since XP, maybe earlier.
Understood, but the point is that it didn't let me finish using that routine...oh, and I'd had a heck of a time trying to make the old method work with the - probably bogus - XP Pro that I had. But hey, didn't you help me with that one yourself?:ok:

HandyAndy 3rd June 2009 04:20

Could you do a restore to a point just before the updates were downloaded? At least you would know if the updates are the issue.

Edited to note that the last updates were 70421-70424.

crewmeal 3rd June 2009 05:40

Windows 7 RC & Power DVD
 
For info - I run Windows 7 on my laptop. I can't fault it in anyway apart from Power DVD 7.3 which wont play bluray discs You now have to upgrade to DVD 9 version. Having done that they play very nicely through my Samsung LCD

Loose rivets 3rd June 2009 07:33

Handy

I'm certainly not in full control yet. The upgrades were possibly after the last - indeed only - restore point, but I'm not sure. Good point though.

However, it's going well, and I like it more every hour. Seems so much more intuitive. I seem to be able to wade into the menus without too many references to Search, and when there, the choices seem to be straight off a Vista user's wish-list.



Crew

I suppose your laptop has a good graphics sub-system...question mark.


So far, Skype is still going strong, after loads of noise on the old OS.

hellsbrink 3rd June 2009 09:24

Ok, back to playing with Win7. Happier now I figured out how to get ads blocked in IE8 (is quite simple really, once you know the files to look for). No real issues apart from no suitable webcam driver but that's hadly the end of the world

Loose rivets 3rd June 2009 10:04

Yes, I have a creative camera that's getting a bit long in the tooth. It works well on XP but wouldn't install on Vista. Haven't tried it on W7


Some of these downloads have made me realize just how slow my Broad Band is. It's on me phone line and reports while loading 140k ish. My mate in the UK is getting 6M out of a promised 8.

A pal came round and tested my line in and out down the road...said it was good for the most expensive speed. Money wise, I'm probably going to have to go back to two tin cans and some string.:uhoh:

hellsbrink 3rd June 2009 10:13

ALMOST had it working, after a bit of faffing around. Now doing a reinstall in WinXPSP2 compatibility mode to see if that does it. If not, methinks a tinny or two of "thinking juice" will be in order.

I will not be defeated by a mere computer!!

green granite 3rd June 2009 10:17

I'd suggest you use the Vista driver (where it's available) in Compatibility mode first. Right-click on the driver executable/installer file and select the Compatibility tab; click the checkbox 'Run this program in Compatibility mode' and select Windows Vista from the list, then try installing the device driver.

You can try the above for xp drivers and selecting the xp mode from the list.

Loose rivets 3rd June 2009 10:30

My Yahoo scanned for viruses on an e with attachments from a friend.

the bar saying it was scanning, turned red, and at the end, there was a small Norton logo and some other writing I think. Where did this come from? Who uses Norton to check my mail? Is it Yahoo or even W7?

I haven't installed anything yet, but the firewall is on in W7



He had and has again scanned it with AVG...no probs.

hellsbrink 3rd June 2009 10:53

I did, GG, but W7 recommended XPSP2. Now have it ALMOST working fully (can use the cam in things like Live Messenger) but the standalone proggie doesn't work YET

Loose Rivets, that will be Yahoo scanning with Norton

Edit:

Fully working now, thanks GG. Last time I listen to Microsoft!

Keef 3rd June 2009 11:32

That "I see what you're looking for: I'll find it for you" thing is very good, isn't it!

I installed RC1 on a new hard drive in my Thinkpad laptop. First time through, it said it had some problems with some of the hardware. Then it went off and found the drivers for the fingerprint recognition, the Thinkpad keys, and the strange LAN/WiFi stuff. The two printers (HP Laser, Canon colour inkjet) connected to the desktop and "shared" on the network it sorted "on the fly".
Everything is now up and working, and a lot faster than XP Pro, too.

What impressed me most was when I was trying to get some OCR software to work on the desktop. My prehistoric and very expensive ex-work 1990s vintage OCR won't work with Win 7 (it just did, with XP). I downloaded a couple of freebies to try, both of them pretty useless. Then it asked "I see you're trying to set up OCR. Would you like me to do it for you?" And it did! Win7's inbuilt one, which also recognised my antique scanner and found drivers for it.

I'm very impressed.

Anyone know what the price of Win 7 Ultimate released version is likely to be? I've seen Vista Ultimate at under £100 (upgrade version) and around £400 ("new" install).

green granite 3rd June 2009 12:00


Anyone know what the price of Win 7 Ultimate released version is likely to be?
Expensive :( ..................

hellsbrink 3rd June 2009 12:38

Don't you mean "FMBWAS Expensive"?

hellsbrink 3rd June 2009 12:41

Now to confuse it by trying my old US Robotics USB wireless doofer. The drivers for that would blue screen XPSP3 so this could get interesting

hellsbrink 4th June 2009 09:07

Well, it picked up the drivers for the WiFi dongle from Win update (something that doesn't happen on XP!!!) and it works with no issues whatsoever.

So, that's been this machine on Win7 since yesterday afternoon, not even felt like going back to XP, everything running sweetly on my system, which I cannot complain about when you consider it's low (for this day and age) specs

(AMD Athlon 2600XP
1GB RAM
Win 7 partition 63.7GB
GeForce FX5500 256Mb gfx card
Cheapo AC97 sound)

mustpost 4th June 2009 10:23

Hellsb
Must agree it's good after a spell of use (and trying to fix a friends useless vista laptop
7 rc (64 bit) faster than XP pro 64 bit in the same machine

hellsbrink 4th June 2009 11:52

Would love to set it up on stepkids quad core machine just to see the speed difference between it and Vista.


Oh, someone mentioned prices. I found this on another site, some rumoured prices allegedly leaked.

Windows 7 Pricing Details Leaked | Windows 7 Center

Loose rivets 4th June 2009 23:20

Gosh! I had a forum message from - and I paste - "the head of the marketing communication team at Microsoft so, no surprise, I'm using Windows 7."

I'm assuming this is for the UK, cos turns out he grew up in my home town in Essex. Anyway, he confirms the date above, and lot's of exciting stuff in the pipeline.


Adobe What's the situation with this? It doesn't offer a ver for Win 7, so will it run on another, or are we back to simulation...or worse? :(

What I don't want to do is fill the drive with non functional dross. Even though the idea is to experiment with 7, I still want to keep it reasonably functional as my main OS. XP home just standing by. Mmm...a bit of conflict there.

crewmeal 5th June 2009 05:21

What will happen to Windows 7 RC after the offical launch?
 
Now Microsoft have indicated they will launch the OS later this year what will happen to everyone using the current RC version as Microsoft have indicated they will remove it by Jul/Aug 2010?

hellsbrink 5th June 2009 05:30

Your RC version will work fine until the trial period is up, and that means you have to buy a copy next year


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