PPRuNe and vBulletin Software
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PPRuNe and vBulletin Software
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Please list any improvements to vBulletin's performance which you can recommend and we shall see if PPRuNe are able to respond:
For starters, when arriving at the end of a full page there seems to be no link to return to the top of the page and a manual scroll is the only option.
Also, if you want to check the profile of a member who has never posted - how do you do it?
S.
Please list any improvements to vBulletin's performance which you can recommend and we shall see if PPRuNe are able to respond:
For starters, when arriving at the end of a full page there seems to be no link to return to the top of the page and a manual scroll is the only option.
Also, if you want to check the profile of a member who has never posted - how do you do it?
S.
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For starters, when arriving at the end of a full page there seems to be no link to return to the top of the page and a manual scroll is the only option.
On a mac its cmd + up/down
On mozilla on windows you can press the Home key for the top, End for bottom.
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Last page of a - long - thread does not load.
I was trying to read the last page 150 of the 447 thread and it kept reloading the previous one. It happened twice in two different computers so I feel I am "targeted".
Any ideas what it could be wrong?
Rwy in Sight
Any ideas what it could be wrong?
Rwy in Sight
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From: USA / In the mountains, by a lake
Me, too!
I'm having the same problem on the same thread. Right now it says there's a page 6 (my page option is set to 40 posts per page...) and when I click on 6, it loads page 5.
But last night when I was here, the same thing happened, only with being stuck on page 4 and unable to read 5. But was able to catch up tonight.
In essence, no posts are missing I think, but there's just something not working right. I read another site who uses vBulletin and this problem doesn't appear there. That's why I think it's a glitch with the software here.
How does one contact a Moderator and/or Administrator here? Haven't found that place yet.
But last night when I was here, the same thing happened, only with being stuck on page 4 and unable to read 5. But was able to catch up tonight.
In essence, no posts are missing I think, but there's just something not working right. I read another site who uses vBulletin and this problem doesn't appear there. That's why I think it's a glitch with the software here.
How does one contact a Moderator and/or Administrator here? Haven't found that place yet.
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I think you'll find that the version of the vBulletin software used by PRRUNE (v. 3.8.7) has been superseded by a new improved version (v. 4.1.3 as at 5th April 2011). The code base underwent a major overhaul commencing from v. 3.8 in August 2008.
Because there is a need for a major overhaul of the code base to keep abreast of other IT changes, the code base changes are being phased in over an extended period... and as such, are still being phased in.
Thus, you are going to find quirky problems such as the missing pages will continue until the current version used by PPRUNE is updated.
However, updating is an intensive operation, with much database work required, and I couldn't be sure that the owners of PPRUNE are willing to indulge in the necessary upgrades whilst the forum still works reasonably well.
On another forum I moderate, the webmaster has been discussing with the mods, the need to upgrade to the latest version very shortly.
He indicated he is very happy with the performance of the latest versions, and the work being put in by the Jelsoft back-room boys...
Because there is a need for a major overhaul of the code base to keep abreast of other IT changes, the code base changes are being phased in over an extended period... and as such, are still being phased in.
Thus, you are going to find quirky problems such as the missing pages will continue until the current version used by PPRUNE is updated.
However, updating is an intensive operation, with much database work required, and I couldn't be sure that the owners of PPRUNE are willing to indulge in the necessary upgrades whilst the forum still works reasonably well.
On another forum I moderate, the webmaster has been discussing with the mods, the need to upgrade to the latest version very shortly.
He indicated he is very happy with the performance of the latest versions, and the work being put in by the Jelsoft back-room boys...
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onetrack,
Except the irony is that both vBulletin and PPRuNe share the same parent company. So one would have thought they would have been keen as anything to show off the latest and greatest software.
But as you say, there's a lot of work involved, especially as it's not just a leap between minor but between major versions (3.x.x to 4.x.x). I suspect the current version that runs PPRuNe might have also been subject to a few tweaks and hacks here and there.
I couldn't be sure that the owners of PPRuNe are willing to indulge in the necessary upgrades whilst the forum still works reasonably well.
But as you say, there's a lot of work involved, especially as it's not just a leap between minor but between major versions (3.x.x to 4.x.x). I suspect the current version that runs PPRuNe might have also been subject to a few tweaks and hacks here and there.
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Scroll down a little further to the blue bar with "Privacy Policy" etc, and the last link on there is "Top" which does what you're asking for.
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Because there is a need for a major overhaul of the code base to keep abreast of other IT changes, the code base changes are being phased in over an extended period... and as such, are still being phased in.
Thus, you are going to find quirky problems such as the missing pages will continue until the current version used by PPRuNe is updated.
However, updating is an intensive operation, with much database work required, and I couldn't be sure that the owners of PPRuNe are willing to indulge in the necessary upgrades whilst the forum still works reasonably well.
Thus, you are going to find quirky problems such as the missing pages will continue until the current version used by PPRuNe is updated.
However, updating is an intensive operation, with much database work required, and I couldn't be sure that the owners of PPRuNe are willing to indulge in the necessary upgrades whilst the forum still works reasonably well.
