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mixture, my old ThinkPad T61 from 2007 had a "limit" of 4GB of RAM. I put 8GB in it and it worked fine. Why? 4GB modules didn't really exist in 2007... 
Also I'm posting from an x220 with 16gb RAM, while all the official documentation says only 8gb supported... same reason!
Also I'm posting from an x220 with 16gb RAM, while all the official documentation says only 8gb supported... same reason!
I'm running a 2011 Macbook Pro with 2.7 mhz and 8 meg of ram. I would say that I'm seeing a lot more "wait wheels" than previously. I do like some of the changes such as discrete browsing, but its coming at the price of a slower machine.
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mixture, my old ThinkPad T61 from 2007 had a "limit" of 4GB of RAM. I put 8GB in it and it worked fine. Why? 4GB modules didn't really exist in 2007...
Also I'm posting from an x220 with 16gb RAM, while all the official documentation says only 8gb supported... same reason!
Also I'm posting from an x220 with 16gb RAM, while all the official documentation says only 8gb supported... same reason!
Years ago, with my Macintosh LC, I was told to install double the RAM because the larger chips were cheaper. (due to oversupply or something). I was told the extra memory wouldn't be recognised, and it wasn't. But it worked fine.
I can't think of any reason why a Manufacturer would want to state a lower maximum, but there could be one.
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If you install RAM that is too fast, you can start a small fire (I speak from experience 
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And if you try to install more than 8GB in an... Ivy Bridge? -based machine, it will fail POST and beep at you. So it's not always successful. Googling helps.
)And if you try to install more than 8GB in an... Ivy Bridge? -based machine, it will fail POST and beep at you. So it's not always successful. Googling helps.
This question has just popped into my head again (and I'm in front of the computer) so why did Apple decide to give away the latest two OS's for free, whereas every other preceding OS upgrade was sold for a pretty penny ? What's in it for them and how do they get the missing revenue back from the customers ? 
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perhaps because the last two upgrades were crap , not as bad as Windows 8, but certainly not something that justified having to buy them.I am not an Apple fan -wife's machine- but I do think it was a wise customer relations move to give away Yosemite and give them a stable platform going forward.
I upgraded a 2009 vintage iMac RAM very easily because it is designed to accept an appropriate upgrade-just undo a little panel at bottom of screen and swap out the memory modules .
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perhaps because the last two upgrades were crap , not as bad as Windows 8, but certainly not something that justified having to buy them.I am not an Apple fan -wife's machine- but I do think it was a wise customer relations move to give away Yosemite and give them a stable platform going forward.
I upgraded a 2009 vintage iMac RAM very easily because it is designed to accept an appropriate upgrade-just undo a little panel at bottom of screen and swap out the memory modules .
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... And it keeps us loyal customers, loyal.
From: Apple CEO Explains Why Apple's Products Are So Expensive (Sort Of)
But Cook also addressed a question that most consumers find themselves asking regularly: Why are Apple products so expensive?
His answer -- that Apple doesn't want to sacrifice quality for price -- served mainly to reinforce his argument that Apple values great products over all else. (In typical Apple fashion, he made some half-dozen references to Apple's "magic" or "magical" products.) Yet he also suggested that Apple's innovation and product pipeline is driven at least in part by an effort to produce new gadgets at lower price-levels.
"Instead of saying, 'How can we cheapen the iPod to get it lower?' We ask, 'How can we do a great product and do it at a cost that enables us to sell it at the low price of $49?'" he explained.
Cook noted that tech observers wondered for "years" why Apple didn't offer a Mac for under $1000.
"Frankly we worked on that, but we concluded that we couldn't do a great product. And so we didn't. But what we did do is we invented the iPad," Cook explained. "Now all of a sudden we have an incredible experience that starts at $329. Sometimes you can take the issue or way you might look at an issue and solve it in different ways."
Instead of offering a cheap laptop, in other words, Apple made an expensive tablet.
His answer -- that Apple doesn't want to sacrifice quality for price -- served mainly to reinforce his argument that Apple values great products over all else. (In typical Apple fashion, he made some half-dozen references to Apple's "magic" or "magical" products.) Yet he also suggested that Apple's innovation and product pipeline is driven at least in part by an effort to produce new gadgets at lower price-levels.
"Instead of saying, 'How can we cheapen the iPod to get it lower?' We ask, 'How can we do a great product and do it at a cost that enables us to sell it at the low price of $49?'" he explained.
Cook noted that tech observers wondered for "years" why Apple didn't offer a Mac for under $1000.
"Frankly we worked on that, but we concluded that we couldn't do a great product. And so we didn't. But what we did do is we invented the iPad," Cook explained. "Now all of a sudden we have an incredible experience that starts at $329. Sometimes you can take the issue or way you might look at an issue and solve it in different ways."
Instead of offering a cheap laptop, in other words, Apple made an expensive tablet.
