Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Misc. Forums > Computer/Internet Issues & Troubleshooting
Reload this Page >

New Laptop Windows8 - What security?

Wikiposts
Search
Computer/Internet Issues & Troubleshooting Anyone with questions about the terribly complex world of computers or the internet should try here. NOT FOR REPORTING ISSUES WITH PPRuNe FORUMS! Please use the subforum "PPRuNe Problems or Queries."

New Laptop Windows8 - What security?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 2nd Nov 2013, 19:45
  #1 (permalink)  
pzu
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: N Yorkshire, UK
Age: 76
Posts: 484
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Question New Laptop Windows8 - What security?

Just purchased a new Laptop (HP Touchscreen) for wife, now considering Security & software

WHICH magazine suggests MS8 inbuilt security is more than adequate - comments please

Am considering MS Office 365 Home Premium subscription at approx £70/yr - this gives upto 5 licenses (for family) and includes Cloud storage - again comments please

Thanks in advance

PZU - Out of Africa (Retired)
pzu is offline  
Old 3rd Nov 2013, 18:30
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: YMML
Posts: 1,839
Received 19 Likes on 9 Posts
Windows Defender is okay but you can do (considerably) better: AV-TEST - The Independent IT-Security Institute: Jan/Feb 2013

How many of the licenses will you actually use? Do you need MS Office or would an alternative like Google Docs or OpenOffice/LibreOffice do the job? Do you run software into the ground or upgrade to newer versions every few years?
le Pingouin is offline  
Old 10th Nov 2013, 11:48
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: the deep pit
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Office 365 with its subscription payment model is a scam - especially as its cloud based. Can you be sure the internet is always available to you?

Just buy the version of "normal" Office you need
meddwl bender is offline  
Old 11th Nov 2013, 13:39
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bristol
Age: 67
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Office Software

For the price, you cannot do better than Libre Office 4 (for WP/SS/DB/Presentation) and Thunderbird for mail. The only real glitch I have had with Libre Office is that I can't get it to cope with forms created in MSWord.
Thunderbird is excellent for mail, although it doesn't have the same integration with a calendar that Outlook does. Try them before committing yourself to £70 per year!
For the occasional document that needs to be shared, would a free Dropbox account suffice?
N727NC is offline  
Old 11th Nov 2013, 14:20
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: East sussex
Posts: 624
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
For the past few years I've been using the free Avast anti virus. I had a couple of nasties made it to my hd.

Now before others 'jump down my throat' when I mention Norton Ohhhhh slows down the pc, great memory usage et al. I am using now, Norton Anti Virus (windows7/8) NOT Norton 360 which could very well require greater processing and memory constraints. Very happy with it. It comes with up to three pcs cover. £14.99 from Argos plus 12 months of free updates.

Having said that, other anti virus programmes are available as are other retail outlets.

Daz

Last edited by dazdaz1; 11th Nov 2013 at 14:47.
dazdaz1 is offline  
Old 11th Nov 2013, 15:42
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Bracknell, Berks, UK
Age: 52
Posts: 1,133
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by N727NC
For the price, you cannot do better than Libre Office 4 (for WP/SS/DB/Presentation) and Thunderbird for mail. The only real glitch I have had with Libre Office is that I can't get it to cope with forms created in MSWord.
Thunderbird is excellent for mail, although it doesn't have the same integration with a calendar that Outlook does. Try them before committing yourself to £70 per year!
For the occasional document that needs to be shared, would a free Dropbox account suffice?
"For the price" assumes above that you put no cost value to your own time. The amount of hidden costs associated to Office clones and IMAP/POP email is not inconsiderable.
Mike-Bracknell is offline  
Old 12th Nov 2013, 04:16
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: YMML
Posts: 1,839
Received 19 Likes on 9 Posts
MB, it does rather depend on what your needs are. Where are the hidden costs for those creating and reading simple documents and spreadsheets?
le Pingouin is offline  
Old 12th Nov 2013, 04:53
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: E.Wash State
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I just reloaded my old disk of Office 2003 onto a new Windows 8.1 machine yesterday. Despite Microsoft claiming 2003 is not compatible, guess what? -- it all works just fine, including touch screen ability.
obgraham is offline  
Old 13th Nov 2013, 02:16
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Scotland
Age: 54
Posts: 279
Received 82 Likes on 23 Posts
Security

Much as it's moaned about, I've been using Norton Internet Security for as long as I can remember & installed it on more PC's than I can remember. Other than an iffy upgrade (once) & some spurious application blocking (rare) it's never caused any issues & never let anything in.

The iffy upgrade was mid subscription & wiped my remaining time to renewal (about 100 days) - a call to Symantec got me 150 days without any issue!

All I would say against it is;

Don't use it on a sloth of a PC.
Don't go for the easy online renewal - it's cheaper to get a new retail pack.
Thrust Augmentation is offline  
Old 13th Nov 2013, 14:12
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: East sussex
Posts: 624
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Very good advice Thrust, that's what I intend to do after the twelve month update expires. The thing is.....Do I have to download the Norton removal tool to remove current Norton before loading the new retail one in 2014

Daz
dazdaz1 is offline  
Old 13th Nov 2013, 18:49
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: -
Posts: 1,175
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If you need 100% compatibility for documents, buy Microsoft Office.


If you want to buy a security suite, I suggest you give a look at ESET Smart Security which is as good as Kaspersky or BitDefender, but lighter. Norton is also a good alternative -- I still have to figure out why so many people do not suggest it.
If you want to go free, Avira and Comodo Firewall is a good combination.


CCleaner, Malwarebytes, IObit Malware Fighter and Advanced SystemCare are a must-have for me. I also use both Defraggler and Smart Defrag 2. Notice I use two softwares for the same things, that's just me. It's all down to you.


For email, Thunderbird is awesome, it even has extensions that integrate a calendar if you need one. If you buy Microsoft Office, stick to Outlook -- I am loving the last version but I still use Thunderbird sometimes.
RedBullGaveMeWings is offline  
Old 14th Nov 2013, 09:28
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Scotland
Age: 54
Posts: 279
Received 82 Likes on 23 Posts
Daz,

No you don't need to use the removal tool to upgrade. When you get the retail copy (irrespective of what iteration it is) you can just use the product key to renew the subscription. When a newer version is released you will be notified & given the chance to upgrade & Norton will clean up as it upgrades (This is all NIS I'm on about, not 360 or AV).


Re office software - I'm a die hard Office 2003 user as I've never liked or had the patience to like the "ribbon" that was introduced in Office 2007 - I'm currently using 2003 with Win 7. Office 2003 can be had for virtually nothing & although MS list it as being incompatible with Win 8, there seems to be plenty of users out there who don't have a problem. Food for thought if it's of any interest.
Thrust Augmentation is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.