Windows 11
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Windows 11
Received a notification that Windows 10 will not be supported after October 2025 and my PC (Lenovo 330 ideapad approx 6 years old) does not meet the requirements for Windows 11. Is there a workaround that doesn't require a degree in computer science to accomplish? If not, is it wise to continue to use Windows 10?
Thanks for info.
Thanks for info.
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You will be able to continue to get Win10 updates for the payment of a fee to Microsoft. I don't know how extensive the updates will be. Certainly continued security updates but whether they would patch a fault I don't know - depends upon how serious/insecure the problem is, I guess.
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Does it tell you why Windows 11 won't run? It may just be that you need a motherboard update.
Everyone will tell you that you need to upgrade to continue to get free security updates. Whether you need those security updates really depends on what you're doing; if your PC sits behind a home router that does address translation and has upnp turned off and all you do is browse the web from an updated browser without opening randomly downloaded files then you're fairly safe. Possibly safer than you would be with Windows 11 continually downloading new adverts and all the risks that entails.
If that is all.you do then you're better off switching to Linux anyway and not having this problem or Microsoft spying on you.
Everyone will tell you that you need to upgrade to continue to get free security updates. Whether you need those security updates really depends on what you're doing; if your PC sits behind a home router that does address translation and has upnp turned off and all you do is browse the web from an updated browser without opening randomly downloaded files then you're fairly safe. Possibly safer than you would be with Windows 11 continually downloading new adverts and all the risks that entails.
If that is all.you do then you're better off switching to Linux anyway and not having this problem or Microsoft spying on you.
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Regarding the second part of your question, I think you'll be fairly safe as long as you follow a few simple rules:
- Install a good adblocker.
- Use a separate anti-virus/firewall package and keep this up to date.
- Don't click on any suspicious links or strange websites.
As has been mentioned, security updates will continue to be made available, but this will trail off and you may not have access to all the newest bells and whistles, but if you can live without that it is certainly an option to stay on Win 10. I have a set of in-laws who are still on Win 7. The challenge of converting them to a newer Windows version is too much hassle compared to the risks they're running. They know not to open any suspicious e-mails, they have nothing on that computer that could do them any damage as they don't use internet banking at all and have never had a credit card. Still going strong after several years like this!
- Install a good adblocker.
- Use a separate anti-virus/firewall package and keep this up to date.
- Don't click on any suspicious links or strange websites.
As has been mentioned, security updates will continue to be made available, but this will trail off and you may not have access to all the newest bells and whistles, but if you can live without that it is certainly an option to stay on Win 10. I have a set of in-laws who are still on Win 7. The challenge of converting them to a newer Windows version is too much hassle compared to the risks they're running. They know not to open any suspicious e-mails, they have nothing on that computer that could do them any damage as they don't use internet banking at all and have never had a credit card. Still going strong after several years like this!
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Bit vague but I recall that my last Win10 laptop wasn't Win11 ready but by enabling some feature or other in the system - some software controlling the processor or summat - it quite happily upgraded once Win11 was released.
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I don't have details however a know someone who has installed W11 on few unsupported laptops. Don't think it was hard.
Will likely depend on what the exact problem(s) are.
I just had a quick look and while my own computer is not supposed to work with win 11, the same model is for sale, used, with w11 installed!
Will likely depend on what the exact problem(s) are.
I just had a quick look and while my own computer is not supposed to work with win 11, the same model is for sale, used, with w11 installed!
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There are some workarounds in this thread: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/...ted-pc/4173358
I am not sure if the tool that they link to is an option as there is a post stating that that page has been hijacked. But reading through this page at least provides a bit of insight in what is needed to get around the Microsoft limitations. I was thinking it might give a bit of insight as I have a Win 10 desktop that I might want to upgrade at some point. Not sure I want to go down this route though.... I might just swap out some hardware so that I can rely on it for a couple years more.
I am not sure if the tool that they link to is an option as there is a post stating that that page has been hijacked. But reading through this page at least provides a bit of insight in what is needed to get around the Microsoft limitations. I was thinking it might give a bit of insight as I have a Win 10 desktop that I might want to upgrade at some point. Not sure I want to go down this route though.... I might just swap out some hardware so that I can rely on it for a couple years more.
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My old PC received the same message. I looked into the issue and tried changing the BIOS settings but it doesn’t support the required security level that MS require for Windows 11.
A new motherboard might well fix it. Obviously that is likely to need a new processor, new memory card, etc etc.
I’m annoyed by these more frequent mandatory obsolescences. This year I’ve lost the use of my GARMIN satnav after the latest update turned it into a paperweight. I’ve also lost the use of two identical GoPro cameras after they both decided to refuse to boot up after being put on charge. Especially annoying as I’d bought a new battery for the first one that failed, found it didn’t help, bought an identical camera to find exactly the same failure within a very short time.
A new motherboard might well fix it. Obviously that is likely to need a new processor, new memory card, etc etc.
I’m annoyed by these more frequent mandatory obsolescences. This year I’ve lost the use of my GARMIN satnav after the latest update turned it into a paperweight. I’ve also lost the use of two identical GoPro cameras after they both decided to refuse to boot up after being put on charge. Especially annoying as I’d bought a new battery for the first one that failed, found it didn’t help, bought an identical camera to find exactly the same failure within a very short time.
