AGP Card
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AGP Card
I have got a Riva TNT Series 2, 32Mb AGP Card which I want to use with an ABIT VT7 motherboard. The motherboard instructions state that it will not support 3.3V AGP cards and to use only 1.5V or 0.8V cards.
I cannot find out what voltage my card runs at and am loathe to try it in case it causes damage to the motherboard. I have tried Googling to find out but can only find PCI cards of the same type with no reference to voltage.
Can anybody come up with an answer as to the voltage of my card. It is about 4-5 years old(instructions lost). I don't want to buy a new one unless I have to as I don't use my 'puter for gaming and cash is short.
Thanks in advance.
CC
I cannot find out what voltage my card runs at and am loathe to try it in case it causes damage to the motherboard. I have tried Googling to find out but can only find PCI cards of the same type with no reference to voltage.
Can anybody come up with an answer as to the voltage of my card. It is about 4-5 years old(instructions lost). I don't want to buy a new one unless I have to as I don't use my 'puter for gaming and cash is short.
Thanks in advance.
CC
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I believe that your card is an AGP 1.0 spec., which is 3.3v I'm afraid.
Congratulations on not finding out the incompatability the hard way
I assume that your card is a Creative Labs or OEM product. You can get manuals from the Creative website.
As far as I know, Creative Labs owned the RIVA at that time and brought out a range of AGP and PCI cards based on the chipset.
I think they sold the video card stuff on to Nvidia a couple of years ago.
There are a few AGP 2X cards that run at 1.5v, but ALL the AGP 1.0 spec. cards ran at 3.3.
The AGP standards are a bit confusing, to say the least! AGP 1.0 had a multiplier of 1X or 2X, a voltage of 3.3 and a type 1 slot. AGP 2.0 had a multiplier of 2X or 4X, 1.5v and type 2 slot. AGP 3.0 (current) is 8X, 0.8v and type 2.
So there are some APG 2X cards that could be either 3.3 or 1.5v.
Yours is 2X, but I'm pretty sure it's 3.3v.
HTH
SD
Congratulations on not finding out the incompatability the hard way
I assume that your card is a Creative Labs or OEM product. You can get manuals from the Creative website.
As far as I know, Creative Labs owned the RIVA at that time and brought out a range of AGP and PCI cards based on the chipset.
I think they sold the video card stuff on to Nvidia a couple of years ago.
There are a few AGP 2X cards that run at 1.5v, but ALL the AGP 1.0 spec. cards ran at 3.3.
The AGP standards are a bit confusing, to say the least! AGP 1.0 had a multiplier of 1X or 2X, a voltage of 3.3 and a type 1 slot. AGP 2.0 had a multiplier of 2X or 4X, 1.5v and type 2 slot. AGP 3.0 (current) is 8X, 0.8v and type 2.
So there are some APG 2X cards that could be either 3.3 or 1.5v.
Yours is 2X, but I'm pretty sure it's 3.3v.
HTH
SD
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Compass Call,
A Vid Card that old would only slow down your comp. If you look at the AGP Key you will notice it will now even fit in the AGP Slot. You can force it to make it fit, but that will damage the mobo.
AGP 3.3v Key 3.3v Speed 2x, 1x Voltage 3.3v
AGP 1.5v Key 1.5v Speed 4x, 2x, Voltage 1x 1.5v
AGP 3.0 Key 1.5v Speed 8x, 4x Voltage 0.8v
AGP 3.3v keyed graphics card:
AGP Universal graphics card:
Take Care,
Richard
P.S. Saab Dastard, it looks like our posts crossed.
A Vid Card that old would only slow down your comp. If you look at the AGP Key you will notice it will now even fit in the AGP Slot. You can force it to make it fit, but that will damage the mobo.
AGP 3.3v Key 3.3v Speed 2x, 1x Voltage 3.3v
AGP 1.5v Key 1.5v Speed 4x, 2x, Voltage 1x 1.5v
AGP 3.0 Key 1.5v Speed 8x, 4x Voltage 0.8v
AGP 3.3v keyed graphics card:
AGP Universal graphics card:
Take Care,
Richard
P.S. Saab Dastard, it looks like our posts crossed.
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Richard,
You must have spent quite some time collating all that information!
At least we agree, which is the main thing - to avoid fried mobo
Cheers
SD
You must have spent quite some time collating all that information!
At least we agree, which is the main thing - to avoid fried mobo
Cheers
SD
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Saab Dastard
Thanks for the prompt reply. Learned something new about AGP cards. Didn't realise just how different they could be.
Richard
Thanks for the pictures. The card I have has a connector the same as the picture of the Universal AGP card - two slots in the middle, plus one right beside the 'hook'.
I think that I will go to my local shop and find a replacement. Again, many thanks for the replies, they were most enlightening.
CC
Thanks for the prompt reply. Learned something new about AGP cards. Didn't realise just how different they could be.
Richard
Thanks for the pictures. The card I have has a connector the same as the picture of the Universal AGP card - two slots in the middle, plus one right beside the 'hook'.
I think that I will go to my local shop and find a replacement. Again, many thanks for the replies, they were most enlightening.
CC
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Compass Call,
If you are looking to run Flight Sims or other 3-D programs, I would recommend either the GeForceFX 5900XT 128Mb or the Radeon 9800Pro 128Mb. They are both best bang for the buck.
Take Care,
Richard
If you are looking to run Flight Sims or other 3-D programs, I would recommend either the GeForceFX 5900XT 128Mb or the Radeon 9800Pro 128Mb. They are both best bang for the buck.
Take Care,
Richard
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Compass Call,
As you mentioned that you don't use your computer for gaming, something like a GeForce4MX or Radeon 9100 would probably provide more than enough video power. Especially when compared to your Riva card.
goates
As you mentioned that you don't use your computer for gaming, something like a GeForce4MX or Radeon 9100 would probably provide more than enough video power. Especially when compared to your Riva card.
goates
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goates,
Oops! that will teach me to skim though posts late at night.
You are absolutely right. The $50.00 level of GeForce or Radeon will serve Compass Call's needs if you are not gaming or running a Flight Sim.
Take Care,
Richard
Oops! that will teach me to skim though posts late at night.
You are absolutely right. The $50.00 level of GeForce or Radeon will serve Compass Call's needs if you are not gaming or running a Flight Sim.
Take Care,
Richard
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goates
Thanks for the suggestions. I am looking at the ABIT 9200SE-T, Which at 36 quid sounds like a good buy to me. I just hope it is the right voltage, ie. 1.5V or 0.8V. I am assuming that all 'modern' cards fall into one or other category.
Again, many thanks to all for the help and advice
CC
Thanks for the suggestions. I am looking at the ABIT 9200SE-T, Which at 36 quid sounds like a good buy to me. I just hope it is the right voltage, ie. 1.5V or 0.8V. I am assuming that all 'modern' cards fall into one or other category.
Again, many thanks to all for the help and advice
CC