AFAIK, the pagination issue is simply that ads are tagged to a "hidden" post (or something like that, I wasn't paying attention
), so the last page number is out by one on some threads. However, the last post is indeed the last post, and the page you are directed to is in fact the last page of the thread.SD
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When a thread goes over 6 pages, it then displays on the thread summary page as "Thread title" (1 2 3 4 5 6 ... Last Page)
But when I am reading a thread at, say, page 95, and then come back to it a little while later, I would like to be able to go straight to page 95 and carry on from there rather than having to open Last Page and then work backwards.
Is it possible to make it read, for instance, (First Page ... 95 96 97 98 99)
In short - when opening a long thread, the most recent 6 pages are likely to be of more interest than page 1 to 6
But when I am reading a thread at, say, page 95, and then come back to it a little while later, I would like to be able to go straight to page 95 and carry on from there rather than having to open Last Page and then work backwards.
Is it possible to make it read, for instance, (First Page ... 95 96 97 98 99)
In short - when opening a long thread, the most recent 6 pages are likely to be of more interest than page 1 to 6
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farsouth said: When a thread goes over 6 pages, it then displays on the thread summary page as "Thread title" (1 2 3 4 5 6 ... Last Page)
But when I am reading a thread at, say, page 95, and then come back to it a little while later, I would like to be able to go straight to page 95 and carry on from there rather than having to open Last Page and then work backwards.
Is it possible to make it read, for instance, (First Page ... 95 96 97 98 99)
In short - when opening a long thread, the most recent 6 pages are likely to be of more interest than page 1 to 6
But when I am reading a thread at, say, page 95, and then come back to it a little while later, I would like to be able to go straight to page 95 and carry on from there rather than having to open Last Page and then work backwards.
Is it possible to make it read, for instance, (First Page ... 95 96 97 98 99)
In short - when opening a long thread, the most recent 6 pages are likely to be of more interest than page 1 to 6
ETA...the blue down-arrow button appears directly to the left of the thread's title. Apparently, on this forum, it does not appear once you've read the thread. But you will see it when a new post has been added.
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From: USA / In the mountains, by a lake
You're welcome! It just takes a while to figure it all out. I've been commenting for about 5 years on another site which uses the same software and that's the only reason I know anything at all.
It just takes a while to figure it all out. I've been commenting for about 5 years on another site which uses the same software and that's the only reason I know anything at all.
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SoCal & Mike, thanks. I actually discovered this shortly after posting the thread .. you know, Murphy's Law and all that!
Exactly!
Another gripe is that if one takes slightly too long preparing one's post, when the time comes to post it .. you can find yourself being asked to sign-in again having lost the material you were preparing.
Also .. sometimes a post won't post when it begins with a photo and .. when you prepare a post which begins with a sentence highlighted in bold (a media article for example) sometimes this converts the entire text into bold at the time of posting.
And ..
*PPRuNe don't like avatars. (Are they any use? Some people like them).
*Other forum software enables readers to add a 'like' to a specific post and which is a great way for posters to gauge how their material is being received. I don't know whether vBulletin has this?
Crucially (for me at least) is the vBulletin search software. When you enter a word/s in the search it offers the option of 'Show Threads' or 'Show Posts' but only delivers 'Threads AND Posts'. I have never entered an item for search which has only returned 'Show Threads' and which means one has to trawl through pages of unwanted references.
Sav
SoCal & Mike, thanks. I actually discovered this shortly after posting the thread .. you know, Murphy's Law and all that!
Except the irony is that both vBulletin and PPRuNe share the same parent company. So one would have thought they would have been keen as anything to show off the latest and greatest software.
Another gripe is that if one takes slightly too long preparing one's post, when the time comes to post it .. you can find yourself being asked to sign-in again having lost the material you were preparing.
Also .. sometimes a post won't post when it begins with a photo and .. when you prepare a post which begins with a sentence highlighted in bold (a media article for example) sometimes this converts the entire text into bold at the time of posting.
And ..
*PPRuNe don't like avatars. (Are they any use? Some people like them).
*Other forum software enables readers to add a 'like' to a specific post and which is a great way for posters to gauge how their material is being received. I don't know whether vBulletin has this?
Crucially (for me at least) is the vBulletin search software. When you enter a word/s in the search it offers the option of 'Show Threads' or 'Show Posts' but only delivers 'Threads AND Posts'. I have never entered an item for search which has only returned 'Show Threads' and which means one has to trawl through pages of unwanted references.
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Crucially (for me at least) is the vBulletin search software. When you enter a word/s in the search it offers the option of 'Show Threads' or 'Show Posts' but only delivers 'Threads AND Posts'. I have never entered an item for search which has only returned 'Show Threads' and which means one has to trawl through pages of unwanted references.
Sav
Crucially (for me at least) is the vBulletin search software. When you enter a word/s in the search it offers the option of 'Show Threads' or 'Show Posts' but only delivers 'Threads AND Posts'. I have never entered an item for search which has only returned 'Show Threads' and which means one has to trawl through pages of unwanted references.
Sav
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Savoia said: *Other forum software enables readers to add a 'like' to a specific post and which is a great way for posters to gauge how their material is being received. I don't know whether vBulletin has this?
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vBulletin has many options which are not yet being offered here.
including, as you'd asked about, Savoia, the ability to 'like' individual comments. There, it's known as Reputation.
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enables readers to add a 'like' to a specific post and which is a great way for posters to gauge how their material is being received