Mac advice needed please
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Mac advice needed please
I am struggling to load Photoshop 3 on to a G4 Mac with OS X.
Is the software too old for the new operating system? If not, can anyone give me an idiot's guide to loading.
I struggled for four years to learn about PCs, now I am struggling with my daughter's new Mac. Perhaps it is a case of me being too old for the hardware!
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[ 14 September 2001: Message edited by: Stan Sted ]
Is the software too old for the new operating system? If not, can anyone give me an idiot's guide to loading.
I struggled for four years to learn about PCs, now I am struggling with my daughter's new Mac. Perhaps it is a case of me being too old for the hardware!
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[ 14 September 2001: Message edited by: Stan Sted ]
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Photoshop 3.0 is far to old to operate under the OS X environment, although it may run in 'Classic' mode (OS 9, which should also be installed on your daughter's machine). Email me @ address in profile if you need any further help or advice.
WxJx
Photoshop 3.0 is far to old to operate under the OS X environment, although it may run in 'Classic' mode (OS 9, which should also be installed on your daughter's machine). Email me @ address in profile if you need any further help or advice.
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Ye gods, you move quickly Stan 
We only discussed buying one on Wed - so which did you go for?
I know WJ can help you out with the installation by e-mail or give me a call for PPRuNe tech support.
Rob
We only discussed buying one on Wed - so which did you go for?
I know WJ can help you out with the installation by e-mail or give me a call for PPRuNe tech support.
Rob
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Hi Rob
Yes I did move quickly as a result of your advice. I phoned Jigsaw in Nottingham and at 16.15pm placed an order for a G4 466Mhz machine with 640MB of ram, 30G HD etc. They asked me when I would like it delivered and I said asap. They said would the following morning be OK? It arrived at 09.55 and was operational by 10.25. Fantastic service!!
My only complaint was the very poor instruction booklets issued by Apple. It explained how to plug things in etc but there was little advice on how to do basic things such as load software. The machine is for my daughter to use at college, so hopefully she will soon learn how it all works. Two of my daughter's friends were so impressed by the service from Jigsaw that they snapped up the company's last two G4 466s.
In the meantime, I am back on my tired old Mesh 200Mhz dinosaur with a 4.3GB HD, 96MB of memory and a crummy graphics card.
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Yes I did move quickly as a result of your advice. I phoned Jigsaw in Nottingham and at 16.15pm placed an order for a G4 466Mhz machine with 640MB of ram, 30G HD etc. They asked me when I would like it delivered and I said asap. They said would the following morning be OK? It arrived at 09.55 and was operational by 10.25. Fantastic service!!
My only complaint was the very poor instruction booklets issued by Apple. It explained how to plug things in etc but there was little advice on how to do basic things such as load software. The machine is for my daughter to use at college, so hopefully she will soon learn how it all works. Two of my daughter's friends were so impressed by the service from Jigsaw that they snapped up the company's last two G4 466s.
In the meantime, I am back on my tired old Mesh 200Mhz dinosaur with a 4.3GB HD, 96MB of memory and a crummy graphics card.
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And as for the software, we shall bite the bullet and go for the Adobe design package, with Photoshop 6, Illustrator 9 and InDesign etc etc, with the new 75 per cent student discount all for £280 or so.
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I'm known in this Forum as a PC/MicroSoft enthusiast so I wouldn't want this to get about - but I'm seriously thinking of getting a Mac to replace one of my PCs that I will pass on to my son.
You see, I've been upgrading PhotoShop over the last three years and now have Ver 6. But it doesn't like the Windows 2000 and other third party software environment. It crashes regularly. I'll still need a PC to run my scanner because I believe that the Umax/MagicScan combination doesn't work with the latest Mac OS but that's no problem.
Which Mac would people buy if they could have the one they want, and which would they buy if they had to make do with something less?
Sorry if this is asking you to repeat yourselves but other posts haven't quite answered my queries.
And remember, keep this under your hat - especially from Danny!
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You see, I've been upgrading PhotoShop over the last three years and now have Ver 6. But it doesn't like the Windows 2000 and other third party software environment. It crashes regularly. I'll still need a PC to run my scanner because I believe that the Umax/MagicScan combination doesn't work with the latest Mac OS but that's no problem.
Which Mac would people buy if they could have the one they want, and which would they buy if they had to make do with something less?
Sorry if this is asking you to repeat yourselves but other posts haven't quite answered my queries.
And remember, keep this under your hat - especially from Danny!
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Always glad to see a repentant PC user coming over from The Other Side! Let me know why you think your scanner won't work under OS X..there may be a workaround, or it may work under Classic mode.
