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Old 23rd May 2006, 08:56
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€ on the 5 spot.



Morning all.

A friend of mine who is even less computer literate than I has a peculiar keyboard - well, a non UK keyboard anyway.
On mine, the € sign is to the bottom right of the numeric 4 key. In order to access the €, one presses AltGr and then the 4 key.
On his keyboard, the € sign is on the numeric 5 key. Poor chap is stranded in Seycehelles and cannot work out how to access the euro sign on his board.
He has played around with all the permutations of the keys but has obviously not come upon the correct combination.
Any advice please?
Many thanks.
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Old 23rd May 2006, 09:01
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Alt+0128 should do it for you
Alt+156 for the pound sign
 
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Many thanks. I'll relay that information forthwith. He'll be a happy bunny.
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Old 23rd May 2006, 11:50
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If it is a european keyboard then:

Ctrl+Alt+5 = €

Alt+0128 does it as well - as SSK says, on my european keyboard the £ is Alt+0163 though
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AltGr+E ??
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I keep a word document on the task bar with all the odd symbols like
£ $ € ¢ ¼ ½ ¾ º ® © ™ ± ² ³ √ ℅ ....
in it. Use the "Insert" - "Symbol" menu to pick the ones you need a lot.
When you need a symbol, just open the file, copy your symbol and paste. Its just as quick as trying to remember all those weird key combinations.

Of course, you can always invent your own simpler "Hot Keys"...

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Old 25th May 2006, 04:38
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More complicated than I had thought. Still no word back from THe Indian Ocean. Lucky chap's probably far too busy fishing or something to bother with keyboards.
AltGr E on mine gives me é, which is very useful to me as I write a lot of Spanish and, would you believe, have been changing the whole keyboard over each time I need to write an accent.
Thank you!
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Old 25th May 2006, 23:45
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Character Map

If this is teaching you to suck eggs then please forgive me.

Both Windows and Apple have a little application to access all the characters that an individual font has available to it.

In Windows it is called "Character Map"and on the Mac "Keycaps". (If anyone needs basic advice on "Keycaps" then please let me know).

To access "Character Map" under Windows XP you can go Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > and then click on Character Map. Older versions of Windows also have it located in a similar place.

With Character Map open you can then select the typeface/font that you want to use from the pulldown menu - say Arial - and then scroll down through all the different characters to find the symbol you want (note the scroll bars on the rhs). On mine the Euro symbol is in the middle of the screen when the rhs scroll bar is about two thirds to three quarters of the way down.

Next Double-click the symbol(s) you want to use and they will appear in a "Characters to copy" line at either the top or the bottom of the window depending on your version of Windows. (If you single click the symbol it will enlarge and you will see the alt code at the bottom of the window). The next stage can be done in several ways but one way is to then press the "copy" button and to then return to the application that you are using ie Word and you can then single-click your mouse at the point you want your character(s) to appear and then use "paste" to get the characters to appear. (Paste as in ctrl + v or edit > paste).

The advantage of using Character Map or Keycaps is that you gain access to all the accents etc. that a font has, as well as such symbols as Trademark, Copyright and Registered, without needing to know the Alt Code for that character. Some programmes can access Character Map directly without using "Start" etc. but for others you have no choice but to use "Start".

Please be aware that some software applications can't access all the characters in a font so occasionally I end up pasting gobbledygook instead of the symbol that I have copied from Character Map.

If anyone else has better advice on using Character Map then please help me out.
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I didn't mention it but that's where I copied all the symbols from that I like to keep handy in the fast access word doc on my task bar...
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No eggs to suck there. Thank you very much for the information and the time it took to give it.
Still no word from my man in Mahe so I suppose that plastic keyboards are not uppermost in his mind at the moment.
I, on the other hand, have found the information very useful indeed.
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Thank you one and all. My friend, raised from his soporific slumbers in the isles of paradise informs me that it 'works a treat'. I suspect though that he will continue to write € as e if only to speed things up a little.
But, many thanks. Until the next call for help.
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So there's actually somewhere, good for some! My old recollections of the Sun shining are still being refreshed.

I wonder if people are generally aware of the accent keys that sit near the right top. Press one on them, with or without the combined SHIFT key, followed by a vowel key, and you get áàäâ, or, í ì î ï and the like. For instance, to get my important ö's and ä's I could use either that or the dedicated "Ö" and "Ä" keys on my SWE/FIN keyboard.
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