iMac questions for a Windows convert
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Flaps
Depends on whether or not the image was 'placed' on the webpage. If it's one that was, you can place the pointer over the image (using the trackpad), click and hold (using your thumb, and then drag the image to your desktop (using your finger). Then release your thumb and bobs your uncle.
Editing requires an image manipulation application (i.e. Adobe Photoshop).
Trips
Edited to add: AM, we need to get a life!
Depends on whether or not the image was 'placed' on the webpage. If it's one that was, you can place the pointer over the image (using the trackpad), click and hold (using your thumb, and then drag the image to your desktop (using your finger). Then release your thumb and bobs your uncle.
Editing requires an image manipulation application (i.e. Adobe Photoshop).
Trips
Edited to add: AM, we need to get a life!
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Macster 
for the saving-
less luck with the editing; even if the editing tools in iPhoto are simple enough, I have no idea how to save the result.
Drag to desktop? huh???
Chaps, we all need to get a life but never mind that now.
Oh and while we're at it; does an iBook sport a delete button or only the <---- one at the top rihjt corner of the keyboard? Very unpractical when I want to delete a current web addy in the adres line to type in a new one; I must be doing something wrong.
intuitive... grumble grumble....
for the saving-less luck with the editing; even if the editing tools in iPhoto are simple enough, I have no idea how to save the result.
Drag to desktop? huh???
Chaps, we all need to get a life but never mind that now.
Oh and while we're at it; does an iBook sport a delete button or only the <---- one at the top rihjt corner of the keyboard? Very unpractical when I want to delete a current web addy in the adres line to type in a new one; I must be doing something wrong.
intuitive... grumble grumble....
Bringer of Wx
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Image changes are saved 'automatically' in iPhoto. If you don't like something you've done, you MUST undo it, if you want to save changes, press 'Done.' It's neither intuitive nor satisfactory, I know - I've fallen foul of this unfortunate 'feature' a few times myself. I hope it gets fixed in future versions. Overall however, iPhoto is still a lovely app for basic image manupulation requirements.
Oddly enough Falps, the 'Delete' key on iBooks (and Powerbooks too I think) is actually a backspace. To modify this to the 'forward delete' I think you're after, try 'Fn+Del'.
Here are some more OS X keyboard shortcuts you may find useful
Jx
PS Paparazzi is a great little free utility for making captures of web pages. It can capture any non-visible parts of a page in addition to that which you can see!
Oddly enough Falps, the 'Delete' key on iBooks (and Powerbooks too I think) is actually a backspace. To modify this to the 'forward delete' I think you're after, try 'Fn+Del'.
Here are some more OS X keyboard shortcuts you may find useful
Jx
PS Paparazzi is a great little free utility for making captures of web pages. It can capture any non-visible parts of a page in addition to that which you can see!
Ramasseur des pommes
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Flaps,
You should have got Graphic Converter bundled with your iBook. You can do a fair amount of editing with it. The latest version is 5.7.3 and you can download it here. It's a lot cheaper than Photoshop and has a lot of the same features.
Trip: Yes, I know. Mrs AM has taken the car to London, so I'm stuck in The Shire. That's my excuse anyway...
You should have got Graphic Converter bundled with your iBook. You can do a fair amount of editing with it. The latest version is 5.7.3 and you can download it here. It's a lot cheaper than Photoshop and has a lot of the same features.
Trip: Yes, I know. Mrs AM has taken the car to London, so I'm stuck in The Shire. That's my excuse anyway...
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Just Binos
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Thanks, AM. Now have my bookmarks transferred, using "export to" in IE rather than "import from" in Safari. Would have thought it was the same thing, but never mind, it's the result that counts.
The wireless thing? Still way over my head. I have some days off coming up and will devote time to investigating seriously. I thought the whole idea of Wireless was to do away with T5 cable?
Flappy, glad to hear you're getting something of value out of this. Any other converts with problems are more than welcome to post here; it's a community noticeboard!