As for your question:
This is something I'm pondering myself at the moment. I have finally decided to upgrade my steam-driven Performa running OS 8.1 (which still does a lot of the things I want and shows recent Pentium PCs a clean pair of heels when it comes to Photoshop), and am trying to decide what to go for.
Money No Object - Twin processor G4 or Titanium Book
Budget - Lesser G4 or wait for the next iMac
Having said that, I might just wait until January, as reports are coming in that Motorola has finally overcome the G5 MHz issue and has a stable chip running at 1.6GHz, with 2GHz in sight.
WxJx
Always glad to see a repentant PC user coming over from The Other Side! Let me know why you think your scanner won't work under OS X..there may be a workaround, or it may work under Classic mode.
As for your question:
Which Mac would people buy if they could have the one they want, and which would they buy if they had to make do with something less?
Money No Object - Twin processor G4 or Titanium Book
Budget - Lesser G4 or wait for the next iMac
Having said that, I might just wait until January, as reports are coming in that Motorola has finally overcome the G5 MHz issue and has a stable chip running at 1.6GHz, with 2GHz in sight.
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Much appreciate your welcome, WJ!
About three years ago my Son-in-Law and I bought the same Umax Powerlook II Scanner and he plugged his into his Mac and I did the same with mine to my PC through a mini-SCSI card. We both used the bundled MagicScan software. I have upgraded to W2K and a proper SCSI card and my scanner works well. It's PhotoShop I'm suspicious about.
He's upgraded his Mac and says;
"I have not attempted to connect the original scanner to the iMac on the recommendation of scanner manufacturer. The iMac only has firewire and USB ports and they did not recommend trying to use an intermediary to connect the scanner."
He also says;
"Some new iMacs have just come out, but there is talk of a major revamp to the range that is supposed to happen early next year. I think the present lot are good and well thought out machines that run well on operating system 9.1. The newest operating system Mac X has recently come out and works in quite a different way. As yet there is little software available specifically for it and I think it needs particularly high clock speeds to work well – I will not be using it for a while yet."
He's a Radiology Consultant and Lecturer so this is important to him professionally.
Can you enlarge on this?
About three years ago my Son-in-Law and I bought the same Umax Powerlook II Scanner and he plugged his into his Mac and I did the same with mine to my PC through a mini-SCSI card. We both used the bundled MagicScan software. I have upgraded to W2K and a proper SCSI card and my scanner works well. It's PhotoShop I'm suspicious about.
He's upgraded his Mac and says;
"I have not attempted to connect the original scanner to the iMac on the recommendation of scanner manufacturer. The iMac only has firewire and USB ports and they did not recommend trying to use an intermediary to connect the scanner."
He also says;
"Some new iMacs have just come out, but there is talk of a major revamp to the range that is supposed to happen early next year. I think the present lot are good and well thought out machines that run well on operating system 9.1. The newest operating system Mac X has recently come out and works in quite a different way. As yet there is little software available specifically for it and I think it needs particularly high clock speeds to work well – I will not be using it for a while yet."
He's a Radiology Consultant and Lecturer so this is important to him professionally.
Can you enlarge on this?
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An iMac isn't the best choice to run Photoshop. Current versions of Photohsop take advantage of the Altivec (Velocity Engine) unique to the G4, so you will see significant performance difference between a G4 and an iMac (G3) with Photoshop. G4 towers now come with CD-RW, 4X AGP, 133 MHz buss, and reasonably good graphics cards.SCSI cards can still be added to them at low cost for older scanners - USB and Firewire for newer ones (I am still running an old HP SCSI scanner I bought in '94 with its original supplied Mac software, still works on OS 9.1. OS X also is shipped with the OS 9.x installer, and there is nothing to prevent installing OS 9 as the primary OS (I partitioned the hard drive and have seperate OS X and OS 9 partitions, some software I must run isn't yet compatible with OS X Classic mode. (booting from any drive or partition is pretty straight forward in the Mac environment).
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Good Stuff everyone and Thanks Very Much.
Food for thought. I went out and looked at the G4 yesterday in the local department store and only escaped by the skin of my teeth. It looked terrific with its 17 inch flat screen, CD-RW etc. Phew!
I'm inclined to see which way the cat jumps as Christmas approaches and new developments are announced together with competitive deals and price wars. But keep the info coming, please.
Food for thought. I went out and looked at the G4 yesterday in the local department store and only escaped by the skin of my teeth. It looked terrific with its 17 inch flat screen, CD-RW etc. Phew!
I'm inclined to see which way the cat jumps as Christmas approaches and new developments are announced together with competitive deals and price wars. But keep the info coming, please.
