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Old 6th Dec 2005, 11:54
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Win XP Pro help please?

The little 'connection' icon (2 computers) in the systray (for ADSL) has a right-click - 'Disconnect'. Just lately when I 'disconnect' it doesn't seem to, and then the machine hangs on shutdown with a 'connection tray' end programme prompt. I have checked Google and the MS Knowledge base and cannot find what is wrong. Anyone know what to 'tweak'?
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May not apply but I thought the two little pcs were only there for dial-up. Certainly on my xp home sys they are not here and I am on ADS.L
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On mine, rt click on the connection, properties, tick the box at the bottom 'show icon'.
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BOAC, have a shuftie in the network connections (Control panel) and then have a play in there. Sometimes XP will throw up 2 or 3 iinstances of the connection icon in the task bar, but until you find out exactly what they are, they can be a little misleading.


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Yes, Conan - I have the 'outbreak' but the one which I am having trouble with is the correct one and only appears when ADSL connected. The others are, I think, Bluetooth and network?
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BOAC . . . . .

Any error messages in your Event Viewer, relevant to the times this is happening?

Administrative Tools > Event Viewer > System (right-click any errors for further info. and/or error message numbers. The numbers - if any - are usually the next step to a solution).
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I've got two in my system tray - you can display either or both (or not) by checking the box "Show icon in notification area when connected" in Status -> Properties -> General

One is for the local network - thats your PC talking to the ADSL modem and any other nodes on the network.

The other is for the "Internet Connection" as MS calls it and represents your PC actually making a connection to your ISP (via your local network and ADSL modem).

Not sure what's causing your problem though...
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BST - totally out of my depth now! Today and yesterday I have a few 'warnings' and 'errors' -

warnings of

serial 4
TCPIP 4226

errors of

Service control manager 7034
W32Time 4226


.......now, if only I knew what they meant..................

..................but appreciate enormously the attention you are giving!
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What I would do, and have done BOAC, is to kill that dial-up and do another. There are two ways. One is to dump it or to change the ID with an additional letter or digit. Then if you want to go back to your original setting - just dump and set up again.

Yet another check is Tools>Internet Options>Connections>Settings and check that all is OK. Also check that Lan Settings has unchecked boxes. To setup again or re-config you can use the CONNECTIONS page. Can't be certain but its worth a try.

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I have those two little screens and a red cross too. It tells me a LAN connection is unplugged. I don't have a LAN and my ADSL connection is via USB whereas my computer thinks it should be via the Ethernet connection and so produces these two screens with a red cross but it is a spurious warning.
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Thanks all, but the icon is correct, and it is in the 'disconnect' I am having trouble leading to WinXp not shutting down correctly.

I think 'BST' 'is on the trail'

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BOAC . . . . .

Such faith (!); not quite as cut and dried as some warning/error messages (needless to say!).

Service Control Manager errors cover a multitude of areas, but the Tcpip entry may be relevant/related. ...Most info. on Tcpip 4226 seems to revolve around post SP2 effects on the TCP/IP stack, which although it sounds alarming is neatly summed up HERE along with a couple of scenarios and a quick investigation via Command Prompt. ...And if that last bit sounds worrying (it did to me) a simple netstat -no and then press Enter did bring up the required information at this end.

May be of help, but I confess perhaps a long shot . . . . . Good luck!
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Apparently justified faith! I now know a lot more about Win 'events' etc. What a black art it all is.

Regarding 'scenarios' I am pretty certain it is not (1) as the virus checking/screening is pretty tight - and am sure I know what it is.

At the moment I am resisting implementing the increase in connections described for fear of screwing up another part of Bill's wonderful world! OOI, the netstat -no only produces a momentary DOS window and I cannot see what is there?

Thanks BST - I'll 'sit' there for a while.
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If netstat is changing that fast try this site and download TCPView. run endpoint viewer and it should give you a screen with your connections on both TCP and UDP
The message you are getting is saying that your TCPIP connections are exceeding the limits set by SP2 on windows xp, are you running any P2P programs or if you are on a wireless network is it secure?
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maxell - thank you and that works fine. It shows several conns as 'time_wait' and I ?understand? that the limit of 10 conns places any extra in a queue which take a finite time to process? Fascinating to watch the changes!!!

No to wireless - and occasional P2P - so I think I can 'close the case'

Would YOU recommend increasing the number of conns from 10 to 50?
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OOI, the netstat -no only produces a momentary DOS window and I cannot see what is there?
It does that because you're typing the netstat command straight into the 'Run' dialog box. Better to enter 'cmd' in the 'Run' box, this will open a dos window. (Alternatively go to Start - Programs - Accessories - Command prompt) You can then enter the netstat command at the prompt and view the results.
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Thank you, Jhieminga - I told you I was out of my depth!!

Do any of you folk have warnings etc for me about increasing the number of connections form 10 to 50? With anti-virus modules running there are a lot of 'time_wait' s in the list.

Found this as well and am trying it at '30' secs.

Edit again: and since I have done that, my browser is actually 'flying'! - coincidence or...........?

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BOAC . . . . .

Nearly there then, maybe.

Just to reiterate an earlier point for future reference on all snags - don't know if you actually went there on this one - but there is a lot of useful info. in Event Viewer by right clicking to 'Properties'. ...Usually a good start.

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Old 8th Dec 2005, 13:08
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Yes, BST, I looked, and it did give the info on 'the limit' for connections. I am still at (default) '10' and in view of the improvement with the 'waitdelay' hack I think I'll hold there - what say you? It really is flying right now

I understand the 'default' delay is 240 secs and the TIME_WAITS are clearing far faster now and shut down is ok..

Thanks to all my tutors!
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Might as well stick with it for now if you are happy.

An interesting development and now that you have highlighted it I see there is quite a bit of information around on this course of action. ...I would be very curious to hear from anyone if there is a downside to this.
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