The wireless thing? Still way over my head. I have some days off coming up and will devote time to investigating seriously. I thought the whole idea of Wireless was to do away with T5 cable?
Flappy, glad to hear you're getting something of value out of this. Any other converts with problems are more than welcome to post here; it's a community noticeboard!
Ramasseur des pommes
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Binos,
Glad you got the Bookmarks sorted.
What do you want to connect wirelessly? Usually people just want to connect their Mac to their broadband connection and printer(s). Firstly, you have to find out how your broadband is provided - there are different approaches if you have satellite, adsl or cable. Each one requires a "router" of some sort, but the specific equipment required can be different. Let us know what you want to connect, and we can advise!
AppleMacster
Glad you got the Bookmarks sorted.
What do you want to connect wirelessly? Usually people just want to connect their Mac to their broadband connection and printer(s). Firstly, you have to find out how your broadband is provided - there are different approaches if you have satellite, adsl or cable. Each one requires a "router" of some sort, but the specific equipment required can be different. Let us know what you want to connect, and we can advise!
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Flaps
Sorry hun, maybe I didn't explain quite well enough.
You have a track pad and a clicker underneath it (that's how you move your pointer). Your desktop is the screen you have when all applications, folders etc are closed down (either standard Apple screen or another you may have selected). This may sound a bit basic, but let's go through it anyway.
Dragging:
With your right hand, move your pointer over the "Hard Disc" image on your desktop. When it's there, with your left hand, press and hold down the clicker. Now, with your right hand, move your finger across the trackpad as if you were moving the pointer. You'll notice the icon moves with the pointer (that's called 'dragging'). If you release the clicker, the image will 'drop' into the place you released it.
Dragging to desktop:
Essentially you are doing exactly the same thing, as above, but 'dragging' an image (or rather a copy of it) off the web page. Make sure your Safari window doesn't cover the whole screen ('Drag' the bottom right corner until the window fits the shape/size you want). Put the pointer over a picture on the web page and do exactly as you did above with icon, except dont release the clicker until the pointer is somewhere on the desktop. If it's an image that was 'placed', you should then see an icon of the file (image) on your desktop for the image that you have just dragged and dropped. You can then place in whatever folder you choose by opening your hard disc or user window and dragging it and releasing it when the chosen folder is highlighted. You can also import it into iPhoto by opening iPhoto and selecting File then Import (don't use the Import button under the piccies) and then selecting the file.
Sorry if I've covered too much stuff you already knew - but that's what "Drag to Desktop" means.
Trips
Sorry hun, maybe I didn't explain quite well enough.
You have a track pad and a clicker underneath it (that's how you move your pointer). Your desktop is the screen you have when all applications, folders etc are closed down (either standard Apple screen or another you may have selected). This may sound a bit basic, but let's go through it anyway.
Dragging:
With your right hand, move your pointer over the "Hard Disc" image on your desktop. When it's there, with your left hand, press and hold down the clicker. Now, with your right hand, move your finger across the trackpad as if you were moving the pointer. You'll notice the icon moves with the pointer (that's called 'dragging'). If you release the clicker, the image will 'drop' into the place you released it.
Dragging to desktop:
Essentially you are doing exactly the same thing, as above, but 'dragging' an image (or rather a copy of it) off the web page. Make sure your Safari window doesn't cover the whole screen ('Drag' the bottom right corner until the window fits the shape/size you want). Put the pointer over a picture on the web page and do exactly as you did above with icon, except dont release the clicker until the pointer is somewhere on the desktop. If it's an image that was 'placed', you should then see an icon of the file (image) on your desktop for the image that you have just dragged and dropped. You can then place in whatever folder you choose by opening your hard disc or user window and dragging it and releasing it when the chosen folder is highlighted. You can also import it into iPhoto by opening iPhoto and selecting File then Import (don't use the Import button under the piccies) and then selecting the file.
Sorry if I've covered too much stuff you already knew - but that's what "Drag to Desktop" means.
