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le Pingouin 23rd Feb 2016 13:31

I upgraded a HP Elitebook for a friend recently and the scrolling worked out of the box. Can't comment on the photo app.

It appears to be a common problem with Pavillions - as Bushfiva says HP is who you need to look to for a solution rather than MS.

Newforest2 28th Feb 2016 07:10

Plunged and installed last night. Four hours straight, no problems (so far!). You know you will have to, one day, soon!!

John Marsh 28th Feb 2016 08:59

Old programs
 
Win. 10 has a compatibility mode:

How to Set Compatibility Mode for Apps in Windows 10


Loose rivets 8th Mar 2016 00:05

Today's read in of a well-known site says that Fast Startup is a good thing to turn off. I read right through and turned mine off. (normally ON, on W10)

If you dual boot, it seems that it vital to have it OFF.

Long list of reasons to have it off, against a speed advantage I can barely detect with my SSD carrying the OS.


Prior to this, I'd just spent the last half-hour reading posts from folk who are going to Linux or reverting to W7. Me? Well I've done about an hour's serious work since letting Ten barge into my PC a month or so ago. Only an old retired guy could let this state of affairs continue for weeks.

parabellum 24th Jul 2016 01:39

A BIT problem.
 
Finally upgraded from W7 to W10, took 4 hours and seems OK so far, Dell, Inspiron One, 64bit 8MB RAM etc. Very pleased that when it opened up after installation it came up with my W7 desk top and short cuts, most of which seem to work, if a little slow, also have the choice of IE11 or Edge, (how do a set a start page of my choice in Edge please?).


Problem is it thinks most of my programmes are 32 bit, or that is what it says when I look in Task Manager. The computer is 64bit and the installation process never asked me to select between 32 and 64, I assumed it would read that info for itself, especially being an upgrade and not a clean install. In System, via control panel, it says 64bit in all the places I would expect.


Does anyone have more info on this please and can I change anything anywhere so that it forgets all about 32bit? Thanks.

le Pingouin 24th Jul 2016 06:38

Why is it a problem? The bitness of the program is determined when it's compiled so can't be changed other than by installing a 64-bit version of the program. Given that you upgraded to 64-bit Win10 you must have been running the same 32-bit programs on 64-bit Win7. It's all quite normal.

parabellum 25th Jul 2016 06:02

Thanks le Pingouin, wasn't sure. I bought 64 bit CCleaner and even that is showing as 32 bit :confused:.


I changed my default browser to IE11 but I notice when I open an attachment in Outlook it opens in Edge, which I find strange.

le Pingouin 25th Jul 2016 09:59

I installed CCleaner (free version) to test & it says 64-bit - I just downloaded what was offered and didn't specifically pick 64-bit. Sorry, no idea.

Presumably it's configured to use Edge for things that aren't Internet based.

Rwy in Sight 25th Jul 2016 16:00

W10 is not bad but definitely nothing to write home about.

I upgraded last Friday from 8.1 on a Lenovo laptop. It is noticeably lower after the logon to before I can start opening files or run a program and the firefox takes again more time to open completely the home page. The other negative point, making me to start thinking to move back to W8.1 is the series of small icons (facilitating various operations like turning on the bluetooth or finding any device connected to the computer) when the pointer was moved out the left side of the screen. I am not sure if it is clear what I liked on W8.1.

Any ideas on how to move back to the previous OS?

le Pingouin 26th Jul 2016 04:18

To revert: PC Settings > Update & security > Recovery > Go back to Windows 8.1 (whatever your previous version was)

Be warned it can fail. You have a month (however many days that means.....) to use that facility. You can still revert later but it entails performing a clean install with your previous version.

Rwy in Sight 26th Jul 2016 20:09

Thanks le Pingouin. It worked without issues and I got the side-appearing bar back.

le Pingouin 27th Jul 2016 15:48

With the added bonus of being able to upgrade to Win10 again for free later if you decide that's what you want.

Lyneham Lad 27th Jul 2016 21:08

Stuck on 99%
 
Upgrading from Windows 7 the 'percent complete' number very slowly advanced until reaching 99% - and there it has stayed (for >5 hours now).

What to do? Leave it running overnight or kill it and start again?

Loose rivets 28th Jul 2016 21:32

I found myself in that position and tried again, but, the delay might just be thousands of people all getting 10 before it runs out. Although the barometer is not moving, is the HD doing much? And also, Task Manager might give a clue as to what's going on.

I'm tempted to get another one, but didn't buy another SSD so am thinking of installing on a spare laptop drive and changing later. Not sure what the swapping-drives thing will be after the 29th.

I wish I had purchased another drive as I see the Pro version costs a lot.

Lyneham Lad 29th Jul 2016 11:10

Ref post #53, I tried a third time from scratch, this time disabling Avast anti-virus software. The update reached 99% much more quickly (2.30pm) but then seemingly stalled. Turned the monitor off and got on with other things. Checked at bedtime, still 99% - ah, what the heck, left it running overnight. Turned the monitor on this morning and bingo - 'Welcome to Windows 10' or words to that effect.

