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Old 31st May 2006, 23:15
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Protecting the computer from viruses

Hi Everyone

This is my first post here. I want to know more about which are the best packages to protect my computer from viruses. I'm willing to pay for a really good service.

Which ones do you all suggest?
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Don't pay! Avast! or AVG are highly rated, and FREE. If on XP, use Defender as well
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Declaring an interest as the 'webmeister' of the IIA Internet Security Portal - go and check out all of the resources and advice available for free from:
http://www.security.iia.net.au

And is you want to use the "Ask and Expert' facility I will arrange for an answer.
 
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I'm afraid you'll have to pay for a constantly updated antivirus service. That's the unfortunate situation we're facing. Yesterday's papers are cheap, but only good for fish-wrapping -- the news are already printed elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by DBTL
I'm afraid you'll have to pay for a constantly updated antivirus service.

Not so!

Avast updates itself pretty much every day, and hasn't cost me a penny.
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You'll have to take into account the speed of response, and the width of the coverage as well. Taking the "ransomware" trojan that was mentioned recently on this forum (called Trojan.Archiveus, Trojan.Win32.MayArchive.b, Archiveus, depending on the antivir maker) as an example, I was unable to find a mention of it in the Avast database updates today.
Since slave labour is illegal in Western societies, you'll be paying for a comprehensive coverage in one way or the other. Ad-based financing may not be the best choice for a privacy-oriented product such as an antivirus package. I feel security is one the factors you just need to take into account in the total cost of computer ownership today.



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Use anything.....EXCEPT Norton. Unless you really want to slow your PC down.
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Hi everyone.

Thanks for your replies.

VH-GRUMPY, I've submitted my question for the expert's answer.

So far, it looks like Avast / AVG / Defender

What do you all think of McAfee?
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" What do you all think of McAfee?"

About as desirable as Norton! Wouldn't touch it.
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What do you all think of McAfee?
Excellent product. Used it for 4 years now & to compare it to Norton is laughable. That would be like comparing Pipex with AOL.
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I use AVG for my antivirus on my desktop, its fairly old and AVG isnt to resource hungry, on my laptop i use NOD32, for someone with a decent spec pc i recomend NOD32. Tried Norton, Mcafee, Avast, Panda, and Zonealarm range in the past and found the two i use at the moment to be the good ones for me.

Firewall i have used nothing apart from Zonealarm though if you want a proper firewall you would want a hardware on on a router etc.

Spyware/Adware - Spybot, Ad adware, Microsofts Antispyware.

Thats about all i use to keep my systems clean, but i do like to have a 'clear out' and do a format here and there.
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Protect your Irn_Bru

Hi Irn_Bru,
I've tried all the free AV software, but like everything, you pay for what you get!
I have been so pleased with NOD32 I purchased a three-year licence when it came up for renewal.
They say it all here
NOD32 Receives 36th Virus Bulletin 100% Award
It is almost 8 years now since the NOD32 Anti-Virus System from ESET Software was first tested by the prestigious Virus Bulletin. It still remains the only product never to have missed an “in the wild” virus in their tests since first introduced in May 1998. This is further reinforced by the latest Virus Bulletin test results in February where NOD32 achieved its record 36th VB 100% Award.
Not only did NOD32 have 100% detection across all test sets (In the Wild, Macro, Polymorphic & Standard viruses) in both On Demand and On Access testing, it also had the fastest overall hard disk scanning speeds. With a much smaller system footprint and lower use of system resources, NOD32 scanned substantially faster than all other products and more than twice as fast as certain brand names (Symantec Norton, Kaspersky, BitDefender).
ESET Software’s dedicated and highly skilled development team have made these remarkable results possible through their consistent efforts, whilst constantly adding a wealth of new features and functionality to the product over the years.
I'm been virus free since NOD32
Cheers
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Yeah, TG, but I've been using Avast! for years with no problem (and no cost!).
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Originally Posted by Tartan Giant
I'm been virus free since NOD32
Tartan Giant
That makes two of us
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spyware