Trips
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Just Binos
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Still a long way from having everything sorted, thanks largely to Microsoft's insistence on using an impenetrable fortress to guard my old emails, and the complete ignorance of their precious .dbx files by everything I try to use. But I'll try to accomplish something in that regard tomorrow with a clear head.
In the meantime, what are your general thoughts on firewalls/antivirus for the Mac? I have the Mac as my direct line to the internet with my Windows computer connecting through an Ethernet switch.
I'm still running Zone Alarm on the Windows poota, though it's a pain the ass as far as networking goes, plus my anti-virus (Computer Associates My e-Trust Anti virus), but no firewall on the Mac.
I assume CA have a Macintosh version, but I haven't done anything about installing it yet, perhaps lulled into a false sense of security by all the stories about nobody bothering to write viruses for Macs. But hey, there's gotta be tens of millions of Macs in the world, surely enough to write viruses for?
Ideas please, wise and otherwise?
In the meantime, what are your general thoughts on firewalls/antivirus for the Mac? I have the Mac as my direct line to the internet with my Windows computer connecting through an Ethernet switch.
I'm still running Zone Alarm on the Windows poota, though it's a pain the ass as far as networking goes, plus my anti-virus (Computer Associates My e-Trust Anti virus), but no firewall on the Mac.
I assume CA have a Macintosh version, but I haven't done anything about installing it yet, perhaps lulled into a false sense of security by all the stories about nobody bothering to write viruses for Macs. But hey, there's gotta be tens of millions of Macs in the world, surely enough to write viruses for?
Ideas please, wise and otherwise?
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Binos
Your mac comes with a built in firewall within the operating system. Go to the 'apple' (top left) - System Preferences - under 'Interenet and Network', click 'Sharing'. You can set your preferences about firewall and file sharing etc. from there.
As far as antivirus software is concerned, personally I'd keep away from Norton/Symantec. Having loaded it on originally, I found that so many onther settings had been changed (mainly due to the firewall part of it) that it became a real pain in the @rse when setting up things like iSight. It was removed. If you feel that you want the security of an antivirus, look at Intego
Intego
They seem to be the programme of choice, although you will find plenty of others out there. Personally, I use VirusBarrier. I also know a lot of mac users who don't bother with any, and none to my knowledge have ever been infected (as you say, viruses for mac are few and far between, although not unknown. Probably because it's too hard to write them!)
Trips
Your mac comes with a built in firewall within the operating system. Go to the 'apple' (top left) - System Preferences - under 'Interenet and Network', click 'Sharing'. You can set your preferences about firewall and file sharing etc. from there.
As far as antivirus software is concerned, personally I'd keep away from Norton/Symantec. Having loaded it on originally, I found that so many onther settings had been changed (mainly due to the firewall part of it) that it became a real pain in the @rse when setting up things like iSight. It was removed. If you feel that you want the security of an antivirus, look at Intego
Intego
They seem to be the programme of choice, although you will find plenty of others out there. Personally, I use VirusBarrier. I also know a lot of mac users who don't bother with any, and none to my knowledge have ever been infected (as you say, viruses for mac are few and far between, although not unknown. Probably because it's too hard to write them!)
Trips
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Just Binos
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If my Mac has a built in firewall and the Windoze poota connects to it through a switch, does that mean I can disable Zone Alarm from the PC and it's protected by the Mac firewall?
Ramasseur des pommes
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Binos,
You do not need any anti-virus software as there are no viruses for the mac. It's just not an issue. You will only start to use up resources on your machine from which you could benefit solely. I've been using macs for nineteen years and *never* had a virus. For the last ten years, I've been more-or-less permanently online. I don't even turn on the software firewall. Don't be dragged into the virus paranoia which affecs Windows machines so much. Mac OS X is a far superior operating system in so many ways, but especially in terms of security.
As far as I know, if the Mac software firewall is on and your PC is connected to the internet through it, the PC should be protected by it. You can specify which ports to open if necessary on the software firewall. However, once you get the broadband sorted, your router should have a hardware firewall built-in.
