The Language of this forum is English
 

Question
 

Captain Stable,

We've had a discussion and vote of this matter in the recent past. However, only one question remains in my mind. Does this include quoting articles from Latin American newspapers?

Preferable would be to provide a translation of the article for those who don't speak Spanish, of whom there are many in the region as well as those in the rest of the world but an interest in the region. If not a full translation, then at least a precis should be provided.

If the article is online, then I would prefer a link to it rather than quoting the whole article verbatim, which takes up server space, download time and bandwidth. Furthermore, online translators are available for those whose Spanish is as limited as mine! ;)

Captain Stable,
Couldn't agree more! Could we have a similar ruling for Nordic Forum as well. There is a lot of Danish/Norwegian/Swedish/Finnish language postings and most are impossible to follow for the large number of interested visitors.
Blues:{

For a ruling on the Nordic Forum you'll have to deal with that Forum's Mods. Sorry! :O

BA - local languages are fine where we have a moderator fluent in the local language or languages.

This applies to the Nordic forum where our coverage is only missing Finnish - the guys understand that and are happy to work with it as it prompted them to get their own one running.

Regards from the Towers
Rob Lloyd

Hmmmmmmm :E

PJ - is that a request to volunteer as a mod? :E

Capt. Stable,

Send me a PM letting me know what is involved, and I'll let you know if I feel I have the maturity to be up to the job. :}

bu' whey.....is be arright tuh talk in de cummum natrul vernaccylurs uv de Carbeen too aw wuh or dem gin get likkout tuh

Irie! :ok:

Well, that is why we have Captain Stable. :}

Capt. Stable
 

If you don't speak or understand the romantic language of love.... then, do not even try to moderate this forum! and go somewhere else! thus, diversity makes the difference! or learn the language! :yuk:

Actually the edited post above was by me ... and I did understand what the poster was saying (thanks to a little knowledge and Babelfish) but that's not the point.

The rules are that Forums will converse in English, unless otherwise arranged and then only for Forums where there is a suitable native speaking Moderator. This is PPRuNe policy, take it or leave it.

If you don't want this Forum moderated or for it to continue in English, then the answer is an easy one, we can close it. But that would be a little bit of a knee jerk reaction.

Remember this jet4hire, you don't pay for the site and you don't take the legal responsibilities for anything that is said on it. If you did, then you could make the decisions on what is acceptable and what is not. The other option is to open your own site and have it in any language you want.

jet4hire

Whether you like it or not, I am the moderator of this forum. By popular consent, the language of this forum is Enlgish.

As for learning the language, I speak English, French, Italian, some Dutch, Russian, Arabic and Swahili.

What languages do you speak?

I am afraid that Jet4hire is only fluent in "language of love".

Quote:
"If you don't speak or understand the romantic language of love.... "

Such great capability may take one for great adventures in places like San Francisco....

Have Fun!
Blues;)

StandAlone, the reasons for the language of this forum being English is not simply so that I can understand it. We DO have moderators who can read Spanish. Unfortunately, they are busy with other forums and moderating takes a lot of work. In general, the Spanish speakers here can, in general, read and understand English. Many English speakers cannot read and understand Spanish. Therefore, English offers the opportunity for the largest number of PPRuNers to understand and contribute to this forum.

I propose a Salomonic decision... What about creating a Latin American forum in spanish and one Caribbean and Latin American in English? Call them Caribbean and Latin American (English Only) and other called Latin American (Spanish Only)?

Like this, everyone will be happy to write in his/her mother tonge, without feeling frustrated for not understanding the posts language... It is only fair that, being spanish the most widespread language in the region, people have the right to post in that language.

Aparently the spanish forum generally deals with Spain's matters.

Spanish Translation:

Propongo una decisión Salomónica... Que tal si creamos dos foros diferentes: un foro llamado Caribbean and Latin American (English Only) y otro llamado Latin American (Spanish Only)?

De esta manera, todo el mundo estará contento escribiendo en su lengua materna, sin sentirse frustrado por no entender el idioma de los "posts"... Me parece justo que, siendo el español el idioma más hablado en la region, la gente tenga derecho de expresarse libremente en el.

Aparentemente, el foro español trata generalmente de asuntos referidos a España.

MB, we are actually trying to reduce the number of forums on PPRuNe.

I don't think it would help matters to split Latin American issues across two forums with the duplication involved...

I know the present situation is not ideal, and it may be helped shortly by having a Spanish-speaking moderator if someone suitable can be persuaded, but that would not solve the problem of not everyone being able to understand all posts.

Discussions continue - watch this space! ;)

I propose Panama Jack and or Luis 8cd..........

Gracias!Migratory bird and standalone
 

Capt. Stable chill-out ! I don't pay for this forum but I have the right to express too!

I also speak french, Italian and spanish as well as the english language!

Guys! saludos por su cooperacion:cool:

babel
 

I tend to agree , that given the number of languages actually being used in the area (english , spanish , portuguese , french , dutch , creole ...) ... to simplify , and given the fact that the aviation language is Good ol'brittongue (much to my chagrine) we should stick with it .
bye,buenas tardes , au revoir ....and kwaheri .:{

Languages
 

Yip... gone through this on the Nordic Forum...

