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Over the weekend I built a PC for my Mrs, with XP 32bit installed. That too got stuck when I put it into Hibernate mode, so I undid that. It works fine with Standby though. My recommendation would be to leave it with Hibernate disabled and see if that solves the problem, as it may have done from your recent experience.
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I've had my PC now for three years, built locally, ASEUS M2V-MX M/B and running XP Home. Lots of add-ons and extra memory. It also does not like going into hibernation (or rather waking up from it) and much prefers Standby/Sleep.
From further research it seems I have KSOD - or the Black Screen of Death whose causes seem to be legion and some of whose cures I'm trying now.. One being to turn off the Windows Event Log.
Someday someone will invent a stable OS..
Someday someone will invent a stable OS..
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have you reset these to defaults ? Failed overclocking has sometimes required multiple reboots to get going again: not implying you have overclocked but worth a go. Perhaps try disabling devices (eg wireless which may be upset by hibernate/sleep) and see if it goes away. Other than these rather desperate ideas, change the cmos battery ?
To finish this thread off the problem got worse and the computer would not boot up at all other than in safe mode. Left it with a computer repair firm and in the end the only solution was to restore the OS. Thankfully safe mode allowed the savings of data.
I think the problem started with the shut down mentioned in my 25 Sep post. Prior to this when you switched the computer on at the mains there would be a quick burst of the cpu fan. During the problem period this didn't happen but following the restore it is doing again. May mean something.
Needless to say I've switched off the sleep function.
I think the problem started with the shut down mentioned in my 25 Sep post. Prior to this when you switched the computer on at the mains there would be a quick burst of the cpu fan. During the problem period this didn't happen but following the restore it is doing again. May mean something.
Needless to say I've switched off the sleep function.
Sadly this problem recurred though in a different form.
PC locked up and when restarted it wouldn't go into Vista but ok in safe mode as before but this time the display was showing random shapes and signs as well as the normal display in safe mode.
Turns out it was a graphics card defect and cured when that was replaced. Search on the net turned up several instances of the same graphics card going after three years and my PC is just coming up to its.......third year...
PC locked up and when restarted it wouldn't go into Vista but ok in safe mode as before but this time the display was showing random shapes and signs as well as the normal display in safe mode.
Turns out it was a graphics card defect and cured when that was replaced. Search on the net turned up several instances of the same graphics card going after three years and my PC is just coming up to its.......third year...
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A strange coincidence but after three years of no problems coming out of overnight standby (not hibernation), my own PC has refused to wake up twice in the past week. Had to power down then up again, perfect restart. Wonder if there's been a recent update of software that I didn't spot ?
WIN XP, 2 gigs AMD Athlon 64 dual core, 2Mb RAM, AsusTeK board bus 200 megs., Tests are: disc check = OK, malwarebytes scan = OK, defragged recently. Permanent internet connection via WiMax. AVG run daily. WIN Firewall, WiFi Firewall.
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WIN XP, 2 gigs AMD Athlon 64 dual core, 2Mb RAM, AsusTeK board bus 200 megs., Tests are: disc check = OK, malwarebytes scan = OK, defragged recently. Permanent internet connection via WiMax. AVG run daily. WIN Firewall, WiFi Firewall.
Anyone else ?
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2 thoughts come to mind, one is memory, which can be given a full check with something like memtest86 from memtest.org. the bios test done during startup is not particulary detailed and can miss a failing address.
the second thought is mother board capacitors, dell had a problem with a machine gx270 series around 2007, anyways if the capacitors on the mother board are in anyway expanding, leaking, or going brown its the end of the road for the motherboard, I came across one recently that had a wide range of symptoms from failing to boot, moments of stability for up to half an hour, crashing just after loggin, rarely twice the same.
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the second thought is mother board capacitors, dell had a problem with a machine gx270 series around 2007, anyways if the capacitors on the mother board are in anyway expanding, leaking, or going brown its the end of the road for the motherboard, I came across one recently that had a wide range of symptoms from failing to boot, moments of stability for up to half an hour, crashing just after loggin, rarely twice the same.