AppleMacster
(apologies if a little over-zealous above)
You do not need any anti-virus software as there are no viruses for the mac. It's just not an issue. You will only start to use up resources on your machine from which you could benefit solely. I've been using macs for nineteen years and *never* had a virus. For the last ten years, I've been more-or-less permanently online. I don't even turn on the software firewall. Don't be dragged into the virus paranoia which affecs Windows machines so much. Mac OS X is a far superior operating system in so many ways, but especially in terms of security.
As far as I know, if the Mac software firewall is on and your PC is connected to the internet through it, the PC should be protected by it. You can specify which ports to open if necessary on the software firewall. However, once you get the broadband sorted, your router should have a hardware firewall built-in.
AppleMacster
(apologies if a little over-zealous above)
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AM
Not that I disagree, but I understood that would only be the case if you were running OSX Server. The ethernet switch acts as a bypass to the mac and therefore it's firewall on that port. I accept that I maybe wrong - it's not something I've ever had to try.
Binos
See Networking with a Windows PC for more info on Windows file sharing. Also see Setting up Windows File Sharing. It's in human speak. I believe all routers and indeed Airport also have firewall protection so it becomes a bit of a non-issue when you go down that route.
Trips
Not that I disagree, but I understood that would only be the case if you were running OSX Server. The ethernet switch acts as a bypass to the mac and therefore it's firewall on that port. I accept that I maybe wrong - it's not something I've ever had to try.
Binos
See Networking with a Windows PC for more info on Windows file sharing. Also see Setting up Windows File Sharing. It's in human speak. I believe all routers and indeed Airport also have firewall protection so it becomes a bit of a non-issue when you go down that route.
Trips
Ramasseur des pommes
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Trip,
I'm pretty sure the software firewall in Tiger protects anything using it. You can opt out of using the firewall on various services/clients in System Preferences>Sharing>Firewall.
AppleMacster
I'm pretty sure the software firewall in Tiger protects anything using it. You can opt out of using the firewall on various services/clients in System Preferences>Sharing>Firewall.
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Binos A little late in the piece, but well done getting a Mac.
With short gaps to replace or repair my PC, I've had both platforms in my office for years for software reasons (which are becoming less relevant now).
The best thing about Macs is the lack of threat from viruses and spyware, and for the newer Macs, the Unix based OS. And who wants to use a computer where you have to hit 'start' to shut down
On top of that, you get a superb physical design (the phrase 'form factor' sucks, IMO): elegance in both appearance and function.
I enjoy using my Mac - I even enjoy looking at it.
Don't worry about teething problems - the Mac will soon fit you like an old wellington boot, as they say.
You'll have many happy hours together. They're intuitive enough that you simply produce the work - you can almost forget the intermediary of the computer!
With short gaps to replace or repair my PC, I've had both platforms in my office for years for software reasons (which are becoming less relevant now).
The best thing about Macs is the lack of threat from viruses and spyware, and for the newer Macs, the Unix based OS. And who wants to use a computer where you have to hit 'start' to shut down
On top of that, you get a superb physical design (the phrase 'form factor' sucks, IMO): elegance in both appearance and function.
I enjoy using my Mac - I even enjoy looking at it.
Don't worry about teething problems - the Mac will soon fit you like an old wellington boot, as they say.
You'll have many happy hours together. They're intuitive enough that you simply produce the work - you can almost forget the intermediary of the computer!
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Just Binos
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I suspect you're right, RJM, but it's an uneasy standoff between the PC and the Mac at the moment, rather like the old rooster glaring suspiciously at the new rival in the henhouse.
One thing at a time. I can't get the PC to print through the network. It's a Samsung ML1510 laser printer; I downloaded the Mac software for the Mac, which is printing fine, and the original PC software is still on the PC, which shows the Samsung as being the default printer, but it won't print. Nothing happens. The Print screen shows ther correct printer selected, and 1 document waiting, but silence is the stern reply. Suggestions?
WxJx; thanks for the PM, tend to agree out of sheer conditioning.
