Cable broadband modem
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Cable broadband modem
I use Virgin media cable for our home based office - excellent, no complaints (currently uses Netgear 54 Mbps Wireless Router WGR614-6VGUKS modem/hub).
Other than the server (hidden behind the TV at the access point in the lounge) all other access, currently three PCs and 2 wireless + 1 wired printers), are on wireless connectivity with no problems to date.
However - expansion of business means using a second room as an office in the near future and this is at the limit of current wireless range.
As some form of upgrade may be necessary anyway, would welcome any suggestions in terms of best kit for improved speed/range etc.
Going wired is not an option.
Other than the server (hidden behind the TV at the access point in the lounge) all other access, currently three PCs and 2 wireless + 1 wired printers), are on wireless connectivity with no problems to date.
However - expansion of business means using a second room as an office in the near future and this is at the limit of current wireless range.
As some form of upgrade may be necessary anyway, would welcome any suggestions in terms of best kit for improved speed/range etc.
Going wired is not an option.
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From: Earth
Going wired is not an option.
But, if you want to persist at the wireless route, try something "N" based... eg. one of these.... NETGEAR WIRELESS-N SERIES CABLE MODEM ROUTERS
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From: Lemonia. Best Greek in the world
Have a look at Homeplug. (google it).
My homeplug access has been quick and reliable. Very happy with it.
I haven't done it, (beyond my tech ability) but a friend says he has set up a second wifi gizmo at the end of a homeplug connection to increase the coverage of wifi.
My homeplug access has been quick and reliable. Very happy with it.
I haven't done it, (beyond my tech ability) but a friend says he has set up a second wifi gizmo at the end of a homeplug connection to increase the coverage of wifi.
More bang for your buck
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From: land of the clanger
Have a look at Homeplug.
See: Power Line Telecommunications (PLT) news page | Radio Society of Great Britain
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I've used an Apple AirPort Express as wireless extender (got it in a job lot). You'd need to run network cable between the router & the AirPort Express, but other than that it's easy to use & has reasonable range.
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More bang for your buck
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I am curious, are the RSGB alone in their opposition to PLT?
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From: Lemonia. Best Greek in the world
All that sounds like one interest group versus another. If there was a real issue that impacted the Mil., (as opposed to the other interest groups) the CAA and MoD would have been all over it.
Homeplug works fine.
Homeplug works fine.
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Squawking 7500 here !!!!
But, if you want to persist at the wireless route, try something "N" based... eg. one of these.... NETGEAR WIRELESS-N SERIES CABLE MODEM ROUTERS
WiFI is a black art in the el-cheapo domestic market. What works for someone might not work for someone else and vice versa. Cheap domestic rubbish is very dependent on how the blackbox itself is constructed as well as the construction of your premises. The advertised range figures are nothing but a load of codswollop.
To give yourself the most flexibility, I would suggest you look for something with an external antenna option, not just internal ones. One that supports plugging in a decent range of alternative antennas to boot (i.e. not some dodgy proprietary connector) That should give you extra options to play with.
Should also check what's built into your PCs/Laptops is compatible, otherwise budget for extra cards and dongles.
Sorry, but that's the truth.
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No need to be 'sorry' - I agree with all you say (and am not looking to go the cheap route).
Unfortunately hard wiring is simply not an option in this property, so just looking for any specific equipment experiences anyone has had.
Your initial comment/link also most helpful and already noted.
Will probably be able to re-equip the furthest point with N ready new equipment (my understanding is that all the N boxes are backwards compatable to earlier euipment but obviously would check before buying).
Thanks
Unfortunately hard wiring is simply not an option in this property, so just looking for any specific equipment experiences anyone has had.
Your initial comment/link also most helpful and already noted.
Will probably be able to re-equip the furthest point with N ready new equipment (my understanding is that all the N boxes are backwards compatable to earlier euipment but obviously would check before buying).
Thanks
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One of the other considerations with wifi is that you have 13 channels to play with (b/g/n, not a), and each channel overlaps 2 others either side of it to a lesser extent. Hence, to get the best range and throughput, audit your airspace for all the broadcasting access points, their strength and the channel they're using. If you can sit 4 channels away from everyone else you're laughing, but if not then configure your access point's channel as far away from the crowd of other access point channels as possible.
e.g. if you had 4 APs you would configure them to channels 1,5,9, and 13. However if your neighbour has an AP on channel 6 (because we suffer from the yanks thinking we don't get channel 13 and hence configuring 1,6,11 as defaults into their kit) then you would want to site your APs on channels not including 4-8.