However I understood that Spanish Forum is not a forum just for Spain but rather a forum for Spanish speakers like Nordic forum that accomodates people speaking Nordic languages

JJ

While in theory, JJflyer, you may be right, in practice the Spanish Forum tends to be a discussion area on aviation affairs on the Iberian Peninsula.

I agree with panama, I still think that we should change this to spanish, it's a matter of quantity, not only that english is the aviation language, or what do you speak in the cockpits, apart from the check lists?, in everydays life, in latin american airlines?.

Coincido con panamá, creo que deber'a cambiarse a espaÑol, , tiene que ver con la cantidad de gente, noúnicamente con que el inglés es el idioma de la aviación, ¿o qué hablamos en las cabinas, aparte de las listas? en el trabajo diario, en las l'neas latinoamericanas?.

Cheers

Just my Peso's worth; You guys are pretty lucky, I've been banned for much lesser sin than hassling a moderator. Danny Fyne has far less patience than Captain Stable!:ugh:

Saludos amigos

Jet4hire writes:"diversity makes the difference! or learn the language! "

Certainly wish you would pass that on to all those illegals in the states who we have to print stuff in two languages for,so that they are not offended....
In Estados Unidos ( United States) the language is English.

I see all the Big Guns are watching this one, so I will be good.......

Polyglotitis
 

This forum is "Caribbean and Latin America". Languages in the region include Spanish, French, Dutch, Portuguese, Papiamento, a smattering of others and, oh yes, English.

Aviation and ATC by custom and ICAO regulation use English as the primary language.

Now, since all aviators know at least a bit of English, and everyone in this forum is involved in aviation, which language would work best?

I don't care about the rest of you, I'm voting for Papiamento.
:}

Want a laugh... Just look at Jet4Hire's profile.
What a donkey !!
:yuk: :yuk: :yuk:

Better yet, why not get yourself a Latin American Website and then you can speak all the hispaneese that you want........No interference from English speakers.... What a deal.

Re: The Language of this forum is English
 

A word for the Mods. If you're trying to reduce the number of foruns in this website, why not shutting this Latin America and Caribean down. Why? Just take a look at the inputs and take your conclusions. Nothing about aviation, only a sterile discussion about which languages we should use. This place is looking like the UN
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Not really a good excuse to have a Nordic forum with languages other than english and this one only in english... But , then again, I'm talking again about which language we should use.

And , by the way, Panama Jack, the Spanish Forum is for stuff in Spain , not in the Iberian Peninsula, otherwise it would be the Iberian Forum.:E

But, there are plenty of native speaking foruns to visit, so there's no need to be crying for this one.:yuk:

Check Six Krueger...

Re: The Language of this forum is English
 

Obviously, one less person impressed with my feeble attempt to sound poetic, worldly, intellectual (all of course to try to impress the ladies). :sad:

Mundo Cruel!

When will there be a russian forum then ? Thats what I want to know

:confused:

Aviation language
 

I haven't read all the replies to this thread, but I get the drift. I can't think of any reason why all forums shouldn't be in english - that's the common language for professional pilots!

It makes me sick to fly in countries where communication between pilots and ATC (except maybe GA) are in local tounge. I have told my IFALPA rep to address this at their posh conventions, instead of all the political BS that goes on just to please everyone. It IS A SERIOUS threat to safety!

Places like e.g. Spain, France,Greece and most of Latin America are perfect examples of countries showing a total disrespect for aviation safety - their ATC and most of their local pilots are unprofessional (more consumed with the status of their jobs than anything else)! To all of you that understand what I'm writing and feel irritated by my post - know that I am fluent in French and Spanish + a few more languages. I am pleased if I manage to offend anyone.

I have covered most of the world as a pilot, and I must give credit to ATC and pilots in the Middle East, Africa and Asia. Sometimes it is the countries with the least resources where you'll find the most proffesional team players in our profession.

I gather most readers will agree with me. To those of you not - don't reply, instead put your effort into a Berlitz course or other language training. Have a nice day!

If you have a look at the Spain forum, at least 25% of the posts are done in English and no spanish translation is included, we don´t ignore them and the mod doesn´t rub them out, we answer back in English....

How come Italian posts are permited? I don't understand them, and Italian is not the international aviation language! They are not in English! How about nordic ones?

Come on guys,
 

Come on guys, what's so hard about trying to cooperate? English is good. Spanish is good too. The simple fact is that the moderator MUST be able to understand what is put on this or any website for both legal and security reasons. It is very reasonable to require translations for all Spanish posts even though English is a second language for most Latin Americans. All of the Spanish speaking pilots I have worked with are most happy to insure that I understand what they are telling me as they know my limited grasp of their language can cause misunderstandings. After all, understanding is the goal of all communication. It would be great if one of the bi-lingual (English and Spanish) speaking readers volunteer as a moderator, but even then, it would still be best to have the translation as many of the readers still would not know what was being said.