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Originally Posted by OFSO
A strange coincidence but after three years of no problems coming out of overnight standby (not hibernation), my own PC has refused to wake up twice in the past week.
Back where I started here...problem as before refuses to boot into Vista. This problem comes on gradually. Won't boot into Vista so you use system restore and then everything is ok for while and then it happens again but more frequently.
So it failed on the 7th April to boot; system restore used and then four successful boots ups and then a failure on 15th. System restore but failure on the next boot-up and the two after that. So its failing every time now. Startup repair always finds nothing wrong - problem signature 6 NoRootCause - and system restore only working on its second attempt this last time whereas before
The odd thing is how the fault occurs more and more frequently. I know if I do a complete reload of Vista, as was done a few months ago, it will probably be ok for while and then it will be back.
In the event viewer this appears on every date of failure to boot..(along a lot of other stuff but this is marked as error..
The entry <C
PROGRAMDATA\MICROSOFT\WINDOWS\START MENU\PROGRAMS\MCAFEE\MCAFEE INTERNET SECURITY.LNK> in the hash map cannot be updated.
Context: Application, SystemIndex Catalog
Details:
A device attached to the system is not functioning. (0x8007001f)
Could this be the cause? Its the increasing occurence of the fault that also bafflles me.
Any thoughts...change to Window 7... or buy a new computer..
So it failed on the 7th April to boot; system restore used and then four successful boots ups and then a failure on 15th. System restore but failure on the next boot-up and the two after that. So its failing every time now. Startup repair always finds nothing wrong - problem signature 6 NoRootCause - and system restore only working on its second attempt this last time whereas before
The odd thing is how the fault occurs more and more frequently. I know if I do a complete reload of Vista, as was done a few months ago, it will probably be ok for while and then it will be back.
In the event viewer this appears on every date of failure to boot..(along a lot of other stuff but this is marked as error..
The entry <C
PROGRAMDATA\MICROSOFT\WINDOWS\START MENU\PROGRAMS\MCAFEE\MCAFEE INTERNET SECURITY.LNK> in the hash map cannot be updated.Context: Application, SystemIndex Catalog
Details:
A device attached to the system is not functioning. (0x8007001f)
Could this be the cause? Its the increasing occurence of the fault that also bafflles me.
Any thoughts...change to Window 7... or buy a new computer..
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control panned>admin tools>system config>startup> then un-tick all the things you don't need such as mcafee etc, click on apply then go to services tab and do the same and click on apply: note ticking the hide microsoft box helps.
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Long shot time
Start/Run/msconfig/Startup tab.
Untick all the ticks in the Start column. Click Apply. (Make a note of what you do have ticked, before you untick)
Reboot and see what happens.
Disconnect from the internet before you do, as AV/Firewall will not load on boot.
Long shot 2. Do you have sufficient space on your hard drive for Windows to boot? say 10 GB of empty space?
Untick all the ticks in the Start column. Click Apply. (Make a note of what you do have ticked, before you untick)
Reboot and see what happens.
Disconnect from the internet before you do, as AV/Firewall will not load on boot.
Long shot 2. Do you have sufficient space on your hard drive for Windows to boot? say 10 GB of empty space?
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Thanks for the advice. I'll have to go onto safe mode and I will try what you suggest. I could also ask McAfee what the event message means.
McAfee is shipped with Dell computers so there shouldn't really be a problem though this PC is 3 years old.
Thanks for the advice. I'll have to go onto safe mode and I will try what you suggest. I could also ask McAfee what the event message means.
McAfee is shipped with Dell computers so there shouldn't really be a problem though this PC is 3 years old.
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McAfee is bundled with Dell computers since McAfee pay Dell to bundle it on there. That's the only terms of their agreement. McAfee is pants, uninstall it and use something better.