Will now put the whole shooting match up for sale as I recently switched to an iMac. Farewell Windows!

IBMJunkman 29th Jul 2016 16:04

Found elsewhere:

http://www.myimagecollection.com/webpics/win10.jpg

Loose rivets 30th Jul 2016 00:16

I found myself phoning PCWorld today. 'No, there's no SSD drives available in any store.'

Pity, but never mind. Don't really need another W10, just avarice, don't need it, but the pro is costly and I've got a W7 pro. I festered over this for some moments. (I'll buzz off to the silly section for the next bit.)

http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/5822...ml#post9456130

It was about 2:30PM before I decided to disbelieve the lady on the PCWorld phone. I drove to an out-of-town supermarket thingy and asked a nice young man in PCW if he'd got an SSD drive. He had.

And that's why I'm writing a load of guff on JB. It makes the time go by while I watch little circles, circle, and bar graphs, graph, or whatever bar graphs do. but behold! I'm now told I'm the owner of a Authenticated W10 Pro.

Mmmm . . . there has to be a catch. Maybe W7 will become so sought-after that a legal copy will be worth ten times the price of the equivalent W10.

sled dog 30th Jul 2016 10:49

Tried W10, immediate dislike, uninstalled and reinstalled W8 which I am very happy with.

Lyneham Lad 30th Jul 2016 11:13


Originally Posted by Loose rivets (Post 9456132)
Maybe W7 will become so sought-after that a legal copy will be worth ten times the price of the equivalent W10.

Well, I'm open to offers... :cool:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...pse1scuqla.jpg

Geordie_Expat 30th Jul 2016 14:35

Am I the only person who has never received an installation disc with a new PC. Every time, Windows whatever version already installed, never had a disc.

Carry0nLuggage 30th Jul 2016 15:42

Bill Gates ain't getting my money or info now
 
Well that was a complete waste of the last two days. :mad:

Multiple attempts to perform the upgrade and each time it failed and each time for a different error code. The compatibility check passed, the download went OK as did the check on the download. The update ran, the machine rebooted and - we're back to W7. Made sure all exisitng W7 updates were present; disconnected any unneeded USB HDDs and all the other little tricks mentioned on the internet. Still no joy.

At some stage in the proceedings the update managed to trash the user profiles for Ms Luggage and me. All I've got to do is spend the rest of the day working out how to do that. Thank you so much MS :rolleyes:

So back to W7 for good now. Compared to the painless upgrades on my Mac and even my Linux laptop the W10 experience was shockingly bad.

I joked at work that I'd upgrade to version 10 but it might not be Windows. It's no longer a joke.

Warmtoast 30th Jul 2016 23:15

Installed my Laptop and Desktop with Windows 10 from Win 7 a couple of days ago. A few very minor niggles, but otherwise both are running fine and I'm quite pleased with Win 10, certainly better than I expected, the bonus being the upgrade was free.

One query: Do I have to keep my original retail (not OEM) Win 7 Program discs, or can they be sold?

Loose rivets 2nd Aug 2016 14:30

No, hang on to those. If you even have to do a total reinstall - downloading a fresh ISO, you'll need the key. If anyone else is using it, you may find it's locked out forever.

However, the new 10's seem to arrive with a fresh key if BELARC is to be believed, so you might want to take the gamble to garner a few quid from the procedures.

On one install I did, nothing would allow the ISO download - until I tried the key that was on the side of my HP pc in the US. I just happened to have made a note of it when it was sold for a few dollars with no OS.

Warmtoast 3rd Aug 2016 22:47

Loose rivets

hang on to those
Thanks for the tip, I will.

WT

crablab 9th Aug 2016 15:43

Although, if you happen to have a newer laptop (W8 upwards) you'll find there is no licence key and no CofA sticker on the bottom because the key is embedded in the BIOS - makes it a right pain sometimes!

Loose rivets 9th Aug 2016 21:32

I had a lot to say about that on a thread some 2 - 3 years ago. Neither Asus nor MS seemed willing to reveal just what was going on, and during a conversation with Belarc, they said they can't see them at the moment, 'But we will.' And they can.

In the end, MS offered me a full 8.1 Pro on discs for $45 which I readily accepted.

I've just picked up a Lenovo PC unopened box with 8.1 on a 2 TB drive. It has one of those half hologram stickers.

I've 'upgraded' it to 10, and will look to see what Key is allotted to that install as it's usually different, but I forgot to note the original Key. Despite the computer operating okay on 10, it was still a bad mistake as recently only the original Key on the (disposed of long ago) computer would allow the ISO download for a fresh install. I happened to have the Key but have a feeling I'd have been out of luck without it as MS really do seem to be toughening up on bogus use of their OS's, especially where they're downloaded by request from an automated system.

That computer had, had three Activated OS's in its lifetime, and their system refused all but the original W7.

BEagle 3rd Sep 2016 15:13

Windows 10 Version 1607
 
So what do people think of the (HUGE) 'anniversary' update which has just found its way onto Win10 systems?

