XP SP3 Imminent
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Originally Posted by SD
Assuming you installed the correct drivers in the first place
Which drivers? AMD processor or what?
Does the update require specific drivers?
If my machine is working ok at the moment does that mean I have the right drivers?
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I was being facetious - with a clean install it is nearly impossible to load the wrong drivers. Drivers are only loaded at install / setup if the corresponding hardware is detected - equally true of chipset (AMD / intel) or graphics or sound etc.
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XP SP3 won't install
Recently downloaded XP SP3, when trying to install it, I get the message "The file c\windows\system32\xpsp2res.dll is open or in use by another application, close all other applications and click retry" which I do, click retry and get the message "an internal error occurred, the service pack could not install".
I'd like to avoid another lengthy call to Orange (India) Ltd, so if anyone has any ideas I'd be most grateful. My system is currently running XP SP1.
Thanks,
R5
I'd like to avoid another lengthy call to Orange (India) Ltd, so if anyone has any ideas I'd be most grateful. My system is currently running XP SP1.
Thanks,
R5
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AMD systems thrown by XP SP3 update
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Yeah, I'd already stated that the problem lies with the OEM's in the SP3 thread here: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showpos...7&postcount=37
Embarrassing for a large company like HP to be found out like this. You'd expect better from them.
Embarrassing for a large company like HP to be found out like this. You'd expect better from them.
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Could do with a thread merge here?
Hurn - I reckon from your info my desktop AMD is OK. Yours was the first specific mention of 'HP'. My laptop is an HP Pavillion.
Is there a work around?
Hurn - I reckon from your info my desktop AMD is OK. Yours was the first specific mention of 'HP'. My laptop is an HP Pavillion.
Is there a work around?
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My laptop is an HP Pavillion. Is there a work around?
Is there a work around?
If its Intel, there should be no problem as they seem to have used images based on intel configurations from what I've read.
If its AMD then your results may vary!
Do HP supply an XP disk which can be used for running repairs with, or do they just have a hidden recovery partition (OS image) on the hard drive?
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Hurn it is the usual 'cheapo' partition job. I made a 'rescue' set of CDROMs on purchase. I also have my 'pukka' XP CDROM and have asked here before about just installing that - and been warned of all sorts of potential probs with drivers etc.
I'll have a shufti at the processor as a start!
EDIT to add: Hopefully good news!
I have an Intel Celeron
I'll have a shufti at the processor as a start!
EDIT to add: Hopefully good news!
I have an Intel Celeron
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Try obtaining SP2 and installing it before SP3.
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Since nobody more knowledgeable than me has offered a resolution yet, I'll have a go.
There is a possibility of finding what application is using the .dll with Unlocker
It's not always successful, I believe other programs like Process Explorer or A2 HijackFree may be better analysis tools, but I honestly don't know enough about them to recommend their use. (Can use myself, can't safely talk someone else through it.)
If you can right click on the .dll prior to attempting the SP3 install, it might tell you the "locking handle". First step then is to try and shut down that program, if it's not intrinsic to windows or update. (Hopefully it will be a third party software, that can easily be set to not start with Windows.)Then see if it's still locked. If not, presto.
If no luck there, I'd probably look at asking on the appropriate MS newsgroup/forum.
Since nobody more knowledgeable than me has offered a resolution yet, I'll have a go.
There is a possibility of finding what application is using the .dll with Unlocker
It's not always successful, I believe other programs like Process Explorer or A2 HijackFree may be better analysis tools, but I honestly don't know enough about them to recommend their use. (Can use myself, can't safely talk someone else through it.)
If you can right click on the .dll prior to attempting the SP3 install, it might tell you the "locking handle". First step then is to try and shut down that program, if it's not intrinsic to windows or update. (Hopefully it will be a third party software, that can easily be set to not start with Windows.)Then see if it's still locked. If not, presto.
If no luck there, I'd probably look at asking on the appropriate MS newsgroup/forum.
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Originally Posted by hurn
As always back up any vital data just in case it all goes tits up.
Just need your address to bring my Laptop round to when it blows on update....................
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I've just installed SP3 on an AMD machine and an Intel machine, and both seem to work OK. Both were SP2.
Curiously, the installation on the AMD PC opened up a DOS box with a load of "unrecognised command" (or similar) lines scrolling up inside it at a great speed, but it all seems to run afterwards...
Curiously, the installation on the AMD PC opened up a DOS box with a load of "unrecognised command" (or similar) lines scrolling up inside it at a great speed, but it all seems to run afterwards...
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Works for me ...
I run an AMD 64 bit processor with XP SP2.
This machine has run rock solid for about 7 years now; it never crashes or requires a re-boot and runs 24/7.
After reading that SP3 might compromise AMD machines, and I don't trust Bill, I have decided to decline the update until I have more time for further investigation. (Did I mention I work full time, (two jobs) have a wife, three kids and a dog?)
I have declined the SP3 update and told the updater to not offer it again.
I still receive later dated security and other updates for both Windows XP and Office 2007 in the normal way. My choice is to be notified of available updates, but let me decide which to install.
Works for me ...
Two Dogs
EDIT: Time to switch to UNIX ...
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,1...9291784,00.htm
This machine has run rock solid for about 7 years now; it never crashes or requires a re-boot and runs 24/7.
After reading that SP3 might compromise AMD machines, and I don't trust Bill, I have decided to decline the update until I have more time for further investigation. (Did I mention I work full time, (two jobs) have a wife, three kids and a dog?)
I have declined the SP3 update and told the updater to not offer it again.
I still receive later dated security and other updates for both Windows XP and Office 2007 in the normal way. My choice is to be notified of available updates, but let me decide which to install.
Works for me ...
Two Dogs
EDIT: Time to switch to UNIX ...
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,1...9291784,00.htm
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Well, SP3 installed fine on the back up....
But on the primary, I keep getting 'Access Denied'. When it eventually hands control of the computer back to me, checking the 'Update History' tells me that an 0x80070005 error was the problem.
WTF is an 0x80070005? On another occasion, it identified a 0x8007F02B.
This was when trying to use the Microsoft Update, rather than the Automatic Updates.
Can anyone advise what the cause - and remedy - of this problem is likely to be?
But on the primary, I keep getting 'Access Denied'. When it eventually hands control of the computer back to me, checking the 'Update History' tells me that an 0x80070005 error was the problem.
WTF is an 0x80070005? On another occasion, it identified a 0x8007F02B.
This was when trying to use the Microsoft Update, rather than the Automatic Updates.
Can anyone advise what the cause - and remedy - of this problem is likely to be?
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An 0x80070005 error is an "Access Denied" error. 
Suggested things to check: You are running as an admin; you disabled the AV/other security software (be disconnected when doing this) before installing the update.
More info here.
Suggested things to check: You are running as an admin; you disabled the AV/other security software (be disconnected when doing this) before installing the update.
More info here.
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Sorry, but that doesn't mean a thing to me.
Access to what is denied - and by whom?
I really hate those meaningless Microsoft messages!
Access to what is denied - and by whom?
I really hate those meaningless Microsoft messages!
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Some files, registry applications etc are locked from alteration. So if something tries to write an entry and doesn't have the privilege required, access is denied. (I find a most of those error messages a bit, ummm, generic in nature, too.)
Did you check the link/suggestions above? Any answers?
Did you check the link/suggestions above? Any answers?