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Need info/advice Ferry from US to South America

Old 27th Mar 2008, 02:16
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Need info/advice Ferry from US to South America

Hello all,

I am tyring to gather inof as the best way to due this. There is a chance we may be moving a machine from the US to South America. I have flown in and through Mexcio so I am familair with how to do the Mexcio part of the journey. My questions have to due with Central Amercia.

the range is 250-270nm and we need Jet A

Is it possible to overfly Guatemala or El Slavador with out landing. If possible I would like to leave Mexcio MMTP and go direct to San Salvador MSLP.

Any useful hints about crossing borders, specail flight plans etc? How far inadvnce do I need to file a flight plan, or request permisson to overfly?
From El Salvador I was thinking Manauga, Liberia, Sanjose, Boca Del toro, Panama, then down the west coast of Columbia, Ecuador and Peru.

Any help would be great


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Yes, it is entirely possible to overfly any or all of the Central American countries (if you had the range to do so). Since you are a professional pilot and it is a part of your doing business, I recommend you get a flight planning service to handle the overflight and landing permissions. Could end up saving headache and problems in the end. A planning service should also be able to give you an idea of the cost of Jet A and landing fees at different places and plan you accordingly.

For example in the case of Nicaragua, and assuming your flight is a private flight (and not classified as offical or government), you can request landing permission or overflight of Nicaraguan airspace at least 24 hours before the flight. I am sending you the information out of the AIP Nicaragua (which is only published in Spanish) to give you an idea of what you are getting yourself into and to give you an idea on where a planning company can make your life considerably easier for this one-off trip:

Source: AIP Nicaragua (GEN 1.2-3 30 Ago 2007) and other sources


El propietario de cualquier aeronave que desee aterrizar en Nicaragua, en tránsito; o haciendo escala técnica deberá enviar su correspondiente solicitud con 24 horas de anticipación a las Oficinas de la Dirección de Aeronavegación en el Instituto Nicaragüense de Aeronáutica Civil durante los días hábiles laborales de Lunes a Viernes de 8:00am (1400 UTC) a 5:00pm (2300UTC) al fax 505-276-8588, dirección AFS MNMGYAYX, e-mail [email protected] (o [email protected]). Los días sábado y domingo deberá enviar su solicitud a la Oficina de Notificación Aeronáutica (ONA) en el Aeropuerto Internacional Augusto César Sandino AFS MNMGYOYX, al Telefax (505) 233-1765.

Los aeródromos internacionales en Nicaragua son el Aeropuerto Internacional Augusto César Sandino en Managua (MNMG), el Aeropuerto de Bluefields (MNBL), y el Aeropuerto de Puerto Cabezas (MNPC). Combustible solo esta disponible en el Aeropuerto Internacional Augusto César Sandino en Managua (MNMG) (Jet y Avgas).

Las solicitudes de los vuelos especiales con aterrizaje o despegue de aeródromos domésticos, deberán ser previamente coordinadas por el Operador con las autoridades de Migración, Aduana, y Policía Nacional, para ser autorizadas por la Dirección del Instituto Nicaragüense de Aeronáutica Civil.

Las aeronaves con matricula centroamericana y de Belice, o de matrícula extranjera basificadas en estos Estados en vuelos privados, de recreo, escala técnica, o negocios que deseen volar hacia Nicaragua, deberán enviar su solicitud y plan de vuelo con anticipación suficiente para que las autoridades correspondientes la reciban como mínimo una hora antes de la llegada de la aeronave. El aterrizaje o despegue debe llevarse a cabo en un aeródromo internacional previamente designado, donde deberán presentar copia de Plan de Vuelo y de la solicitud en la Oficina AIS/ARO respectiva.

Las solicitudes enviadas no deberán esperar respuesta, debiendo presentar a su arribo copia de la solicitud. Los datos que deben contener las solicitudes son los siguientes:

1. Matricula de la Aeronave
2. Tipo de ACFT y su ACN
3. Procedencia y Destino
4. Hora Estimada de Llegada
5. Motivo de Vuelo
6. Nombre de la Empresa
7. Nombre de la Tripulación
8. Altitud o Nivel de Vuelo
9. Ruta de Vuelo
10. Hora Estimada de Salida
11. Documentos de la Aeronave
12. Numero de Teléfono y Fax

Los vuelos Oficiales o de Estado podrán aterrizar y/o sobrevolar nuestro territorio cuando obtuvieran un PERMISO ESPECIAL del Instituto Nicaragüense de Aeronáutica Civil solicitando a través del Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores con no menos de 72 horas de antelación.
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Old 5th Apr 2008, 07:57
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Ferrying a chopper?

I have ferried a Bell 412 from US to Buenos Aires. My recommendation is: get extra tanks and do the longest possible legs... Take off at max weight (+15%) every time...
What machine is it?
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Hey fellow, do everything with the help of a handler. They're not really required but since you're not familiar with the requirements, a handler will be helpful. And they are really pros.
Contact UVair. They do everything for you.
Uvair contact in EL Salvador is Milton Matinez. He can do all Central America for you.
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Old 14th Apr 2008, 02:10
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I would suggest you avoid crossing Costa Rica from Liberia to San Jose to Bocas del Toro. You would have to be very familiar with the mountain passes.

Stick to the Pacific coast of Central America:

--San Jose de Guatemala (not Guatemala City)
--San Salvador (International airport right at the coast)
--David, Panama
--Panama City

PM me for any help.
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