Democritus 3rd Sep 2016 16:24

On 2 out of 3 PC's that I updated the wifi printer had to be reinstalled after the update. After the update on my brother's PC he couldn't get any wifi until he got rid of ZoneAlarm. Classic Shell updated itself to 4.3.0 after booting up on two of my PC's and the other said the program wasn't compatible and it had therefore been uninstalled. I reinstalled Classic Shell (4.3.0) without any difficulty. Other than those minor hiccups all running smoothly now.....except of course like many others my webcam won't work but MS promise a fix this month.

With all these updates I'm going to blow my ISP's 50Gb download limit for the second month running......:(

Newforest2 3rd Sep 2016 17:44

Unprintable! My computer ended up being unusable, unable to boot to safe mode and ended up with the technos to delete AU.

The problem was my drivers were 'not up to date' and I paid the penalty, a lot of euros.

G-CPTN 6th Sep 2016 11:31

Windows 10 and the internet.
 
My daughter has acquired a new laptop.
Setting it up (fresh out of the box) it asked for her email address and password. (!)
When she switches on the laptop it asks for her password before it will proceed.
Is it essential that W10 computers are 'locked' to an email account?

Is there any way that this 'security lock' can be disabled so that her young son can use the laptop without having access to her email account?

Democritus 6th Sep 2016 11:59

She can change things by setting up a Local Account. Hope this link helps.....

How to sign into Windows 10 with a local account - How-To - PC Advisor

G-CPTN 6th Sep 2016 12:52

Thanks - it has other implications, such as what to do if you forget your password - no way of getting online to receive an email . . .

papajuliet 7th Sep 2016 12:59

I refused to download Win 10 onto a Win 7 PC. Whilst the free download was being " pushed" I noticed, when I came to turn off the PC, that Task Force Manager was always running in the background. Since the free download offer ended that has stopped. Everything is now back to normal.
Just what was Microsoft playing at ?

Nervous SLF 12th Sep 2016 20:46

Just bought a new desktop and it has Win 10 pre-installed. I am getting used to
it and have managed to get rid of stuff that appeared like candy crush ( whatever
that was ? ).
However when I power it up within seconds it opens and displays my e-mails without
any input from me. How do I stop this please as it is extremely annoying. I want
to open Firefox first.

Loose rivets 12th Sep 2016 21:04

You'll find Task Manager now has a startup tab. Might be worth looking there first to see what programs just might be responsible.

Nervous SLF 13th Sep 2016 05:17


Originally Posted by Loose rivets (Post 9505903)
You'll find Task Manager now has a startup tab. Might be worth looking there first to see what programs just might be responsible.

Well I had a look but as I didn't totally understand what it all meant I chickened
out and left it alone :O

I also couldn't see how to import e-mail contacts.

I did however have a brainwave and upon clicking on incoming e-mails I found
that I could add them to my contacts list. I have now sent out a few more e-mails
asking for a reply so that I can click and add them. Will soon find out those who
do not wish to associate with me :):)

What a Plonk I am, I have managed to import contacts and it only took seconds.
I was playing around and tried using " vCard Single File " and BINGO!!!! All sorted
with contacts I am now going to have another go at stopping the e-mails opening on start.

Sorted this as well, I think I know how but am not sure how to put it into words.:O

Loose rivets 13th Sep 2016 10:04

Oh, go on, TRY!!! Bated breath here.

FullOppositeRudder 20th Sep 2016 00:17

Yesterday I had to endure another tirade from a friend (not altogether elderly - about the same age as me :E) whose laptop had "upgraded" to Windows 10 without her knowledge or approval. She is not technically savvy - more accurately described as an 'appliance operator'. But she had uses for her computer, and knew what she needed to do to to get the results she wanted.

Or rather - used to know.

Now it's all changed, and the poor soul is completely at a loss to know where to go, and what to do get the result she wanted. "Everything has changed" she said. She speculated aloud whether life would easier if she got an ipad thingy....

I didn't know what to say - or do either. I use Classic Shell, and Mozilla programs for internet work. She was totally locked into the Micro$oft regime.

Perhaps it will all be clearer when she and her husband get back home after three month trip around the continent and her grandchildren can take up the challenge of re-education. I hope so. Perhaps they are savvy in ipad - that may still be the best way out.

Should people really be subject to this kind of un-solicited 'abuse' from a mainstream company? I predict that there will be a special corner in hell for executives of companies who knowingly foist this kind of confusion on sections of their unsuspecting customer base.

Rant mode <OFF>

FOR

esa-aardvark 20th Sep 2016 12:39

My win 10 update will not complete as my system partition (name?)
is too small.Maybe win10 should have thought of that when it set it up.
Instructions for enlarging it are full of dire warnings. Computer is much slower since upgrading from 8.1

le Pingouin 20th Sep 2016 14:10

Yes, adjusting partitions can have catastrophic consequences if it goes wrong but provided you don't kick the power cord out or some such the chances of it working are high. i.e. take the sensible precaution of making a backup before proceeding and there's every chance you'll succeed.


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