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Copa - American Flyers
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Another scummy "buy-a-job" program appealing to European rich-kids (who just want to fly) at an airline that is too cheap to want to pay for required training of pilots and an US aviation school of dubious reputation posting beautiful pictures of big shiny jets and cashing in big coin.
A summary of all that is bad in aviation.
Another scummy "buy-a-job" program appealing to European rich-kids (who just want to fly) at an airline that is too cheap to want to pay for required training of pilots and an US aviation school of dubious reputation posting beautiful pictures of big shiny jets and cashing in big coin.
A summary of all that is bad in aviation.
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There is no talk of price on the website, is it sponsored or "pay for rating and job" a la ryanair. Kind of sad its being made available to Europeans too- its not at all a reciprocal type of thing .
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!Claro que no! just take your time if your still working with your ratings, dont worry they are many other ways. And Copa will always be there. There's no reason people should pay $$$$$ just to sit left seat in a big jet.
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This is a right seat, not a left seat job. Left seat jobs at COPA are being offered with a good salary packet because COPA pilots are jumping ship, fed up with low pay and poor management over the years. Experienced expats are being brought in attracted by decent packages (or the planes stay parked).
It is the right seat jobs going to lower-time pilots, who enhance their qualifications by willing to pay $41,500 USD-- that is the going rate quoted right off the American Flyers website.
COPA Airlines is not a low-cost carrier (just check out the fares sometime). It is a traditional, legacy carrier with a low-cost structure-- thanks to the low cost of labor in Central America. This is just a matter of more greed-- "maybe we can get pilots who would love to say they work for a major airline to pay for all their training and pay them a base salary of $600 a month! What a great idea!"
It is the right seat jobs going to lower-time pilots, who enhance their qualifications by willing to pay $41,500 USD-- that is the going rate quoted right off the American Flyers website.
COPA Airlines is not a low-cost carrier (just check out the fares sometime). It is a traditional, legacy carrier with a low-cost structure-- thanks to the low cost of labor in Central America. This is just a matter of more greed-- "maybe we can get pilots who would love to say they work for a major airline to pay for all their training and pay them a base salary of $600 a month! What a great idea!"
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De lo que entiendo,
You pay $41.5K, they train you and pay you $600/mo for the first 6 mo. You sign a contract for 3 years, after you get a $10K"rebate" when you terminate the contract? Then off you go? Or can you stay on permanently?
You pay $41.5K, they train you and pay you $600/mo for the first 6 mo. You sign a contract for 3 years, after you get a $10K"rebate" when you terminate the contract? Then off you go? Or can you stay on permanently?
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On those kinds of terms you'd want to stay on permanently? 
Panamanian pilots are leaving for Asia because Copa's T's & C's suck. European pilots are coming to Copa because . . .
Panamanian pilots are leaving for Asia because Copa's T's & C's suck. European pilots are coming to Copa because . . .
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Hey Jack
Pero dime algo....If i want to go there, with lots of jet time, for whom they go for?...me or the rich kid from europe? What are my chances?? Because I've been thinking about Copa for a long time, and would like to give it shot....Just in case, 'cause things here in Chavezuela aren't looking that great.
Salud!
Pero dime algo....If i want to go there, with lots of jet time, for whom they go for?...me or the rich kid from europe? What are my chances?? Because I've been thinking about Copa for a long time, and would like to give it shot....Just in case, 'cause things here in Chavezuela aren't looking that great.
Salud!
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The discussion seems to be even more animated on the Spanish Forum (a place where Latin American aviation is rarely ever discussed).
I got a chuckle out of the one poster's comments "Little by little, the Panamanians are getting back what the Conquistadors took away."
I got a chuckle out of the one poster's comments "Little by little, the Panamanians are getting back what the Conquistadors took away."
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Let me give you a very clear and concise answer....BECAUSE THERE ARE NO JOBS HERE!!!
European pilots are coming to Copa because . . .
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Bueno, for the first time ever in copa a pilot has to pay to work !!!!!
Lets see how strong are those rich boys to live in Panama and how skillfull they are ....... good luck
Lets see how strong are those rich boys to live in Panama and how skillfull they are ....... good luck
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American Flyer's has one of the worst reputations of any flight school in the US, at my old flight school we fired an instructor from that school, the guy was terrible, and he had all of his instructor ratings, he even joked about how he got them in a couple of weeks and some of his students new more than him. And this is the kind of training partner Copa chooses? I wouldn't go to that school to get a BFR!
