Wikiposts
Search
Computer/Internet Issues & Troubleshooting Anyone with questions about the terribly complex world of computers or the internet should try here. NOT FOR REPORTING ISSUES WITH PPRuNe FORUMS! Please use the subforum "PPRuNe Problems or Queries."

Very Slow Start-up For Laptop

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 7th Mar 2008, 18:22
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: ...back of the drag curve
Age: 61
Posts: 558
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Very Slow Start-up For Laptop

My 6 month old Laptop is suddenly taking an inordinate amount of time to even get to the Windows welcome screen (>3 mins). Not sure what could have caused this, as yesterday, it was fine and I havent done anything, loaded anything etc.. Have checked the obvious, deleted any cookies/viruses etc

Do any of you PC gurus have an idea as to where/what to investigate first?

Many thanks

CD
'Chuffer' Dandridge is offline  
Old 7th Mar 2008, 19:30
  #2 (permalink)  
bnt
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Dublin, Ireland. (No, I just live here.)
Posts: 733
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts
There's no single answer, but if you can see the hard drive "thrashing" during this period, have a look at it:
- is it nearly full? If so, try deleting some stuff, and run "cleanmgr" to see if there are temporary files you can clean off.
- See if you need to defragment: run "defrag /a" or select "Defragment" in the Disk Properties, then the "analyze" button.

You need >15% free space to defrag, so if you need to free up space for defragmentation, you can:
a) stop Hibernation and delete the HIBER.FIL (?) file in C:\
b) on System Properties / Advanced, temporarily turn off Virtual Memory (Pagefile) & reboot. Re-enable Virtual Memory after defragmenting.
bnt is offline  
Old 8th Mar 2008, 01:50
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 3,982
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
This topic was discussed on a previous thread:-

Slow Laptop
fireflybob is offline  
Old 8th Mar 2008, 18:08
  #4 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: ...back of the drag curve
Age: 61
Posts: 558
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks guys.

I have tried all the obvious things, including defrag etc. theres bags of space left on the hard drive and no HDD hard working. Rather a 'click, click, click' sort of usage...

It's now locking up for an extended time and then displays the following message once it decides t wake up again:

"Logon process has failed to create the security options dialog

Failure - security options"

It's operating MS Vista with Norton AV but I'm not sure what it refers to - it gives no clues..


Any further suggestions before it's driven over by an HGV....?
'Chuffer' Dandridge is offline  
Old 8th Mar 2008, 20:29
  #5 (permalink)  
Spoon PPRuNerist & Mad Inistrator
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Twickenham, home of rugby
Posts: 7,414
Received 280 Likes on 179 Posts
Rather a 'click, click, click' sort of usage...
That's almost certainly the harbinger of incipient total hard disk failure.

Backup your data ASAP and prepare to replace it!

SD
Saab Dastard is offline  
Old 8th Mar 2008, 23:41
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: A home for the bewildered
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Norton AV
Don't give up hope until you remove anything and everything bearing the names 'Norton' and 'Symantec.'

Freebies like AVG and Avast work better and use fewer resources than the big names like Norton and McAfee.
GrumpyOldFart is offline  
Old 9th Mar 2008, 00:22
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Wellington,NZ
Age: 66
Posts: 1,679
Received 10 Likes on 4 Posts
Inclined to agree with doing away with Norton. (There is a removal tool available from symantec which should be used following the uninstall.) But as to why this has suddenly started when it worked well before? No idea, sorry. Would suspect some kind of malware as possible. and a scan with a good "second opinion" scanner such as Superantispyware, and/or DrWeb's Cureit should at least put that question to bed.
I found when I had Norton on a brand new PC it worked fine for a time (albeit a bit sluggish) but then started exhibiting slower and slower behaviour. So maybe it is Norton.
Good AV alternatives (free) include Avast, and Avira, and for antispyware Superantispyware, Threatfire, and MalwareBytes, Firewall alternatives include Online Armour and Comodo.
There are plenty more.
Tarq57 is offline  
Old 9th Mar 2008, 05:03
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The Land of Beer and Chocolate
Age: 56
Posts: 798
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
On a side note, the Norton Removal Tool does NOT remove everything. It leaves stuff everywhere and you still have to go through PC/registry to remove everything manually if you want it all off your system.
hellsbrink is offline  
Old 9th Mar 2008, 05:43
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Hedge
Posts: 227
Received 23 Likes on 6 Posts
Quote:
Norton AV
Don't give up hope until you remove anything and everything bearing the names 'Norton' and 'Symantec.'

Freebies like AVG and Avast work better and use fewer resources than the big names like Norton and McAfee.
What Jerry said^^^

Also invest in a Registry Cleaning/Maintenance Tool. I would recommend Registry Mechanic by PC Tools.
Salusa is offline  
Old 23rd Mar 2008, 21:47
  #10 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: ...back of the drag curve
Age: 61
Posts: 558
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well well,

Just downloaded the Vista SP1 and whaddya know, the startup time goes back to 1:20.........

A previous Windows update appears to be the culprit, and I cant help thinking that further updates are only there to correct the damage done previously......

Cynical?
'Chuffer' Dandridge is offline  
Old 23rd Mar 2008, 21:51
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Wellington,NZ
Age: 66
Posts: 1,679
Received 10 Likes on 4 Posts
That sounds likely.
And another good reason to take control of Windows Updates. Makes troubleshooting a bit easier if you're in the loop.
Tarq57 is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.