Here we go again!!! I am using ad-aware to clean my laptop, continually protect it with anti virus personal clean and check nearly every day and sites still hang!!! messengers slow down with the appropiate warnings, web cams freeze!! I even tried spy doctor and it found 82 new infections - guess what they want $30 to subscribe. Why does one programme find spyware and others don't??
Oh I use talktalk as my server, with all the publicity about free broadband then I guess the whole of the Uk has signed up and slowed it right down - oh yes 20p per min to tell you that!!! come back dial up all is forgiven - never had any problems then!!!
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Generally programmes that find that much spyware will con you in to paying to get rid of the (non-existant) infections! you might find this http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm interesting.
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Originally Posted by Tartan Giant
Hi Irn_Bru,
I've tried all the free AV software, but like everything, you pay for what you get!
I have been so pleased with NOD32 I purchased a three-year licence when it came up for renewal.
They say it all here

I'm been virus free since NOD32
Cheers
Tartan Giant
The products that got the VB 100% mark in June 2006 were: Avira, CA eTrust, Authentium, Doctor Web, Eset NOD 32, Fortinet FortiClient, F-Secure AntiVirus, GDATA AntiVirusKit, Grisoft AVG, Kaspersky AntiVirus, McAfee VirusScan, Microsoft OneCare, MicroWorld eScanWin, Norman Virus Control, NWI Virus Chaser, Softwin BitDefender, Sophos Antivirus, Symantec Antivirus.

One of the failed ones was Alwil avast! (their exclamation mark)

You may also want to read:
http://www.av-comparatives.org/seite...e/report09.pdf

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I'm sure Irn wouldn't mind

I received a message from Irn as he said he would - and I am sure he wouldn't mind me publishing my response. I am an humanoid! (I have made two small edits to tidy up the language).

"Hi Irn

I see that you said in the PPRUNE site that you had emailed me.
As I am sure you will understand I cannot recommend an individual program.
However, I purposely have two email address on the IIA security portal designed to suck up all of the scam and viruses. They are unprotected.

What I then do is use Nortons Antivirus 2006 - despite what others say about slowing down the system - this can be a problem if you use Norton Systemsworks and don't switch some live monitoring items off. NAV2006 includes an anti-spyware program . But I also use Microsoft Defender to block spyware and also use a free version of Adaware.

I get hit every day by lots of spam, emails with viruses and other malware but have not had one yet get into my system and destroy it.

I know that McAfee, Trend Micro and the MessageLabs systems also work well. As will may of the the freeware and shareware programs about.

Best to try what suits you and your budget - just keep it up to date.
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NOD32 and Kaspersky are the ones to look at.

A mate of mine used AVG until I scanned his HDD using my antivirus software and it found 156 viruses..... says it all for AVG.


The problem with anti virus software is those that babble on about how good Avast/AVG/Norton/Mcafee are, don't know when a virus slips through. Remember, it only tells you when it catches one, and not when it misses it. Get some proper anti virus software.... for the sake of £30 a year, it's not much.

I use NOD32 by the way.
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Originally Posted by irn_bru
Hi Everyone

This is my first post here. I want to know more about which are the best packages to protect my computer from viruses. I'm willing to pay for a really good service.

Which ones do you all suggest?
I suggest:

(1) don't download viruses
(2) don't install viruses
(3) don't run viruses.

Er, that's it really. The advantages you get from this approach are:

(a) you don't get viruses
(b) your computer doesn't run like a fast-asleep snail because of the CPU cycles stolen by your anti-virus "solution"
(c) your computer doesn't keep crashing because of your anti-virus "solution"
(d) when you install new applications they actually work because they don't have "conflicts" with your anti-virus "solution".

(OK, so maybe you don't want to connect an out-of-date unpatched machine directly to the internet, but that's why you put a stealth mode router between your PC and the broadband connection.)
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