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Updating Windows 10 to 11 on Unsupported Hardware
Have a look on YouTube "update windows 10 to 11 unsupported hardware" - Plenty of solutions there!
I have a Windows 10 PC which I have updated to Windows 11 using one of these solutions. I get Windows 11 updates without any problems! But I did add more memory from 4GB to 16GB! I had previously changed my hard disk to SSD which improved performance considerably.
You have to think about how you use your PC, if you are doing lots of video editing or using multiple spreadsheets then you need a proper Windows 11 PC.
However if you use it for a bit of browsing and answering emails you do not need to outlay money on a new PC! Modified PCs may be slow but they work!
I think most Governments will be putting pressure on Microsoft to come up with an approved workround in order that landfills will not be inundated with old PCs
I have a Windows 10 PC which I have updated to Windows 11 using one of these solutions. I get Windows 11 updates without any problems! But I did add more memory from 4GB to 16GB! I had previously changed my hard disk to SSD which improved performance considerably.
You have to think about how you use your PC, if you are doing lots of video editing or using multiple spreadsheets then you need a proper Windows 11 PC.
However if you use it for a bit of browsing and answering emails you do not need to outlay money on a new PC! Modified PCs may be slow but they work!
I think most Governments will be putting pressure on Microsoft to come up with an approved workround in order that landfills will not be inundated with old PCs
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Received a notification that Windows 10 will not be supported after October 2025 and my PC (Lenovo 330 ideapad approx 6 years old) does not meet the requirements for Windows 11. Is there a workaround that doesn't require a degree in computer science to accomplish? If not, is it wise to continue to use Windows 10?
Thanks for info.
Thanks for info.
I've a few affected machines.
If the problem with updating to Windows 11 is the CPU type I'm going to force the Win11 upgrade on the assumption that Microsoft just haven't bothered to test that CPU.
If it's the missing 'Trusted Platform Module' then I'm going to 'retire' the machine to an offline role.
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Thanks for the answers. Perhaps there will be sufficient pushback against MS to make them do a Trumpian reverse ferret and delay the support withdrawal.
Seriously thinking about switching to Mac (if my brain is not too old to cope with learning the iOS).
Seriously thinking about switching to Mac (if my brain is not too old to cope with learning the iOS).
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This may be a side-issue from a complete Numpty.
MS has been offering me Windows 11 on my (11-capable) laptop for about 3 years. I've declined, because I like what I've got, and hate change.
What actually happens when they "withdraw support". Will it still work? Does it actually need support? Should I just bite the bullet and go-11?
MS has been offering me Windows 11 on my (11-capable) laptop for about 3 years. I've declined, because I like what I've got, and hate change.
What actually happens when they "withdraw support". Will it still work? Does it actually need support? Should I just bite the bullet and go-11?
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It'll still work. It won't get updates. In particular it won't get updates to the hundreds of hacking vulnerabilities that probably exist undiscovered (or at least unreported). In other words Microsoft will stop fixing all the broken stuff. Microsoft will also stop answering questions about it, but as a consumer they wouldn't have answered your question anyway.
Eventually software manufacturers will stop making software to run on it, or won't allow updates any more. For example Python stopped running on Windows 7 in 2020 when Microsoft stopped paid for support of it.
Eventually software manufacturers will stop making software to run on it, or won't allow updates any more. For example Python stopped running on Windows 7 in 2020 when Microsoft stopped paid for support of it.
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As for learning Mac, shouldn’t be an issue. I’ve used Mac and Windows for 3+ decades and find that, for everyday home use, the two OS’s are more alike than different.
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I'm getting SO annoyed with Microsoft's bullying. They killed off Outlook Express, they killed off Autoroute and other software. They've virtually bricked one of my computers with their bloated OS filling up the C-drive, they're now killing off Skype....
Anyway, my trusty old Dell running Win7 is still fine with an anti-virus application and I'm not going to be threatened by this Win11 bullying!
Anyway, my trusty old Dell running Win7 is still fine with an anti-virus application and I'm not going to be threatened by this Win11 bullying!
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Have never noticed this thread before - interesting reading. I subscribe to a magazine called Computeractive, which appears to target our age range and demographic - some excellent advice, tips and reviews there. Oh, and I buy the paper version so's I can have it open while following instructions; I'm not the best at flipping between browser pages.
FWIW, I switched to Windows 11 on my last 'puter (which just about made the specs required) and moved it seamlessly over to the current one which is coming up to 2 years old. Followed some instructions from the mag and am delighted with my slimmed-down Windows, relatively-bloatware-free. In similar vein, I switch between Brave and Firefox as my main browsers - ditched Edge, bing and whatnot ages ago.
FWIW, I switched to Windows 11 on my last 'puter (which just about made the specs required) and moved it seamlessly over to the current one which is coming up to 2 years old. Followed some instructions from the mag and am delighted with my slimmed-down Windows, relatively-bloatware-free. In similar vein, I switch between Brave and Firefox as my main browsers - ditched Edge, bing and whatnot ages ago.