One thing at a time. I can't get the PC to print through the network. It's a Samsung ML1510 laser printer; I downloaded the Mac software for the Mac, which is printing fine, and the original PC software is still on the PC, which shows the Samsung as being the default printer, but it won't print. Nothing happens. The Print screen shows ther correct printer selected, and 1 document waiting, but silence is the stern reply. Suggestions?
WxJx; thanks for the PM, tend to agree out of sheer conditioning.
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Binos
Just a quick check.....
Under 'System Preferences', in the Hardware section click 'Print & Fax'. Click the 'Sharing' tab and make sure you've ticked both the 'Share these pinters with other computers' and the 'Samsung ML1510' boxes.
Also, check the PC Printer settings and make sure it knows where the printer is located.
Trips
Just a quick check.....
Under 'System Preferences', in the Hardware section click 'Print & Fax'. Click the 'Sharing' tab and make sure you've ticked both the 'Share these pinters with other computers' and the 'Samsung ML1510' boxes.
Also, check the PC Printer settings and make sure it knows where the printer is located.
Trips
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Just Binos
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Also, check the PC Printer settings and make sure it knows where the printer is located.
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Binos
What exactly is your setup? What connects to what, using which port/cable? Have you run the 'Add Printer' wizard on your PC?
The easiest solution is to use an ethernet hub and these problems will disappear into the ether (pun intended). In fact, better still, get yourself that little miracle in a box that is an Airport Extreme Basestation (provided your PC is WiFi capable). No point making your life difficult. Plug 'n' play.
I'm sorry I can't offer you any easy one liner, but I'm working blind here and just trying to offer you an easy, known solution.
Trips
What exactly is your setup? What connects to what, using which port/cable? Have you run the 'Add Printer' wizard on your PC?
The easiest solution is to use an ethernet hub and these problems will disappear into the ether (pun intended). In fact, better still, get yourself that little miracle in a box that is an Airport Extreme Basestation (provided your PC is WiFi capable). No point making your life difficult. Plug 'n' play.
I'm sorry I can't offer you any easy one liner, but I'm working blind here and just trying to offer you an easy, known solution.
Trips
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Just Binos
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Progress report, and nothing much has changed. Still can't get my Windows computer to print via the network, and neither could the "expert" I got around to solve the problem.
Anyway, minor grumbles aside, I enjoy the Mac. Whether it's worth the price compared to what you can get with Windows I'm not sure, and that problem will resurface in six weeks or so when it's time to get my yearly laptop. Can I justify the cost differential?
Well, I certainly won't be getting one of the Intel powered ones, which look as though they start at $3200. Given what's available for way under $2000 with Dell laptops, I'm not convinced that the iBook is not mainly a fashion item. Anyway, the question I dropped in here to ask concerns Office for Mac. I bought the genuine article for the iMac, but will I also be allowed to put it on an iBook?
If the answer is no, it makes the decision easy. I'll probably buy a top of the range intel powered Mac lappy with my salary sacrifice scheme, sell it brand new on ebay for a reasonable discount and use the proceeds to buy a souped up Dell.
Anybody know the conditions attached to Office?
Anyway, minor grumbles aside, I enjoy the Mac. Whether it's worth the price compared to what you can get with Windows I'm not sure, and that problem will resurface in six weeks or so when it's time to get my yearly laptop. Can I justify the cost differential?
Well, I certainly won't be getting one of the Intel powered ones, which look as though they start at $3200. Given what's available for way under $2000 with Dell laptops, I'm not convinced that the iBook is not mainly a fashion item. Anyway, the question I dropped in here to ask concerns Office for Mac. I bought the genuine article for the iMac, but will I also be allowed to put it on an iBook?
If the answer is no, it makes the decision easy. I'll probably buy a top of the range intel powered Mac lappy with my salary sacrifice scheme, sell it brand new on ebay for a reasonable discount and use the proceeds to buy a souped up Dell.
Anybody know the conditions attached to Office?