This diagram explains it even more elegantly: List of WLAN channels - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
e.g. if you had 4 APs you would configure them to channels 1,5,9, and 13. However if your neighbour has an AP on channel 6 (because we suffer from the yanks thinking we don't get channel 13 and hence configuring 1,6,11 as defaults into their kit) then you would want to site your APs on channels not including 4-8.
This diagram explains it even more elegantly: List of WLAN channels - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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From: Lemonia. Best Greek in the world
Green Granite -
Yup.
They are just 2 different interest groups.
group 1 . I want my home plug to work
group 2. I want my favourite overseas radio station to work.
I can't see any intellectual basis to differentiate between the groups, they are both just economically driven 20th century interests, so I'll go with my economic interest - which is a home pc network that uses home plugs.
As I said, if it was a real Mil or CAA issue, my economic interests would be set aside.........as they do for, say, windfarms in the wrong places.
Yup.
They are just 2 different interest groups.
group 1 . I want my home plug to work
group 2. I want my favourite overseas radio station to work.
I can't see any intellectual basis to differentiate between the groups, they are both just economically driven 20th century interests, so I'll go with my economic interest - which is a home pc network that uses home plugs.
As I said, if it was a real Mil or CAA issue, my economic interests would be set aside.........as they do for, say, windfarms in the wrong places.
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From: Between the woods and the water
Have you tried moving the wireless router ?
If put centrally in your loft you may well find that it covers the whole house, on both floors, unless the first floor is made of reinforced concrete.
If put centrally in your loft you may well find that it covers the whole house, on both floors, unless the first floor is made of reinforced concrete.
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I installed a Buffalo wzr-hp-g301-nh at short notice when a befsr41-c went titsup at short notice. Despite not liking Buffalo for historical reasons, I do think this unit performs well: range is way up, the two twiddly antennas have proved useful, the unit runs much cooler, and it has way more spare memory. I put dd-wrt on it, although recent units come with Buffalo-branded dd-wrt anyway. One of the nice features in some markets is auto channel search: it will find the best channel to operate on.
Also, depending on your jurisdiction, the "there are only 3 interference-free channels" may actualy be "there are only 2 interference-free channels", as the highest-numbered channels may only be allowed to operate at reduced power.
Something like inssider might help you locate the best channel for your location, and then you may not need to changer routers anyway.
Another possibility is addign a wireless bridge to the target area. Some wireless routers can do both things at once (hello Buffalo again).
Also, depending on your jurisdiction, the "there are only 3 interference-free channels" may actualy be "there are only 2 interference-free channels", as the highest-numbered channels may only be allowed to operate at reduced power.
Something like inssider might help you locate the best channel for your location, and then you may not need to changer routers anyway.
Another possibility is addign a wireless bridge to the target area. Some wireless routers can do both things at once (hello Buffalo again).
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I had a similar problem here, with one wireless access unit unable to reach all the places I need wireless internet.
The original wireless modem router is in my study, where the desktop PC is hard-wired. That covered about half the house.
I bought a (reasonably reputable - TP-Link) wireless-N access point, with the maximum permitted power output, and put it at the other end of the house, connected by Cat5 cable.
I put it on Channel 13 since there's nothing else nearby higher than 11.
I now have good coverage throughout the house, garden, and my shed.
I had no problems whatever with several different wireless devices connecting to the two. As far as I can tell, my iPhone switches between them seamlessly. I don't walk around using WiFi, but when I've checked it may be on either of the two but working as it should.
The original wireless modem router is in my study, where the desktop PC is hard-wired. That covered about half the house.
I bought a (reasonably reputable - TP-Link) wireless-N access point, with the maximum permitted power output, and put it at the other end of the house, connected by Cat5 cable.
I put it on Channel 13 since there's nothing else nearby higher than 11.
I now have good coverage throughout the house, garden, and my shed.
I had no problems whatever with several different wireless devices connecting to the two. As far as I can tell, my iPhone switches between them seamlessly. I don't walk around using WiFi, but when I've checked it may be on either of the two but working as it should.
